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Post by Tukuler al~Takruri on Mar 20, 2016 3:58:28 GMT -5
Is there no negotiating with OldScroll et alias. His points bear discussion even though his presentation is trollish. Can he be coaxed from trolling and spared from the ban? Black-figured Caeretan hydria colour men in black, red, and white. A woolly haired Herakles -- both parents Alcmene and Amphitron(sp?) of Egyptian ancestry -- subdues several men. They are coloured white. Clockwise: Herakles' black * left hand grasps a white ankle * left foot tramples a white neck * right foot crushes a white chest * right arm chokes a white throat.  To the left at top and bottom are two more men kneeling coloured in white. All Herakles' opponents are presumed Egyptian. |
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Post by samuel on Mar 22, 2016 17:39:36 GMT -5
How do we even know that was the real word that was used in "The Histories" μελενκροες? I googled it and the first thing that popped up was the controversy over it being used for black or white in ancient Egytptian. I know a little Greek so. I have a basic understanding of this.
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Post by Tukuler al~Takruri on Mar 22, 2016 21:40:18 GMT -5
Since this is a non-polemic lingual post I wish it were in the other thread but anyway your orthography doesn't match the ancient Greek per LSJ etc. The n in melanchroes is a gamma not a nu. The ch is not kappa. It is chi. I've wondered for days now about the n. I no longer have a Greek Orthodox father I can ask about ancient Greek spelling or translation. I don't know about any rule where gamma's used to transcribe the n sound but can only compare it to English gn as in gnostic. I want to know lingual fact about scripting g for the sound of n. Apparently it has something to do with scripting the nasal velar.  How do we even know that was the real word that was used in "The Histories" μελενκροες? I googled it and the first thing that popped up was the controversy over it being used for black or white in ancient Egytptian. I know a little Greek so. I have a basic understanding of this. |
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Post by samuel on Mar 22, 2016 21:42:10 GMT -5
I didn't say I spoke it well hehe. I'm just learning it. Just showing off a little hahaha. But seriously. Look up melencroes. You will find it next to ancient Egyptian race controversy and nothing else.
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Post by samuel on Mar 22, 2016 21:53:10 GMT -5
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Post by obsidian71 on Mar 23, 2016 1:15:11 GMT -5
Typical troll response. The constant "afrocentric" claims and please to look at Melanchroes sans context give his motives away. The word by itself provides little insight but in Histories Herodotus is making a direct connection between the skin of Egyptians and Colchians and Ethiopians. He even states this isn't that much of a deal but the fact that Colchians practiced circumcision led credence to the belief that they were originally Egyptians.
I live by Indians that from a distance look indistinguishable from blacks until you get close enough to see their facial features. The Greeks were no different..they saw dark skinned people of all types and saw the variety of facial features and wrote about it.
Hate to see people get the Ban Hammer but spamming boards with youtube level commentary doesn't cut muster on many sites.
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