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Post by djoser-xyyman on Jan 10, 2015 22:43:51 GMT -5
Sometimes we cannot see the forest for the trees. After reading this geographical description it hit me like a thunder-bolt. The Arabian Peninsular is geographically structured Identical to the African mainland. My mantra has been “Arabia is an extension of Africa”. …genetically. Undoubtedly that is the case. After reading this authors break down I finally realize the geography should also be included.
Many genetic researchers have concluded Southern Arabia has always been occupied African Bantu-like Peoples since pre-history. African genetic material in Arabia has nothing to do with “slaves”. As usual it is mis-direction and deception by Europeans. Trying to explain away the surprising presence(to them) of Bantu like people in Eurasia-Arabia. Only the ignorant will fall for it.
Here is the truth.
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Post by djoser-xyyman on Jan 10, 2015 22:44:36 GMT -5
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Pleistocene-Holocene Boundary in Southern Arabia From the Perspective of Human mtDNA Variation –
Abdulrahim Al-A (Luı´sa Pereira, Pedro Soares,4 and Viktor Cerny´ 7, - The big dogs) - 2012
Southern Arabia is a region that is today isolated from the rest of the Arabian Peninsula by the inhospitable Rub’ al Khali desert to the north and the Wahiba Sands to the east. Recent archaeological discoveries in Oman (Rose et al., 2011) and Sharjah, United Arab Emirates (Armitage et al., 2011) indicate that at least two distinct, African DERIVED Middle Stone Age populations moved into southern Arabia during Marine Isotope Stage 5 (MIS 5). In the United Arab Emirates, the site of Jebel Faya (Armitage et al., 2011) is thought to represent an early modern human expansion from sub-Saharan Africa at the beginning of the Last Interglacial, during MIS 5e some 130-120 ka (Kukla et al., 2002; Parker, 2009). Evidence for a second, later expansion (Rose et al., 2011) has been identified in southwestern Oman as the Dhofar Nubian Complex, which is linked to a population spread from Northeast Africa during MIS 5c some 110–100 ka. During wet periods, hunter-gatherer occupation penetrated deeply into the Arabian Peninsula, indicated by a stratified archaeological deposit found along a relict lakeshore in the Nefud Desert, dated to 75 ka (Petraglia et al., 2011). Which human species produced these Middle Stone Age tools in Arabia is still a matter of question, as no skeletal remains have yet been found with any of the Arabian assemblages. At the site of Taramsa 1 in Egypt, a modern human child was found associated with a Nubian Complex assemblage, suggesting that at
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Southern Arabia sub Saharan Africa is a region that is today isolated from the rest of the Arabian Peninsula rest of North Africaby the inhospitable Rub’ al Khali desert Sahara desert to the north and the Wahiba Sands to the east. Recent archaeological discoveries in Oman (Rose et al., 2011) and Sharjah, United Arab Emirates (Armitage et al., 2011) indicate that at least two distinct, African DERIVED Middle Stone Age populations moved into southern Arabia during Marine Isotope Stage 5 (MIS 5). In the United Arab Emirates, the site of Jebel Faya (Armitage et al., 2011) is thought to represent an early modern human expansion from sub-Saharan Africa at the beginning of the Last Interglacial, during MIS 5e some 130-120 ka (Kukla et al., 2002; Parker, 2009). Evidence for a second, later expansion (Rose et al., 2011) has been identified in southwestern Oman as the Dhofar Nubian Complex, which is linked to a population spread from Northeast Africa during MIS 5c some 110–100 ka. During wet periods, hunter-gatherer occupation penetrated deeply into the Arabian Peninsula, indicated by a stratified archaeological deposit found along a relict lakeshore in the Nefud Desert, dated to 75 ka (Petraglia et al., 2011). Which human species produced these Middle Stone Age tools in Arabia is still a matter of question, as no skeletal remains have yet been found with any of the Arabian assemblages. At the site of Taramsa 1 in Egypt, a modern human child was found associated with a Nubian Complex assemblage, suggesting that at
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It is much more difficult to assess if these clades moved from the Near East into the Arabia or vice-versa. We checked the overall diversity of each clade in both regions. Haplogroup R2 has substantially higher diversity in the Near East compared with the Arabian Penin-sula, when considering mean number of pairwise differences p (2.364 against 1.371) and gene diversity (or heterozygosity) H (0.860 against 0.687). This suggests that R2 probably had an origin in the Near East, but further complete sequences from that region are needed to more properly address that question. The very frequent R0a also showed higher diversity in the Near East for p and H (3.083 and 0.944, respectively) when compared with
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Recently, pre-Neolithic sites dating between 13 and 8 ka have been found in the Yemeni Highlands (Fedele, 2009), Dhofar (Rose and Usik, 2009), and United Arab Emirates (Uerpmann et al., 2009), all of which bear lithic technologies that are clearly unrelated to the Levantine PPNB. In Dhofar and Yemen, these findings have been interpreted as suggesting some degree of indigenous human occupation in southern Arabia reaching at least back to the Terminal Pleistocene.
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Post by djoser-xyyman on Jan 10, 2015 22:51:43 GMT -5
pictures!!!  Southern Arabia is a region that is today isolated from the rest of the Arabian Peninsula by the inhospitable Rub’ al Khali desert to the north and the Wahiba Sands to the east. Recent archaeological discoveries in Oman (Rose et al., 2011) and Sharjah, United Arab Emirates (Armitage et al., 2011) indicate that at least two distinct, African DERIVED Middle Stone Age populations moved into southern Arabia during Marine Isotope Stage 5 (MIS 5). In the United Arab Emirates, the site of Jebel Dhofar and Yemen, these findings have been interpreted as suggesting some degree of indigenous human occupation in southern Arabia reaching at least back to the Terminal Pleistocene. |
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Post by Tukuler al~Takruri on Jan 11, 2015 15:00:52 GMT -5
Sometimes we cannot see the forest for the trees. After reading this geographical description it hit me like a thunder-bolt. The Arabian Peninsular is geographically structured Identical to the African mainland. My mantra has been “Arabia is an extension of Africa”. …genetically. Undoubtedly that is the case. After reading this authors break down I finally realize the geography should also be included. Many genetic researchers have concluded Southern Arabia has always been occupied African Bantu-like Peoples since pre-history. African genetic material in Arabia has nothing to do with “slaves”. As usual it is mis-direction and deception by Europeans. Trying to explain away the surprising presence(to them) of Bantu like people in Eurasia-Arabia. Only the ignorant will fall for it. Here is the truth. It may have just hit you like some bolt out of the blue but I learned it from GK Osei decades ago. There have been numerous posts on plate tectonics, late Pleistocene and Holocene climate and fauna on the parent site, if not here, backing the Levant-Iraq-Arabian Peninsula as a part of geological Africa. You were there at the parent site for 7 or 8 years. How could you have missed them? Or was it, that with your higher consciousness just you refused to believe us blacks saying it and balked until Simon Says so? Why is it each black researcher starts at square one ignoring all the other previous black researchers? This is why other peoples advance, because they build up on what went before instead of each generation employing mode one mod one ego methodology. It may be distasteful to you but you cannot deny that TransIndian Ocean Slave Trade is responsible for a great part of the African genetics of Yemen, Oman, and Saudi. |
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Post by djoser-xyyman on Jan 11, 2015 18:20:04 GMT -5
E1b1a and MtDNA L* is indigenous to Southern Arabia/Yemen. It is part of "sub-sahara" Africa. Just as the Sahara desert is a minor barrier between North and south Africa. The same exist between North And SOuth Arabia with the Arabian desert  Also Mt DNA is indigenous to North Africa and Northern Arabia. This is not rocket science. pictures!!! Southern Arabia is a region that is today isolated from the rest of the Arabian Peninsula by the inhospitable Rub’ al Khali desert to the north and the Wahiba Sands to the east. Recent archaeological discoveries in Oman (Rose et al., 2011) and Sharjah, United Arab Emirates (Armitage et al., 2011) indicate that at least two distinct, African DERIVED Middle Stone Age populations moved into southern Arabia during Marine Isotope Stage 5 (MIS 5). In the United Arab Emirates, the site of Jebel Dhofar and Yemen, these findings have been interpreted as suggesting some degree of indigenous human occupation in southern Arabia reaching at least back to the Terminal Pleistocene. |
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Post by snakepit on Jan 29, 2015 23:17:39 GMT -5
Sometimes we cannot see the forest for the trees. After reading this geographical description it hit me like a thunder-bolt. The Arabian Peninsular is geographically structured Identical to the African mainland. My mantra has been “Arabia is an extension of Africa”. …genetically. Undoubtedly that is the case. After reading this authors break down I finally realize the geography should also be included. Many genetic researchers have concluded Southern Arabia has always been occupied African Bantu-like Peoples since pre-history. African genetic material in Arabia has nothing to do with “slaves”. As usual it is mis-direction and deception by Europeans. Trying to explain away the surprising presence(to them) of Bantu like people in Eurasia-Arabia. Only the ignorant will fall for it. Here is the truth. You're on to something! The Lemba of Zimbabwe claim that they came from Yemen to the horn (by boat, I presume! lol) and migrated southwards from there. |
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Post by kaskata on Jan 30, 2015 19:00:27 GMT -5
"The Lemba of Zimbabwe claim that they came from Yemen to the horn". This has indeed been verified by different researchers and they have all come to the same results. The high priests of the Lemba people come from the same line as the Cohen (high priests in Israel) blood line. A lot of the Eastern African customs are similar to that region's old customs, but you hardly hear scholars acknowledge that publicly. I really find it amazing that people believe African looking people can reach places like Australia, but some how failed to reach the "Middle East".
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Post by anastasiaescrava on Feb 2, 2015 1:36:50 GMT -5
This along with Dana's info pretty much seals the deal.
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Post by snakepit on Feb 6, 2015 18:36:34 GMT -5
"The Lemba of Zimbabwe claim that they came from Yemen to the horn". This has indeed been verified by different researchers and they have all come to the same results. The high priests of the Lemba people come from the same line as the Cohen (high priests in Israel) blood line. A lot of the Eastern African customs are similar to that region's old customs, but you hardly hear scholars acknowledge that publicly. I really find it amazing that people believe African looking people can reach places like Australia, but some how failed to reach the "Middle East". I think the whole CMH thing is a bit too speculative. If we're going to assume that the story is correct, then Lea became the mother of Dinah, Issachar, Levi, Zebulon, Judah, Simeon & Reuben. That means that the Levites (who came from the loins of Levi) shouldn't be any different than their other brethren, since they all shared the same mother and father. Besides, it's not like there's been any tests of actual Hebrews of the old, so how on earth would people know who's who? |
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