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Post by Tukuler al~Takruri on Feb 21, 2019 12:36:49 GMT -5
Amazing!
A presumably black forum where no one reads The Final Call nor has read any Elijah Muhammad books don't know Master Fard was a non-black Levantine or the Lost Found Nation of Islam call for land (beyond the original renegged 40 Acres and a Mule reparations).
If ones really wanted to know, rather than throw stones and poison wells, all they needed do was research it like they do everything else.
For those still don't get it, intentional maligners get it but want to make sure others stay misinformed.
#ADOS is nationality and lineage driven not complexion or hair texture driven.
Nationality: American USA Lineage: ante-bellum USA slavery
For whoever doesn't fit the profile (I don't) plenty black people who are Muslim fit it. Some black people who are Jews fit it. Beth Elohim of Charleston's constitution barred black Israels from membership while welcoming the 'shiksa' who could give Spanish&Portuguese offspring even lighter skin. Don't ask -- go research.
Why wouldn't the Honorable Elijah Muhammad prefer hair and skin like his own? He didn't make up caucasoid feature preference in Black America. To this day BlkAms still prefer what they call good hair.
[Asians make big bucks off of that. and they manufacture your du-rags too no wonder they disrespect you and tell you what's best for you while you fawn all over them]
Look at your hiphop images. Lightskin rulez! And this the 20 teens not the 19 30s 40s and 50s. Ghetto Diamond may be a man's best friend but she betta be Redbone.
NOI has long since paid its dues. Detractors mock it and its generations of • reforming convicts, • instilling moral civilized principles, • taking addicts off opiates, • importing fish, • urban businesses, • rural farms. Listen to pre-disco Kool &/t Gang and especially their junior band the KG's.
How long ago was it Ashkenazim promoted PJ's crime and violence when they lobbied the Gubment to cut off funding Farrakhan and the Nation's Fruit from patrolling, eliminating crime, and cleaning up the worst of 'Hoods? No one else, group, or agency has done as much caring positive lasting work for the Black Community of America.
But people wanna talk about fluff instead of NOI activity that uplifts whoever it touches.
As the leader of an internal nation Farrakhan doesn't need what you all think will be pocket $$$ reparations. The Nation would want institutional reparation $$$ and reparational land grants and fisheries. It's membership is overwhelmingly #ADOS. NOI would not piss away repair $$$ on trap goods, strippers, 'Hummers', and Italian designers.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2019 16:57:52 GMT -5
American Descendants of Slavery, ADOS, includes people like Americo-Liberians, the inhabitants of Samaná in the Dominican Republic, Trinidadians whose ancestors fought against the USA as part of lord Dunmore's Ethiopian Regiment during the American Revolution and Haitians whose ancestors Lincoln sent to Haiti to be rid of the "Negro Problem". All of these people are American Descendants of Slavery. Let's not forget that Blacks were not citizens of The USA until after the US Civil War, so claiming 'citizenship' as a criterion for inclusion under that label is dubious. The people who came up with this foolishness should have called their movement "Hey, where's my forty acres and my mule?" since that was, kind of, promised to Blacks as brand new citizens of the USA.
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Post by asante on Feb 24, 2019 22:08:08 GMT -5
I missed all the fun in this discussion....some of y'all have been on rampage against the ADOS I see! Afro-Carribeans are making their own case for reparations against the European nations reported earlier this decade, and that movement did not include American descendants of slaves, but y'all think that our ish is supposed to be all encompassing to include them?...GTFO! ADOS is a legit movement with a promising outcome for ADOS members. You people...who actually think that Jamaicans, Haitians, Trinidadians etc are apart of this movement are out of your minds. ADOS means this;
Marcus Garvey ABANDONED the notion of spreading Pan Africanism to Caribbean blacks, because they rejected it at the time. He felt that moving to America, and particularly Harlem was the only place to get the motor of Pan Africanism going. Therefore miss all of me with that argument of Pan Africanism coming from the Caribbean. Caribbean blacks have a different social dynamic that is directly reflective of their distinctive history during and after African enslavement. When Marcus Garvey came to America he was horrified by the gruesome reports of lynchings throughout the south, which means that that is a terror that ADOS blacks went through that Caribbean blacks did not go through. That terror was arguably directly related to social-economics. An entire culture in the region where most ADOS have historically resided resulted from the distinctive subjugation of ADOS, and that culture was very strong all the way into the 1990's (yes blacks in GA, AL, MS, SC, FL were still ducking their heads and moving off of sidewalks to white people in the 90's).
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Post by asante on Feb 25, 2019 11:47:57 GMT -5
American Descendants of Slavery, ADOS, includes people like Americo-Liberians, the inhabitants of Samaná in the Dominican Republic, Trinidadians whose ancestors fought against the USA as part of lord Dunmore's Ethiopian Regiment during the American Revolution and Haitians whose ancestors Lincoln sent to Haiti to be rid of the "Negro Problem". All of these people are American Descendants of Slavery. Let's not forget that Blacks were not citizens of The USA until after the US Civil War, so claiming 'citizenship' as a criterion for inclusion under that label is dubious. The people who came up with this foolishness should have called their movement "Hey, where's my forty acres and my mule?" since that was, kind of, promised to Blacks as brand new citizens of the USA. No the f*ck it does not include them! They left the US and never came back. They did not go through a century Jim Crow, and the missed the major events during the enslavement years such as the mass interrogation, murder and torture of blacks following the Nat Turner rebellions. The Liberians were already FREED black people (largely from Kentucky) who left for Africa during the early part of the 19th century. Y'all need to get the f*ck out of here with that ish. You mf's are the one's who are getting chopped to PIECES by the new black media. The new media has shaken this democratic primary to it's CORE, and to such an extent that one of the most propped up candidates has already been sunken (Kamala Harris). The new black media is why these candidates are coming onto the breakfast club and Charlemagne (who admittedly get's his advise from his personal contacts with members of the new black media) has been asking them about a "black agenda". These mf's NEVER said anything about a "black agenda" before the new black media's push for this election that they could no longer ignore. The typical old black Democratic puppets (including the "articulate" Michael Eric Dyson) have been leveled for their antics. Antics like pretending that Kamala Harris grew up in; comes from; and respects black American culture, when BOTH of her parents are from the boujee INDIAN/non black "Jamaican" class.
I'm glad that some of y'all are showing who y'all are with your stance on this subject. You people are clearly not grass roots black folks, and many members are very aware that. We not sure what your agenda's are...but we are aware that some of you champion ideals that are overtly detrimental to the progression and well being of black people in America. It all seems to be in alignment with white liberal democratic integrationalist ideals, which automatically cancels what you have to say to a real one. ADOS is not a disrespect to non ADOS diaspora or Africans, and for you all to actually act like it is shows that you are foes to our people. How dare some of these Caribbean blacks who work extra hard to distance themselves from the identity of ADOS when they come to America try to jump on the bandwagon as "black" when benefits for the label that they wholeheartedly rejected start to be talked about. It's disgraceful!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2019 14:05:59 GMT -5
"No the f*ck it does not include them! They left the US and never came back." , how the f*ck do you know they never came back? You don't. The descendant of lord Dunmore's Ethiopian Regiment who migrates to the USA, becomes a citizen of the USA is every bit an ADOS as you are because he is a US citizen whose ancestors were slaves in the thirteen colonies that became the USA. Is that clear enough for you? The same holds for Helene Cooper, NYT reporter and Americo-Liberian, it would be true for some Haitians, Dominicans and Nova Scotians. THEY WOULD ALL BE ADOS BY DEFINITION. IF YOU WANT TO EXCLUDE THEM YOU NEED TO CHANGE THE DEFINITION OF ADOS. "They did not go through a century Jim Crow, and the missed the major events during the enslavement years such as the mass interrogation, murder and torture of blacks following the Nat Turner rebellions." What the hell does Jim crow have to do with compensation for slavery? Nothing. You and your friends would have a better case for compensation if you dropped the pretense to speak for descendants of slaves and called your outfit as I suggested above: "Hey, where's my forty acres and my mule?" since that was, kind of, promised to Blacks as brand new citizens of the USA." Claiming to speak for and demanding reparations for slaves and shamelessly excluding descendants of some slaves because they were smart enough to get out is fraudulent. If this is an honest demand for compensation for theft of labor, drop the "American" nonsense and include all whose ancestors toiled for free in the thirteen colonies and after the founding of the USA whether their descendants are US citizens or not. What right do you have to claim compensation for the work performed by people who were not your ancestors? Note that I don't claim that all Haitians, Trinidadians, Dominicans or Nova Scotians who are black deserve compensation from the USA, only those who fled or were resettled from the USA or the thirteen colonies.
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Post by Tukuler al~Takruri on Feb 25, 2019 21:45:23 GMT -5
excluding descendants of some slaves because they were smart enough to get out 😱 You just called the Black Americans stupid. 😨
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Post by asante on Feb 26, 2019 1:46:09 GMT -5
how the f*ck do you know they never came back? You don't. Ok..Do tell, which one's came back? We know that many left from Kentucky, and were given reparations in the form of a sovereign state known as Liberia. The descendant of lord Dunmore's Ethiopian Regiment who migrates to the USA, becomes a citizen of the USA is every bit an ADOS as you are because he is a US citizen whose ancestors were slaves in the thirteen colonies that became the USA.If they wish to make that case for themselves then so be it. The reason why you sound stupid, is because you are taking exceptions to the rules and trying to blanket the entire carribean with those exceptions for their inclusions in our ADOS affairs. Like get the f*ck on with that. Caribbean blacks have always maintained their national identities, and many even speak of it as a racial distinction "oh I'm black & Jamaican" ...but it's so common. They are not apart of ADOS as a whole, so miss every bit of me with those silly azz exceptions to the rule. That's where you F*ck up with the assumption that ADOS is simply an identity that ended in 1865. ADOS is also the legacy of being American descendants of slaves living in post emancipation America. It's having family reunions in the country towns of the family origins, it's hearing the stories of surviving different episodes of Jim Crow that our elders experienced, ADOS is having your family unit shaken by the brutal white supremacist social engineering of AMERICA, ADOS is pork based "soul food", that none of these silly azz non ADOS (who claim to fit the definition) know about. If they want to make their own case, then they can do that. That is not in the direct interest of AMERICAN descendants of slaves. Y'all really got it twisted...we are not caping for non AMERICAN descendants of slaves, because we have our own problems. Again to bring to your attention Caribbean blacks about four years made the case for their own reparations from the United Kingdom and other European nations, and those reparations did not include AMERICAN descendants of slaves.
Nothing about American descendants of slave in your lawsuit for reparations for slavery. SO when y'all come crying foul, because AMERICAN descendants of slaves are making our own moves for reparations, I HAVE to tell people making that argument to simply shut the f*ck up! Since y'all didn't care to think about US in y'all little law suit, that is proof that we are doing our own separate things based on separate identities. Stay the f*ck out of our potential goody bag. Bah! The reason why your argument is dumb..is because of the entire effort that you are putting into making exceptions to the rule general situations. Your entire contrarian opinion is coming from exceptions to the rule..sit down dude![/quote]
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2019 4:14:12 GMT -5
excluding descendants of some slaves because they were smart enough to get out 😱 You just called the Black Americans stupid. 😨 Listen genius, I never argued for inclusion of all Caribbeans in the definition of ADOS as this idiotic comment of yours claims. "The reason why you sound stupid, is because you are taking exceptions to the rules and trying to blanket the entire carribean with those exceptions for their inclusions in our ADOS affairs." Try understanding what you read before making an ass of yourself. "The reason why your argument is dumb..is because of the entire effort that you are putting into making exceptions to the rule general situations. Your entire contrarian opinion is coming from exceptions to the rule..sit down dude![/quote]" Did somebody drop you on your head when you were a child? The stupidity of your argument indicates severe brain damage. Listen up genius, I ARGUED THAT ONLY HAITIANS, LIBERIANS TRINIDADIANS AND OTHERS WHOSE ANCESTORS WERE ONCE SLAVES IN THE USA OR THE THIRTEEN COLONIES THAT PRECEDED IT SHOULD BE CONSIDERED FOR COMPENSATION BY THE USA GOVERNMENT BECAUSE THE LABOR OF THEIR ANCESTORS WAS STOLEN. I don't see why you would want to claim their compensation because your ancestors didn't clear out like theirs did. I'm not arguing "exceptions" but a general rule: COMPENSATION IS DUE TO THE DESCENDANTS OF ALL WHO WERE FORCED TO WORK FOR FREE REGARDLESS OF THEIR CURRENT NATIONALITY. You are the one making exceptions based on some chauvinistic bs. You are as moronic as the MAGA fans of Trump. Al, your clowning is getting tiresome.
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Post by asante on Feb 26, 2019 4:27:11 GMT -5
Boom
"Their compensation"...When in the f*ck did "they" become a thing in our American discussion? You cats are really trying to leech onto our movement. Those folks were not talking about anything before this movement among and specifically for the American descendants of slaves. This came specifically in response to the upcoming AMERICAN election, and particularly as it pertains to tangibles for the black vote. With that context, it magnifies the actions of the gross attempted hi-jacking of the ADOS movement, by people who are obviously put in place (because other than contrarianism to the movement they have no business in this AMERICAN discussion) to slow down the movement that is affecting the World's most important election.
So why in the f*ck are these non American blacks trying to leech onto a black AMERICAN movement to talk about what THEY are entitled too. This movement is again in regards to the upcoming AMERICAN election, so again this has NOTHING to do with NON AMERICAN blacks. You really feel entitled to the energy of a black AMERICAN movement, and it's just not going to happen. Black Americans are ON CODE. We are calling out these co opting NON native black COONS who work as shills for white supremacy (typically white liberals) to the detriment of native blacks, with the expressed view point of a distinctive nationalistic pride. Kamala Harris and Corey Booker are already finished for trying to play games with the ADOS movement.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2019 4:43:35 GMT -5
Native black COONS like you and uncle Clarence Thomas do a fine job shilling for white supremacy, so your resentment against "NON native black COONS" is just jealousy. NEWSFLASH GENIUS, ALL THIS TALK OF 'COMPENSATION' IS THE USUAL HAPPY TALK OF PRIMARY SEASON NOTHING MORE, SO, DON'T GO SPENDING THAT 'COMPENSATION' MONEY. SAY, WHERE'S YOUR FORTY ACRES AND YOUR MULE? WHITE PEOPLE NEVER GOT AROUND TO GIVING THEM TO YOUR FAMILY? TOO BAD.
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Post by Tukuler al~Takruri on Feb 26, 2019 8:13:58 GMT -5
[REPEAT I am not an ADOS Don't call me one again. A couple of African countries and/or families admit and apologize for their Maafa role. #ADOS should get in touch with them] Nice try at distraction. Didn't read past your 'genius' insult. Got nothing to do with me. YOU said the blacks didn't leave were stupid.
Who are you to decide which blacks are intelligent. Who are you to deny Black American self-determined lineage. Who are you that you think you're boss of the blacks. You have a habit of calling black people who have other ideas than your own inferior. You blow the smoke of compliments up Anansi's and Zarahan's asses so they'll let you get away with it. Your pal better take my mod power away. Else next time you insult me I will enforce the rule he won't. So go butter him up w/compliments now. Meanwhile isn't there a place where you can go and give your own people direction and insult them for having a mind of their own. 😱 You just called the Black Americans stupid. 😨 blab blab woof woof insult insult Listen genius, you sound stupid, Try understanding what you read before making an ass of yourself. Did somebody drop you on your head when you were a child? You are as moronic Wowee, all that ad homina emotion from a simple 7 word observation expressing shock? Didn't Anansi tell you to chill. Instead of getting off on how easy it was to get protective status and cart blanc by manipulating blk mgrs so you could run on your patronizing benign racism against arguments way above your head that you have no stakes in, you need to address your statement, you will never bury it in distractive diarrhea of the keyboard.
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Post by Tukuler al~Takruri on Feb 26, 2019 8:31:34 GMT -5
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Post by Tukuler al~Takruri on Feb 26, 2019 8:36:59 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2019 12:04:13 GMT -5
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Djokser You will respect me not speak to me this insulting way. - al~Takruri
YOU WRITE SOMETHING INTELLIGENT I'LL BE SURE TO BUTTER YOU UP.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2019 12:23:38 GMT -5
First we would like to welcome you and thank you for joining Egypt Search Reloaded. This site was started by members of another Egypt discussion board, in reaction to a series of undesirable posts, due to lack of moderation/administration. It is our desire to create an inviting atmosphere, free from harassment and other gross and negligent behavior. We welcome all views, and the staff of this site does not collectively encourage one view over another. Posters are free to disagree with one another, as well as with staff members posting in various threads without fear of retribution. When a particular post is modified by a staff member, the user will be publicly notified of the reason for modification. The following behavior is discouraged, and will be strictly moderated, which includes modifications or deletions of individual posts. 1. Profanity, or any use of explicit vulgar language. 2. Gross pornography and any links to pornographic material. 3. Defamation of character or Ad Hominem debates. 4. Spamming, flooding, advertising or other types of solicitation. 5. Invasion of privacy, which includes posting personal information about other members without their permission. 6. No user shall have more than one account or post under various User I.D.’s Violations of the above will result in the following consequences: 1. 1st offense, users will be publicly admonished, and kindly asked to refrain from further distractions. 2. Second offense, violators will be sent an official warning 3. Third offense, violators will be temporarily banned (30, 60, or 90 days) 4. Frequent offenses will result in a permanent ban. ** This thread may be modified by moderators at any given time** Your beef is not with me because I only responded to insults, I didn't initiate them. take your complaint to your buddy Asante. The following are some insults he sent my way that I replied to: "No the f*ck it does not include them! They left the US and never came back... Y'all need to get the f*ck out of here with that ish. You mf's are the one's who are getting chopped to PIECES by the new black media... That's where you F*ck up with the assumption that ADOS is simply an identity that ended in 1865... I HAVE to tell people making that argument to simply shut the f*ck up! Since y'all didn't care to think about US in y'all little law suit, that is proof that we are doing our own separate things based on separate identities. Stay the f*ck out of our potential goody bag... The reason why your argument is dumb..is because of the entire effort that you are putting into making exceptions to the rule general situations. Your entire contrarian opinion is coming from exceptions to the rule..sit down dude![/quote]" White boys like Asante do a lousy job pretending to be black, being black isn't about being crude and vulgar.
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