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Post by djoser-xyyman on Jun 8, 2017 10:51:56 GMT -5
First off these are indigenous Africans all lineage found in these AEians going back to >500bc are still found in Africans today and looking at the geographical context. They are found deep in sub-Saharan Africa. In fact the deeper south you go these lineage increases. In fact although not shown in the post Kenyans and Great Lakes Africans carry many of the basal clades found in this group of ancient Egyptians. www.nature.com/articles/ncomms15694Here is a table of the mitogenomes of the pre-Ptolemaic Ancient Egyptians. Here are the mitogenomes of modern Sub-Saharans on the East Coast of Africa. Keep in mind L1b, L3* and L4-6 is found outside Africa far into Persia and beyond and India. I Have highlighted mitogenomes in green to show unusual mtDNA. Eg this is the first I have seen mtDNA B4 in East Africa . IIRC mtDNA A has been found in Western Africa. Remnants of first OOA (Native Americans)? OOA may be more recent than we believe. But look at the epicenter of ancient Egypt
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Post by djoser-xyyman on Jun 8, 2017 10:52:11 GMT -5
I Have highlighted mitogenomes in green to show unusual mtDNA. Eg this is the first I have seen mtDNA B4 in East Africa . IIRC mtDNA A has been found in Western Africa. Remnants of first OOA (Native Americans)? OOA may be more recent than we believe. But look at the epicenter of ancient Egypt
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Post by djoser-xyyman on Jun 8, 2017 10:54:38 GMT -5
more modern SSA
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Post by djoser-xyyman on Jun 8, 2017 11:02:02 GMT -5
More of modern samples
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Post by djoser-xyyman on Jun 8, 2017 11:02:21 GMT -5
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Post by djoser-xyyman on Jun 8, 2017 11:02:36 GMT -5
Location of the samples pulled from AEians But look at the epicenter of ancient Egypt
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Post by djoser-xyyman on Jun 8, 2017 11:03:15 GMT -5
The people of LOWER EGYPT were like modern day Sub Saharans like Sudanese/Ethiopians and Somalians.
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Post by djoser-xyyman on Jun 8, 2017 11:06:17 GMT -5
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Post by djoser-xyyman on Jun 8, 2017 11:08:10 GMT -5
These researchers are bluffin and trying to fake us out. the mtDNA found in Ethiopians. Sudanese, and Somalians were found in lower Egypt going back >500BC.
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Post by djoser-xyyman on Jun 8, 2017 12:23:51 GMT -5
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Post by djoser-xyyman on Jun 8, 2017 12:51:17 GMT -5
One thing that stands out. The ancient Egyptians of lower Egypt are closely related to modern Southern Africans like Ethiopians and Somalians. And to a lesser extent modern Sudanese. It looks like these indigenous Afriacans from lower were pushed back into the Horn area. I would like to see a breakdown of Kenyans and Tanzanians.
We know Kenyans carry the basal clades of some of these haplogroups found in lower Egypt.
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Post by djoser-xyyman on Jun 8, 2017 13:13:12 GMT -5
Also amazingly looking at the mitogenomes of modern Sudanese, Ethiopians and Somalians there is a extremely high frequency of mtDNA L and its sub-clades. The diversity and frequency of mtDNA L sub-clades is off the charts. But what stands out to me is the presence and frequency of mtDNA L0* in all three populations. This is a very very very old linage age found throughout Africa. Keep in mind mtDNA L was found in 8000year old Neolithics of the Levant(Fernandez et al etc) and pre-historic Iberians.
It is impossible for mtDNA L to “by-pass” Egypt when it was 1000’s of miles away in pre-historic times like the Levant and Iberia.
The researchers are lying or selectively choosing data to publish.
I had my doubts they would do that but I guess they are getting desperate. The aDNA is destroying the myth of a Eurocentric Regional evolution. Now it is time to lie, mis-represent and/or destroy data.
Expect more lies, or falsification of data.
Fortunately they cannot retract what they have already published
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Post by djoser-xyyman on Jun 8, 2017 15:05:43 GMT -5
According to Fernandez et al. And assuming no data or samples were destroyed. “Europeans do stuff like that”. That makes it 7% of 8000 year old PPNB/Neolithics of the Levant carried African mtDNA L/3. Now current Sudanese/Somalians and Ethiopians carry L3….as well as modern Egyptians. They also carry African L3 and other L sub-clades. Now how is it that these pre-Ptolemiac AEians do not carry mtDNA L? Trust me …they are manipulating the results.
Furthermore as you can see. Sudanese carry the mtDNA K, R0 and H and their subclades. Infact these clades are still in their pristine form as one travel south deeper into SSA near to the Great Lakes.
Undoubtedly these AEians are indigenous Africans.
As usual these Eurocentrics researchers are cheating. …. And the cheating is getting worst.
----- Ancient DNA Analysis of 8000 B.C. Near Eastern Farmers Supports an Early Neolithic Pioneer Maritime Colonization of Mainland Europe through Cyprus and the Aegean Islands - Fernandez
Quote: Haplogroup composition
MtDNA haplogroups could be assigned to 14 out of the 15 skeletons according to the HVS1 sequences obtained and on the diagnostic Single Nucleotide Positions (SNPs) typed following Phylotree rCRS oriented version 15 (Tables 1 and S6).
Haplogroup K was the most prevalent, (N = 6, 42.8%) followed by R0 (N = 3, 21.42%) and H (N = 2, 14.28%). The observed haplogroup frequencies were compared to those of 59 modern populations from the Near East and South Eastern Europe and 2 Early Neolithic populations from Central Europe (LBK-AVK Neolithic, [24]) and North Eastern Iberia (Cardial/Epicardial Neolithic, [27]) (N = 11,610) (Table S7).
Haplogroup K was present in almost all populations compared, and its mean frequency in South Eastern Europe and the Near East was around 7%. It reached its highest frequencies in certain populations that have experienced recent population bottlenecks, such as the Askhenazi Jews and the Csángó in Transylvania, Romania [33], [34] and also among Greek Cypriots. Moreover, it was also highly represented in both Cardial/Epicardial (15.56%) and LBK-AVK (23.08%) Early Neolithic datasets. Haplogroup R0 is especially prevalent in the Near East and North Africa with a mean frequency in both regions around 6%. The maximum frequencies of R0 were detected in South Arabian populations such as Bedouin, Oman and Saudi Arabia (Table S7). The rare European haplogroups U* and N* were also detected in 2 individuals in our ancient sample. The mean frequency of haplogroup U* is 2% in the Near East, 0.9% in the Caucasus region and around 1% in Europe, whereas the N* mean frequency is less than 1% in all three datasets. However, both haplogroups reach peaks of frequency in certain populations, such as haplogroup U* in Crete. The case of N* is especially interesting, because apart from Bulgaria, Crete, Romania and Serbia it was only represented in Near Eastern populations (Iran, Jordan, Near Eastern Jews, Oman, Palestine, Saudi Arabia, Syria, Turkmenistan and United Arab Emirates). Moreover, this haplogroup was also detected in 4 Neolithic specimens from Catalonia, in North Eastern Spain, associated to the Cardial/Epicardial culture [27]. Carry- over contamination from these samples processed in the same laboratory can be ruled out, as results were validated in a second independent laboratory.
Finally, the skeleton H8 belonged to the African L3 lineage, this being the most prevalent African haplogroup found in present-day Near Eastern populations.
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Post by djoser-xyyman on Jun 8, 2017 21:56:24 GMT -5
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In Africa, haplogroup T is primarily found among Afro-Asiatic-speaking populations, including the basal T* clade.[1] Some non-basal T clades are also commonly found among the Niger-Congo-speaking Serer
Datoga Tanzania Nilo-Saharan 1/57 1.75% Tishkoff 2007 and Knight 2003
Sudan Sudan Undetermined 3/102 2.94% Soares 2011
Tigrai Ethiopia Afro-Asiatic > Semitic 3/44 6.82% Kivisild 2004
Amhara Ethiopia Afro-Asiatic > Semitic 5/120 4.17% Kivisild 2004
Dawro K. Ethiopia Afro-Asiatic > Omotic 2/137 1.46% Castrì 2008 and Boattini 2013
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Post by djoser-xyyman on Jun 8, 2017 22:01:25 GMT -5
Haplogroup K is believed to have originated around 12,000 years ago in Western Asia, quite likely in the Caucasus. It is the most common subclade of haplogroup U8b,[3] with an estimated age of c. 12,000 years BP.[4]
Haplogroup K is also found among Gurage (10%),[8] Syrians (9.1%),[8] Afar (6.3%),[8] Zenata Berbers (4.11%),[13] Reguibate Sahrawi (3.70%),[13] Oromo (3.3%),[8] Iraqis (2.4%),[8] Saudis (0%-10.5%),[8] Yemenis (0%-9.8%),[8] and Algerians (0%-4.3%).[13]
Haplogroup K1 has likewise been observed among specimens at the mainland cemetery in Kulubnarti, Sudan, which date from the Early Christian period (AD 550-800).[20]
Haplogroup X1 - found primarily in North Africa as well as in some populations of the Levant, notably among the Druze
The basal R* clade is found among the Soqotri (1.2%), as well as in Northeast Africa (1.5%), the Middle East (0.8%), the Near East (0.8%), and the Arabian peninsula (0.3%).[8]
R0a or (preHV)1: Occurs commonly in the Arabian peninsula, with its highest frequency observed among the Soqotri.[10] Moderate frequencies found in North Africa, the Horn of Africa, and Central Asia.
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