Cities Built by Africans Part III

[fromnothing]

Hello everyone. I know that my first few posts on this site have caused a needlessly large amount of drama and I do apologize for that. I joined this site with good intentions and good intentions only. I want to teach people everything I know but at the same time, I also seek knowledge in the areas that I lack it. I am a proud Africanist, nothing more and nothing less. Anyway Here is part III to my series and I hope you enjoy (don't be mislead by the title, it's merely clickbait)



If you haven't seen the first and second parts yet, you can find them below:

[anansi]

Sorry Been glued to the fallout of the politics of the day, if the city of Gedi was abandoned about the 17th century It maybe because they were driven out, I have no absolute proof of this, but it would put us in the era of the massive Zimba attacks on the coastal cities,it was ferocious so much so it involved cannibalism.

An interesting four way conflict between the coastal Swahili the Portuguese the Turks and an inland very powerful state called the Malawi empire, who control another people called the Zimba as shock troops..more shocking than most shock troops. because they were reported to be cannibals.

I became aware of the Zimba yrs ago after read one of Dr Clarks books. and I knew they sacked the cities of the coast and eat some of the inhabitants but did not know the reasons why.

Here now is the why they were not some random group of un-controllable barbarians they were in fact a part of the military apparatus of a powerful inland state who could unleashed them at will.

Read more: egyptsearchreloaded.proboards.com/thread/394#ixzz4Pgu9tVNF
klik for more^

Indian Imitations of Aksumite Coins
egyptsearchreloaded.proboards.com/thread/1408/indian-imitations-aksumite-coins
Somewhat related is the above I think you will find it of interest.
African Traders In Asia
Much of this you are already know wow lost so many great pics on this^ thread will try to re-link them.
Ancient African Coins Found In Australia Could Rewrite History; Team Seeks 1,000-Year-Old Evidence
Interesting find, waiting for futher updates.

[fromnothing]

Nov 11, 2016 4:34:25 GMT -5 anansi said:

Sorry Been glued to the fallout of the politics of the day, if the city of Gedi was abandoned about the 17th century It maybe because they were driven out, I have no absolute proof of this, but it would put us in the era of the massive Zimba attacks on the coastal cities,it was ferocious so much so it involved cannibalism.

An interesting four way conflict between the coastal Swahili the Portuguese the Turks and an inland very powerful state called the Malawi empire, who control another people called the Zimba as shock troops..more shocking than most shock troops. because they were reported to be cannibals.

I became aware of the Zimba yrs ago after read one of Dr Clarks books. and I knew they sacked the cities of the coast and eat some of the inhabitants but did not know the reasons why.

Here now is the why they were not some random group of un-controllable barbarians they were in fact a part of the military apparatus of a powerful inland state who could unleashed them at will.

Read more: egyptsearchreloaded.proboards.com/thread/394#ixzz4Pgu9tVNF
klik for more^

Indian Imitations of Aksumite Coins
egyptsearchreloaded.proboards.com/thread/1408/indian-imitations-aksumite-coins
Somewhat related is the above I think you will find it of interest.
African Traders In Asia
Much of this you are already know wow lost so many great pics on this^ thread will try to re-link them.
Ancient African Coins Found In Australia Could Rewrite History; Team Seeks 1,000-Year-Old Evidence
Interesting find, waiting for futher updates.

Oh nice info. I was unaware of that. That's pretty crazy especially considering that European documentation of African cannibals was usually done for propaganda. I wonder if there is any truth to this.

[anansi]

I think in this case and cases like this it was for extreme psychological warfare and as sign of ultimate contempt , but cannibalism usually have some religious purpose and is the logical step brother of human sacrifice practiced on every continent , the Pyramid text of Unas came to mind.

[fromnothing]

Nov 11, 2016 15:04:52 GMT -5 anansi said:

I think in this case and cases like this it was for extreme psychological warfare and as sign of ultimate contempt , but cannibalism usually have some religious purpose and is the logical step brother of human sacrifice practiced on every continent , the Pyramid text of Unas came to mind.

Oh I see. I can understand the reasons why it may have been practiced but in most cases that I see it mentioned by Europeans was for propaganda. Basically as an excuse to kill off and/or "civilize" the "savages and barbarians."

[anansi]

Yes the propaganda was heavy, anything and everything was thrown at Africans during the age of colonization and slavery it was part of their dehumanization effort to justify theft of labor and material wealth even intellectual wealth, both inside and out side Africa, so effective it was that people young even still repeat those those propaganda despite evidence to the contrary.

[fromnothing]

Nov 13, 2016 23:32:08 GMT -5 anansi said:

Yes the propaganda was heavy, anything and everything was thrown at Africans during the age of colonization and slavery it was part of their dehumanization effort to justify theft of labor and material wealth even intellectual wealth, both inside and out side Africa, so effective it was that people young even still repeat those those propaganda despite evidence to the contrary.

Sadly enough, many blacks even believe it themselves and associate "blackness" with negativity.

[zarahan]

Good animation and video series. The Chinese sailors left behind by Admiral Cheng Ho (Zheng He)
are an interesting touch. I think the Chinese sailors may not have returned because maybe they
had better prospects in Africa, compared to going back to China and serving as lowly semi-slave
labor for some shipmaster or imperial taskmaster. Or maybe they fell sick. Disease could also have
wiped out the city population.


Re cities of Africa, good work. Maybe consider another video series on key cities of the Nile Valley-
Nubia and Egypt. They are just as "African" as Kumasi.

It should be noted that the kingdom of Meroe was BOTH and Egyptian power and a "sub-Saharan one.
Many people usually try to make out as if it was just in the Sudan somewhere far "down south" but this
is not the case at all.
egyptsearchreloaded.proboards.com/post/15555





Also very important in Auxum, in present day Ethiopia which in "sub_Saharan" Africa. The single
largest carved stone monolithic in human history is found in "sub-Saharan" Africa- in Axum.
egyptsearchreloaded.proboards.com/post/12872

Also important is Benin. The largest earthen construction or earthwork in he world is found in Benin
- the city walls- also located in "Sub-Saharan Africa.


Re "cannibals"- Europeans have been doing quite well with the "cannibal" thing for centuries..
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You have some artistic talent. I think you can help expand your range and audience by doing various black history
animations- carefully elected vignettes that tell a dramatic story. Not so much the standard
Harriet Tubman things but drawn from African history. How is it for example that the Ashanti were the
only West African nation to defeat a major European power (Britain) in more than one engagement?
What battle inflicted the highest number of force ratio casualties of any major 19th century battle? The Ethiopians
at Adowa, versus the Italians. These are just examples.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/African_military_systems_(1800%E2%80%931900)


How is it that black Mereoite priests and white Ptolemaic Grecian priests sometimes collaborated together
on worship services at the Temple of Isis in Egypt? An animation on such things would break relatively
new ground. Everyone is doing Underground Railroad, but who out there is doing things like say- a dramatic
procession of the two sets of priests meeting at the temple? See the rumbling approach of the Kushite
chariots as they tied to intimidate the Greeks who showed up with the equally intimidating phalanx of spearmen
and so on? (Some artistic license admitted for dramatization purposes) No one out there is doing such things
on Youtube as far as I know. Or how about the standoff between the Roman legions and the Kushite armies leading
to a peace treaty singed by Roman emperor Augustus hisself with the Kushites which gave important concessions?
Or how about the excellent archery of the Kushites that defeated both PErsian and Arab forces? No one is
animating such battles with swarms of arrows flying, ec etc.. You can definitely break distinctive ground
on such.. Maybe you can work up some samples- parlay into a grant for a series, etc etc.. But anyway, just my 2 cents..

[fromnothing]

Thanks Zarahan. The reason for so much emphasis on the other cities is because little is known or talked about them. Most people have at least some knowledge of Nile valley cities/culture but everything south of the Sahara is largely ignored or unknown to most people. The places where our ancestors (black Americans) come from (West and Central Africa) are largely ignored. Everything on the African continent with the exception of the Nile Valley and the overrated Zulu nation is pretty much unknown, not talked about, not mentioned in any significant historical context and not included in any type of media or pop culture. That is the whole basis of this series. It's too easy to look up videos/documentaries on the Nile valley but you would have a hard time finding a video that specifically covers a city like Kumasi or even the Ashanti kingdom as a whole.

[nebsen]

Nov 17, 2016 18:42:05 GMT -5 fromnothing said:

Thanks Zarahan. The reason for so much emphasis on the other cities is because little is known or talked about them. Most people have at least some knowledge of Nile valley cities/culture but everything south of the Sahara is largely ignored or unknown to most people. The places where our ancestors (black Americans) come from (West and Central Africa) are largely ignored. Everything on the African continent with the exception of the Nile Valley and the overrated Zulu nation is pretty much unknown, not talked about, not mentioned in any significant historical context and not included in any type of media or pop culture. That is the whole basis of this series. It's too easy to look up videos/documentaries on the Nile valley but you would have a hard time finding a video that specifically covers a city like Kumasi or even the Ashanti kingdom as a whole.

Here is a pretty decent documentary on the Ashanti Empire. I found it when I was doing some research on Ghana . This is part of a series that BBC did on Africa, the host & narrator is himself a Afro Brit, with Ghanaian ancestry.

[fromnothing]

Nov 18, 2016 12:38:45 GMT -5 nebsen said:

Nov 17, 2016 18:42:05 GMT -5 fromnothing said:

Thanks Zarahan. The reason for so much emphasis on the other cities is because little is known or talked about them. Most people have at least some knowledge of Nile valley cities/culture but everything south of the Sahara is largely ignored or unknown to most people. The places where our ancestors (black Americans) come from (West and Central Africa) are largely ignored. Everything on the African continent with the exception of the Nile Valley and the overrated Zulu nation is pretty much unknown, not talked about, not mentioned in any significant historical context and not included in any type of media or pop culture. That is the whole basis of this series. It's too easy to look up videos/documentaries on the Nile valley but you would have a hard time finding a video that specifically covers a city like Kumasi or even the Ashanti kingdom as a whole.

Here is a pretty decent documentary on the Ashanti Empire. I found it when I was doing some research on Ghana . This is part of a series that BBC did on Africa, the host & narrator is himself a Afro Brit, with Ghanaian ancestry.

Yep I've seen this too. It was a good one ^^ but I have trouble finding any others or any that get into vivid details of the architecture, technology etc. For example I've heard a few accounts of the Ashanti having gravity powered flushing toilets upstairs but I've never seen any thorough descriptions or documentaries on things like that.

[nebsen]

Nov 18, 2016 16:28:52 GMT -5 fromnothing said:

Nov 18, 2016 12:38:45 GMT -5 nebsen said:

Here is a pretty decent documentary on the Ashanti Empire. I found it when I was doing some research on Ghana . This is part of a series that BBC did on Africa, the host & narrator is himself a Afro Brit, with Ghanaian ancestry.

Yep I've seen this too. It was a good one ^^ but I have trouble finding any others or any that get into vivid details of the architecture, technology etc. For example I've heard a few accounts of the Ashanti having gravity powered flushing toilets upstairs but I've never seen any thorough descriptions or documentaries on things like that.

here you might see most of the series !