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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2014 15:21:52 GMT -5
A recent study on data from a dating app found all women except black women were most drawn to white men, and men of all races (with one notable exception) prefer Asian women. Of the 2.4 million heterosexual interactions researchers reviewed, the findings show: 1. Black men and women get the lowest response rates to their messages. 2. All women except black women are most drawn to white men, and men of all races (with one notable exception) prefer Asian women.
www.npr.org/blogs/codeswitch/2013/11/30/247530095/are-you-interested-dating-odds-favor-white-men-asian-womenNote that Black males have the lowest response rate among White, Asian and Latino women.
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Post by truthteacher2007 on Jun 12, 2014 15:36:29 GMT -5
A recent study on data from a dating app found all women except black women were most drawn to white men, and men of all races (with one notable exception) prefer Asian women. Of the 2.4 million heterosexual interactions researchers reviewed, the findings show: 1. Black men and women get the lowest response rates to their messages. 2. All women except black women are most drawn to white men, and men of all races (with one notable exception) prefer Asian women.
www.npr.org/blogs/codeswitch/2013/11/30/247530095/are-you-interested-dating-odds-favor-white-men-asian-womenNote that Black males have the lowest response rate among White, Asian and Latino women. Considering the amount of emotionally disturbed people who frequent those type of sites, THANK GOD!
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Post by truthteacher2007 on Jun 12, 2014 15:43:22 GMT -5
Also, note how few men are interested in white women........
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2014 19:50:06 GMT -5
Also, note how few men are interested in white women........ They come out average. If you though look at the bottom right box, you see black women are ranked last by Asian, Latino, White and Black men. Black men are the only race who rank their own females bottom. This doesn't occur in any other race.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2014 20:12:57 GMT -5
A recent study on data from a dating app found all women except black women were most drawn to white men, and men of all races (with one notable exception) prefer Asian women. Of the 2.4 million heterosexual interactions researchers reviewed, the findings show: 1. Black men and women get the lowest response rates to their messages. 2. All women except black women are most drawn to white men, and men of all races (with one notable exception) prefer Asian women.
www.npr.org/blogs/codeswitch/2013/11/30/247530095/are-you-interested-dating-odds-favor-white-men-asian-womenNote that Black males have the lowest response rate among White, Asian and Latino women. Considering the amount of emotionally disturbed people who frequent those type of sites, THANK GOD! True, but the sample size was well over 2 million people (not a hundred or a thousand like most others). This study is well-representative of each social race group by highest response rate (White, Black, Asian, Latino). These people actually signed up listing their ethnicity or race and went directly searching/responding for others. Clearly certain recurrent preferences or patterns emerge when it comes what (most) males/females are attracted to.
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Post by truthteacher2007 on Jun 12, 2014 22:54:10 GMT -5
Considering the amount of emotionally disturbed people who frequent those type of sites, THANK GOD! True, but the sample size was well over 2 million people (not a hundred or a thousand like most others). This study is well-representative of each social race group by highest response rate (White, Black, Asian, Latino). These people actually signed up listing their ethnicity or race and went directly searching/responding for others. Clearly certain recurrent preferences or patterns emerge when it comes what (most) males/females are attracted to. I guess they didn't take any surveys from white women visiting Montego Bay or the Dominican Republic........ Wonder what scores they would get if they checked for white men who have an obcession for black men. I know at least one who just can't get enough of them......
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Post by zarahan on Jun 13, 2014 10:15:15 GMT -5
The stats are nothing unusual. Men on the AVERAGE who are not seemingly affluent, and who cannot give women higher social prestige and social status, will tend to generate less responses. The white PUA sphere talks about this phenomenon all the time -the so-called "hypergamy" of women. Bitter boy Elliot Rodgers the latest white shooter was supposedly affected by this. This is a cross-racial fact of life. If all prejudice or race preference disappeared overnight,the response rates would not budge that much since class and wealth or perceptions of wealth would remain as barriers.
The surprise here actually is that given they are operating with all the cards stacked against them- less wealth, less social prestige, etc etc.. black men are not doing that badly. But even this may not be a surprise. Most black men can always land a white, Asian or Hispanic woman for a bed partner- ain't difficult at all, and no big deal either. Ain't no flags to run up on that score. And black men with stronger prestige- the campus jocks, the athletes, the entertainers, the solid military guys, the solid corporate or government job guys, and these days the stable young dudes on campus have even better prospects.
As regards black women rankings, the patterns are easy to see. Black men on many online sites are using them to explore new avenues and tastes that they would not ordinarily meet down at the local black church or club etc. They are not low-ranking black women- that's over-dramatic nonsense. Rather they are using the online forums to broaden their pool of eligible bed partners, friendships or contacts. That's all. Noting unusual or dramatic. Ain't no deep psychological jijutsu going on. They are just doing what people do online- they use such venues to make contacts far and wide that they would not ordinarily make in their regular lives or associations. What's the point of going online if you just want to meet people down at the local church or club? Black men are no different than others on this score.
Also on black women- some points to consider:
1-- There is the blunt reality of female competition. Black women know they face stiff competition for the most eligible men in the IR market- Asian Hispanic and white who are all scouring the market. If all prejudice disappeared overnight the stats would not budge much because as far as IR white women always have a better chance with white men for example. Most white guys would be snapped up anyway by white women, race or no race due to class, background, proximity, social links, networks etc. Given the competitive marketplace, many black women are understandably not impressed by "alternative race" potentials out there. Why bother if the alternative leftovers are not that hot to begin with?
2-- Assorted people sho keep dissin black women fail to realize that the "crisis" in non-dating black women, just like with unmarried white women, affects the bottom 70% of the population most. Those black women who are most attractive- in terms of youth and/or looks, and less "baggage" seldom have serious problems landing a man. Those factors: youth, shape, height etc are important. It is not merely something like fair skin, as those unfamiliar with the black community imagine. Youth for example is a factor applying to all women. Late-30 somethings asserting that they are so good looking but they cant find a man, are not in their fertile prime and do not have the prospects f a younger woman. That's the blunt reality.
3-- baggage is another factor. The women having trouble in the marriage or dating market (primarily) are those who are hindered by age, number of children and previous marital status, and yes, looks (including weight). Let's be blunt- a chunky 30-something/40-something single mother or divorcee with a string of kids is not going to fare well on the marriage market, or even dating market for the MOST DESIRABLE MEN, whether you be black or white. Most white men are not hurriedly beating down any doors to get to white females fitting the above description EITHER.
In short, so called "black woman problems" may not at all be primarily a function of being black. There are numerous other factors bearing on the issue. If you are an attractive, tall, shapely, YOUNG black woman, you will do relatively well, even across racial markets, compared to a chunky 30/40 something with kids or other baggage.
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Post by rivertemz on Jun 13, 2014 14:32:15 GMT -5
This is sad, I saw these stats on tyt news.
We continue to perpetuate the dating stigmas, I personally believe online dating is a myth when it comes to racial attributes. First let's be specific, who are the type of men and women that go on dating sites? especially black men and women that I've thought would prefer interacting on a face to face level rather than an online dating site.
I personally would only respond to black women, since that's my preference if I went on dating sites. So if I was seeking a woman on a dating site, I'm in luck compared to other non-white males, I would most likely get a response from a female of my preference. But overall black men fall in the stats of least likely to responding to black women ?? that's a shame...that's embarrassing as a black man.
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Post by zarahan on Jun 14, 2014 19:54:55 GMT -5
I would have to agree with you, that despite all the drama surrounding IR relationships, black women essentially have a lock on the long-term market. In the US white women/other ethnicities are not exactly beating down the doors to get to the ordinary black guy. Yes there are exceptions, but the general rule is that there is no big market rush for black men, outside those who can add value, prestige or resources to other women- athletes or entertainers are obvious candidates but so are stable, solid military and corporate/govt guys without a lot of baggage, who have not aged out. But things in the UK might be different, where there is a lot more IR dating I understand. This more or less true? And is there a premium on those who can add value?
I would have to partially disagree on black men responding to black women. Some yes I am sure are laggard, but then again, there is a generic response problem. The typical guy on these sites has about 90-95% of his emails deleted upon arrival, with no response from the female he sent it to. So some guys just follow suit and don't respond to contacts. Another problem I think is unrealistic expectations many men have of dating sites- where there seems to be all these choices and "hot babes" initially, but most of them will simply delete your email "Opener." That lack of realism leads to some men ignoring good female prospects who do not fit the unrealistic expectations. Many men think they can do better, particularly in the looks dept, and get a dose of blunt reality as time goes on. That reality is that the most attractive women are swamped with attention, from much better prospects than you. Unrealistic expectations I think is a generic male problem rather than a black man problem per se.
And as far as responses TO black men- I am not so sure. You will always get responses from "last resort" types, but the most desirable, even medium range desirable black women are in no hurry responding to black men. Again, unless you have height, wealth/resources and/or can add to the black female's social prestige, particularly those who think they are good looking- the ordinary black guy will not receive the time of day.
Yea there is the flip side- some women are just as superficial these days as far as things like looks. For example many women have a height requirement, and will simply ignore good prospects because they are shorter or of equal height- then turn around and complain about lack of prospects. I told a woman once (she was bout 5'6)-, you just eliminated about 40% of the eligible male pool with your height requirement- what the hell you complaining about? Your own choices are shaping the situation. This is not simply a male observation. Female author, Terry MacMillian, in her book aimed towards women- WHY YOU ARE NOT MARRIED YET- points out that female superficiality is one of the main factors hindering them having satisfying relationships. So while there certainly black male disgraces out there, I can't totally fault the brothas, given the situation on these sites.
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Post by anansi on Jun 15, 2014 1:50:53 GMT -5
First off this is almost certainly U.S specific rather than universal,I should know I as I am well traveled in some areas of the world the sisters especially from the states got it good in some places,but the Brothers do even better,whether for a long term up hook-up or a one nite stand,alot of that is chocked-up to exoticism off-course, a little different than a date and seedier to boot is ranking of sex workers in Dubai by the amount men is willing to dish-out, least paid for their services are Asian women who make about $150~200 U.S followed by Eastern European women and African women,who can fetch-up to $500 U.S.D per John while Arab women average $1000, saw this on a vid about prostitution in Dubai. I could regale you with sailors stories...but I won't.
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Post by rivertemz on Jun 15, 2014 11:53:49 GMT -5
^I completely agree, I keep on forgetting it's a US/national statistic rather than a global phenomenon, as I live in Europe I'm aware that things are not completely the same socially, especially for the ethnic demographics and the stigmas places on specific groups. It's not the same and the differences are not as observed as they are in the US, so im quick to absorb these US stats as in sync with Non-American standards.
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Post by truthteacher2007 on Jun 15, 2014 15:41:38 GMT -5
First off this is almost certainly U.S specific rather than universal,I should know I as I am well traveled in some areas of the world the sisters especially from the states got it good in some places,but the Brothers do even better,whether for a long term up hook-up or a one nite stand,alot of that is chocked-up to exoticism off-course, a little different than a date and seedier to boot is ranking of sex workers in Dubai by the amount men is willing to dish-out, least paid for their services are Asian women who make about $150~200 U.S followed by Eastern European women and African women,who can fetch-up to $500 U.S.D per John while Arab women average $1000, saw this on a vid about prostitution in Dubai. I could regale you with sailors stories...but I won't. I'm in the wrong business! Anansi, you want to open up a rent a rasta business with me? We'll make the boared British house wives our target demographic!
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Post by rivertemz on Jun 15, 2014 17:57:23 GMT -5
Lol it's true, like for example Black American men & women can get people easily falling for them in France and the UK. It's not that rare to come across a White american on holiday over here, but it's more rare to see a Black American visiting UK, there's a lot more appeal, just speak and the games over.
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Post by truthteacher2007 on Jun 15, 2014 22:54:03 GMT -5
Lol it's true, like for example Black American men & women can get people easily falling for them in France and the UK. It's not that rare to come across a White american on holiday over here, but it's more rare to see a Black American visiting UK, there's a lot more appeal, just speak and the games over. I don't know how things are now, but as recent as the 80's black men were all the rage in Germany. Women would go nuts for a black man. All my friends who were in the military told me that when they were stationed in Germany they had to beat the women off with a stick. When several people unknown gto each other tell you the same thing, there has to be truth to it.
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Post by anansi on Jun 15, 2014 23:55:39 GMT -5
Lol it's true, like for example Black American men & women can get people easily falling for them in France and the UK. It's not that rare to come across a White american on holiday over here, but it's more rare to see a Black American visiting UK, there's a lot more appeal, just speak and the games over. I don't know how things are now, but as recent as the 80's black men were all the rage in Germany. Women would go nuts for a black man. All my friends who were in the military told me that when they were stationed in Germany they had to beat the women off with a stick. When several people unknown gto each other tell you the same thing, there has to be truth to it. Ditto for Australia especially if you are an AA.
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