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Post by Tukuler al~Takruri on Jan 15, 2019 17:44:41 GMT -5
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Post by djoser-xyyman on Jan 15, 2019 20:50:30 GMT -5
Hmmm. I never knew he had a school in Chicago. I read "Enemies,,,,,,," when I started my journey. Good info
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Post by Tukuler al~Takruri on Jan 15, 2019 22:28:35 GMT -5
Not just the Institute of Positive Education primary school but Third World Press too, and he used to publish Black Books Bulletin. thirdworldpressfoundation.org/Google him, the school (K-8 I think). YouTube him. Beside oratory, some of his poetry over jazz beats is there. >40yrs dedicated continuance of BAM born principles of struggle laid out in From Plan to Planet. Too bad no new similar rewrite, as tie&jacket have replaced dashiki&fila, English instead of kiSwahili names for values and stuff. Every Black should own • From Plan to Planet • Destruction of Black Civilization to analyze and creatively implement their blueprints in all civic associations, business, educational, social, etc., organizations. The Book of Life is good conscious rap. Have you read his YellowBlack? Even this autobio is deeply analytic. Anyway. If your 'infant' child is the raisin in the bowl of milk at school they will develop psych issues unless the home is in a community with 95% of the neighbors looking mostly like you do. The black environment you grew up in isn't passed along genetically. Only immersion in one can assure the child will have a head that knows who and where in the world they are and with confidence. On the other hand a Condoleeza is possible, excellent skills, talent, and mind, but a raisin with no ethnic anchor outside the bowl.
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Post by djoser-xyyman on Jan 16, 2019 7:30:14 GMT -5
I have a nice collection but only "Enemies" I have of his. To the chagrin of my blood brother I am not into the cultural approach. I don't wear it on my sleeves. So no Kwaanza for me. My track is the social and psychological. Ala Umar J. My library is filled with Fannon type collections. But whether being a culture vulture or psychological soldier, we have our part to play. I will check out YouTube
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Post by Tukuler al~Takruri on Jan 16, 2019 10:05:41 GMT -5
So you celebrate no holidays?
I'm unlimited. As full spectrum and variant as the kaleidoscope.
A culture vulture would be an alt right person selling Kinaras, for instance.
I found Kiowa Sioux more interested in Kwanzaa than the avg Black American is.
Everybody in the world has culture. Their own or somebody elses. Without a set of ethics like the Seven Principles or the Noachide Laws you have no society above the savage.
Skip to 23:10 then to 30:39
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Post by djoser-xyyman on Jan 16, 2019 14:09:42 GMT -5
Don't get me wrong. I grew up Roman Catholic(semi-religious). First communion and all that sheeeesh. But when I came of age searching for answers religion clouded my prism but Afrocentricity got me on the right path. Cleared my head and provided answer. So I won't knock it(Kwaanza and the like). Afrocentricity got me to where I am so I understand the world.
I believe clearing the mind and being grounded in reality is what the black mind needs more. So there are authors and books I hold in high regard. Barring the usual suspects like Garvey and X. Other authors I consider pioneers are Haki eg I believe "if we can't live together then we should live apart".......Haki. Fannon kept it real also. He did not wear a dashiki! And that brotha from Nigeria. Cheinweizu? "The west and the rest of us" is my "bible". Notice I did not include King and these moderns. Although I am partial to UJ. Not sure if he for real or not. Can't understand why he can't raise the money. But what he is proposing I think will help solve the plight of young black men. In ten years many of the issues may be reversed.
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Post by anansi on Feb 3, 2019 10:05:56 GMT -5
youtu.be/UlctqXntnOwGreat back & forth between Killa Mike and DJ Envy on the subject of Black schools.
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Post by Tukuler al~Takruri on Feb 4, 2019 14:32:32 GMT -5
youtu.be/UlctqXntnOwGreat back & forth between Killa Mike and DJ Envy on the subject of Black schools. I wonder why y ppl don't rely on Ed Sheeran and Martin Garrix -- their most popular recording artist and DJ/MC -- for analysis of anything in WhiteWorld less lone serious sociology. Whites rely on trained analysts and sociology professionals. Blacks rely on the popular entertainers gum flaps.
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Post by anansi on Feb 5, 2019 3:12:13 GMT -5
Because they may be more relatable especially to that crowd which is not insignificant, unfortunately they know about a DJ Envy & Killa Mike than Ed Sheeran and Martin Garrix whom they might have never heard of, plus these gentlemen are entrepreneurs away from the mike and the studio, Killa Mike owns half a block of real estate , and Envy flips apartments buildings. BTW if you guys have time checkout Trigger Warning on Netflix.
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Post by Tukuler al~Takruri on Feb 5, 2019 14:39:52 GMT -5
My point was missed. While Blacks have been lead to accept popular entertainers as authoritative and spokesman, no other group turns to any but those experienced so to deliver accurate assessment and analysis of their socio-political matters. Apologies only assure Blacks banter opinions instead of getting down to the nuts and bolts. Money shmoney. Look at all the money the USChump got? What does it justify? His view that violent white supremacists are good people? What happened to the each one teach teaching of the 3 corrupters: money power sex? Property eh? When JayZ held interest in Barclay Center every black business (mostly Caribbean) nearby suddenly fell due to rent increase. No thought no plan to 'save' the proprietor blacks. J sold his interest and moved on the richer. The Black proprieters and their Black employees??? Well not being relateable popular entertainers who knows? Now Killer Mike (an activist & 'woke' rapper) and DJ Envy are very fine at what they do, and nothing's wrong with them swapping and expressing anecdotes and opinions. And it's very good if thanks to them some are first time finding out about it. Beyond that first step of just finding out, what about the word of bona fide Black educators and psychologists? And better, Blacks involved in actually running a 'free' school, or even a 'Black' charter school, or maybe an ethnic academy (Haitians have/had one in NYC). Na, guess its too hard and not at all entertaining to see what folk really involved and qualified to examine the angles w/o heat designed for ratings to attract advertisers have to say. Well, that's not gon happen here. So what were the entertainers' 'debate' points? How did they back them and what exactly did the target audience learn? Which way would one choose after watching the You Tube? Listening to Killer Mike/DJ Envy, would or could one understanding the 7 Principles choose a 'free' or charter or parochial for charitable donations? ? ? ? Ya think the ESR readership relate more to popular entertainers w/o a topic's background than professionals whose business/livelihood is all about a topic under consideration? You are ESR all these years so you do know. Me? OK, I forget the 'social media' driven mentality of the times. Because they may be more relatable especially to that crowd which is not insignificant, unfortunately they know about a DJ Envy & Killa Mike than Ed Sheeran and Martin Garrix whom they might have never heard of, plus these gentlemen are entrepreneurs away from the mike and the studio, Killa Mike owns half a block of real estate , and Envy flips apartments buildings. BTW if you guys have time checkout Trigger Warning on Netflix.
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Post by anansi on Feb 6, 2019 5:34:28 GMT -5
Al-takuri said:[ Me? OK, I forget the 'social media' driven mentality of the times.]
Yes that's exactly it, the "old" upper and middle class Black or struggling class folks, are no longer that influential,new media rulez !!
else bookstores that caters to the community would not be in jeopardy of shutting down, as to the entertainers who might be "woke" they have the advantage of the mega phone, when was the last time something said from one of our traditional intellectual went " viral ".. Judging from the response it seems like Killa Mike's POV of setting up neighbourhood schools that caters to Black kids up to age 13 carried the day rather than majority "good white" schools, where the education is good but the racism is bad.
BTW Urban Prep is yet to be mass produced the template is there already all they have to do is stay true to their creed/goals true they have problems at one of their charters.
The Revolution May not be Televised.. But you can catch it on Instagram , Tweeter or YouTube.
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Post by Tukuler al~Takruri on Feb 6, 2019 8:19:38 GMT -5
Yeah, thx 2 iHeart (a true voice of black people all right and whose employees btw are all middle and upper class as are their guests) instead of taking part in the revolution (sic) you can
"stay home plug in turn on and cop out" Gil Scott Heron -- the revolution will not be televised
SMH. Who advocates the Mean Machine is progressive ? Y ppl see through the social media as reality sham It'll take a lot of blk minds if it's all they rely on.
[Eff Stalin, i needed The teaching e lyrics ]
But you can't stop the progressive children of the revolution because The Struggle is ongoing -- with or without you or me . Mediocrity and dumb down 4/t blx totally unacceptable.
Unconnected children catching phony instagram twitter etc <<cough>>'revolution'<<cough>>, buying Urban Novels, uninterested in culture, didn't buy from blackbooks stores. That ain't nothing to be proud of. "Children get your culture Don't stand and gesture Or the battle will be harder and you won't get no supper" - Bob Marley - Whitebooks stores have failed, shee-it, big corps like Sears is in trouble.
No matter worry bout that. One of the oldest 'free' schools flipside is 3rd World Press, old, strong, online. Another black, not urban, old middle&upper bookseller presence still going strong and also online, Africa World Press. 3 strong chords twine a invincible cable. Black Classic Press (Ta Nehesi Coates' dad), all this time still doing fine and also online.
So don't rejoice in demise of BBS. They're still around when the woke are ready to get conscious. And 4x8 vendors of blackbooks, not urbanbooks, are still on the street and at the festivals.
Wise up. Ageism is self-defeating. Take it from a member of the generation claimed it'd never grow old. If you don't die you will age, and much much quicker than you think. When did Blacks start throwing away their grans? The black lives that don't matter? The black lives that put you where you began for you to strive higher?
As a generation to generation passed along culture, the Afrikan community's in no trouble. It will be here forever unlike a fad cycling every 40-100 years. Universities with Afrikan centered departments or courses continue to churn out middles&uppers with the education and skill set required to found and operate educational institutions dedicated to excellence and ethnic identity.
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Post by kel on Feb 6, 2019 17:29:37 GMT -5
I believe clearing the mind and being grounded in reality is what the black mind needs more
FACTS
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Post by Tukuler al~Takruri on Feb 8, 2019 7:52:02 GMT -5
Continuing from the OP and thread topic Independent African American Educational Institutions There was an African Free School founded in 1794 but it wasn't independent. Its name comes from the fact that blacks in the USA identified as African then and there was no tuition. USA blacks ceased identifying as African when the USA planned to deport its black population to Africa in complete denial of their American birth, citizenship, and culture. The African Free School(s) were founded by rich white men. They had it in their hearts to see Africans of America educated. Not only that, also that there be African American educators. They fell apart as any kind of ethnic institute when New York city swallowed them into the public school system. The 1930's would see the beginnings of a school system founded and designed by American blacks conscious of their unique identity and cultural needs. It was technically a Nation of Islam parochial school. As of 2019, very successful and going strong in several cities. Clara Mohammed (wife of the Hon. Elijah Mohammed) started Islamic schools in America when she refused to send her children to the public school system. A very strong-willed woman, Clara Mohammed did not feel that the existing environment provided the proper education, self-respect, and dignity that her children deserved. claramohammedschool.org/about/
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Post by Tukuler al~Takruri on Feb 8, 2019 8:04:15 GMT -5
Non-parochial yet instilling civilized morality and ethnic values.
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