How Mayans and Incas got African culture

[jew85em]

How Mayans and Incas got African culture
By Akan Takruri
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I was watching this video, and the presenter gave an account of everything other than the logical truth. So I will break it down.



Its only one simple logical explanation.



Africans from the CT DNA group were once all the same people around 75,000bc. So what I'm saying is that these groups of people lived around the congo area, and were under 5ft tall (Pygmies) during this time, this is probably when culture and religion of Yoruba, Egypt and Mayans, and Inca were formed, because after that point some Africans from the CT DNA group migrated out of Africa, and developed into the CF DNA Haplo group, and then into the C Mongoloid DNA Haplo group. These Asians migrated to America, and became the S group I belive it is, or Indians.



Now what happend with the Mayans and Incas is that they simply kept their African culture through that journey, and didnt convert into more Native American culture. You see Pygmy Gods, similar to Bes of the Congo, withe Mayans, and multiple Pyramids, and you see almost the same Deity as Amun, with the same Ostrich feather.

[anansi]

No one remains the same for 75kyrs especially non isolated ppl such as the Maya, Inca and Indonesians and if one is talking about the seeds of advanced civilizations , they need to deal with whatever environment they found themselves in.
Take for example Kemet and Kush ,they were extremely intertwined and sprang from the same source , but yet eventually began to developed differences overtime.
Look at the very African looking folks of the Andaman Islands, how African are they culturally even genetically from post Ice aged Africans.

[Tukuler al~Takruri]

Horsefeathers!

[jew85em]

Apr 23, 2019 2:54:29 GMT -5 anansi said:

No one remains the same for 75kyrs especially non isolated ppl such as the Maya, Inca and Indonesians and if one is talking about the seeds of advanced civilizations , they need to deal with whatever environment they found themselves in.
Take for example Kemet and Kush ,they were extremely intertwined and sprang from the same source , but yet eventually began to developed differences overtime.
Look at the very African looking folks of the Andaman Islands, how African are they culturally even genetically from post Ice aged Africans.

So if a tribe travels  from Asia to the Americas and does keep any of the same culture? so Africans migrating from East to West dont keep some of the same culture? Aboriginals who are mixed with Negrito people of Asia, dont still have African culture. I can find African culture in almost every part of the world, its not even a debate

[anansi]

Jew85em said: [ So if a tribe travels from Asia to the Americas and does keep any of the same culture? so Africans migrating from East to West dont keep some of the same culture? Aboriginals who are mixed with Negrito people of Asia, dont still have African culture. I can find African culture in almost every part of the world, its not even a debate]

No they don't, not after tens of thousands of yrs,
culture is in no way stagnant even among the same group, ppl such as the original OOA, have languages that would bare no resemblance to the original, different environments,plants and animals ,would render such original culture seed meaningless, it is indeed possible to have similar cultural traits, but such is the tendency for humans to workout similar patterns of problem solving, based on their environment.
take for example lithic tools, they have at quick glance similar features but on closer examination, turned out to be very different, not even genes relative to each other withstand the march of time, what you are saying only make sense if you are saying all humans are in essence originally Africans.

Now if you are saying that certain population post OAA African migrants, can and do retained certain cultural traits in distant lands, then yes ,because they would be more recent.

[jew85em]

Apr 27, 2019 3:45:38 GMT -5 anansi said:

Jew85em said: [ So if a tribe travels from Asia to the Americas and does keep any of the same culture? so Africans migrating from East to West dont keep some of the same culture? Aboriginals who are mixed with Negrito people of Asia, dont still have African culture. I can find African culture in almost every part of the world, its not even a debate]

No they don't, not after tens of thousands of yrs,
culture is in no way stagnant even among the same group, ppl such as the original OOA, have languages that would bare no resemblance to the original, different environments,plants and animals ,would render such original culture seed meaningless, it is indeed possible to have similar cultural traits, but such is the tendency for humans to workout similar patterns of problem solving, based on their environment.
take for example lithic tools, they have at quick glance similar features but on closer examination, turned out to be very different, not even genes relative to each other withstand the march of time, what you are saying only make sense if you are saying all humans are in essence originally Africans.

Now if you are saying that certain population post OAA African migrants, can and do retained certain cultural traits in distant lands, then yes ,because they would be more recent.


If yall are researchers then Im very diappointed, so let me break it down. Im not saying if members of a tribe leave a tribe its going to be the same tribe, thats just dumb. You knew exactly what I was saying, because many of my followers, and supporters know this common information. I can just ste Archealogical facts


In Cameroon and India you find the Bo language
From India, Singapore to New Zeland they have statues of a similar Diety to
Hawaii they have similar to Bes i Menihunes
The Mayans worshipped a pygmy God
Pygmies were found in Canada, Greeland, America, and South America.
The Pygmy tribes in South america almost have an identical culture to the Pygmies of the Congo, even wearing grass skirts, and crosses across their chest Same exact thing with some Aboriginal Australians
Same thing on Papua New Guinea 
You find Swatikas all over Asia
The people of Yemen still build Beehive Tombs
You find African Pyramids all over the place


The list goes on forever. When a tribe migrats from the original, witin 50 years, they have a new language, and religion 

[Tukuler al~Takruri]

So what? Doesn't prove a thing.

You nor anyone else has tracked any
single ethnic group or tight breeding
population of one language migrating
to the spots you mention.

Please do so with an early-mid Holocene
industrial-culture and track its supposed
migratory evolution stage by stage from
A to B to C to ... or, even easier, do so
with a mid or late Holocene people.

jew 'em said:

If yall are researchers then Im very diappointed,

Who are you we should care your satisfaction?
We're no placid followers and supporters
of personalities like a flock of sheep.

We disagree with each other over many points.
We do it and don't question the research skills
of contributors whose proofs in research are
on record here @ ESR for years on end.


We follow and support replicable conclusions
based on a corpus of transdisciplinary
confirmation
that will hold up in more places than
only the right on bruh Amen Corner.
Take it up a notch.

As a solid example will you expand on your Cameroon-Bo-India idea. Please
flesh it out with dates, terminals,
routes, tools, floral/faunal xplants,
art, architecture, etc., and of course
grammatical presentation beyond a word
list of unrelated concepts.

Anything more than posting ads for your
merchandise to ESR history forum, horn
blowing, and judging ESR regulars as
non-researchers simply because some
disagree with some of your points.

After all you came to ESR out of a need.
ESR didn't come to you to plug any
money makers.


ESR has seen many new paradigms that are
supportable. Paradigms that hold no water
without special pleading and crowd pleasing
are myths. Myths do have their place and
so does historic fiction. All peoples do
incorporate myth and historical fiction in
their nationalism. Few outside the nation
see any validity in such.


BTW
ESR'ers have looked into Sudanic Africa
and India mid-late Holocene connections
evidenced in ancDNA, millet, and Zebu.

[jew85em]

Look man I dont even understand what Im even debating with you about at this moment. I created multiple post breaking down my research and showing the African connections. I dont even know what to call what you are trying to get from this. My work has been peer reviewed by the best, so your little evaluation is kinds comical. Ive literally worked with researchers arond the globe helping me with my research, and this is the place where something as elementary as African culture surviving migrations is a debate. That what disappointing me. I come here and see such brilliant research, then see the same people say such idiotic comments. Its like debating a White person on Egyptians being white. This coming from a person who has bragged about this research on this site for years. Very disappointed in the level of elementary explanation, of culture being survived

[Tukuler al~Takruri]

Ad homina, appeal to authority, anything but what

YYT said:

As a solid example will you expand on your Cameroon-Bo-India idea. Please flesh it out with
• dates,
• terminals,
• routes,
• tools,
• floral/faunal transplants,
• art,
• architecture,
• [clothing/costume]
• etc., and of course
• grammatical presentation
beyond a word list of unrelated concepts.

will place you outside serious Diop minded
authentification process or methodology notice.

I didn't ask anything elementary or
unreasonable. I asked for specifics
on a particular you introduced with
giving no more than one sentence.
I suggested a detailed trans-
discipline investigation.


Uninterested in fleshing out and discussing?
Keep using ESR to plug sales for your stuff.
I got no problem with that --ESR is for the
variety of our black voices-- but your postings
here? So far they're culture not history.

Little beyond 100 yr old Churchward classics
• Signs & Symbols of Primordial Man
• Origin & Evolution of Freemasonry
• Origin & Evolution of the Human Race *
I devoured back in the 70's on the word of
the Masters; Rogers Jackson Osei benJochannan.
www.africaspeaks.com/reasoning/index.php?topic=136.0;wap2


[*] Link to preview PDF and chapter abstracts


BTW
Most of us here have been calling bullshit
on published peer reviewed works like forever.
S' how ESR got its rep that attracts folk here.
We're literate as well as utube watchers here.


Anyway, please accept my apologies
if you felt offended and let's begin a
discussion where everyone's a winner
of knowledge not a do or die debate
where neither side hears the other
cos just out to rack up points.

[jew85em]

I made this post before, I guess it got deleted. Im not going to go into any lengthy debates, but heres the information for people to have



The oldest African language in written form



West Africans, East, North Central, South, and India all link to this.

The Bea tribe is found in Andaman Islands in India. You can find these Twa groups in Malaysia, Papua New Guinea a and the Philippines.

To explain the migration that occurred between them, I’ll break it down like this.

Ok you had an early group that all Africans came from, other than Nilotes and San.

It was 3 separate migrations, that migrated to India out of Africa. An early group of Twa called BT were the first migraions. They developed the C groups in India. Which are associated whith Aboriginal Australians, Native Americans, and Oriental Asians. Next came the the D group associated with the Bea and Jarwa Twa groups. Next tribes migrated from central Africa to Ethiopia and developed the E1b1b DNA. Then these groupings migrated to India and are the most popular grouping today in India.

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Languages in the Andamans are thought to originate from Africa. Some may be up to 70,000 years old.



"It is generally believed that all Andamanese languages might be the last representatives of those languages which go back to pre-Neolithic times," Professor Abbi said.

"The Andamanese are believed to be among our earliest ancestors."



Boa Sr was part of this community, which is made up of 10 "sub-tribes" speaking at least four different languages.



"No human contact has been established with the Sentinelese and so far they resist all outside intervention," Professor Abbi said.



The Bo language is just your regular Bantu language. So I was wondering If the Twa originally spoke Bantu or not. Well this language goes back to about 60,000 years. This same language is found in Cameroon as well. I couldn’t find any Igbo connections to the language, but there is a couple of variations between the clans, and at the time I only have one language. You can take a look at the language contstruct to see the similarities.



In Bo language

Berina=good in Bo language.

So to say something is good you would say

Igberina=Good heart/ a virtuous person

Otobernia=good waist

You have that same construct in other Bantu, like Swahili

For example

Ana=he/she . So to put that in a phrase you would say.

Anakula=he/she eats

Now the I, we, and they in Bantu Swahili, and Bo are slightly different I will explain.

In Swahili

Una=You so to place that in a phrase you would say

Unakula=you eat

Nina=I, So to put that in a phrase you would say

Ninakitaji Kula=I need to eat

Ninakitaji chakula= I need food

Now in Bo its slightly different, and this is where you find its similarities with, the migrations out of Africa, that landed in Southern Europe. You find this similar construct with the the Latin languages, that were influenced by the African migrations to Armenia. The same similar contruct is found in Italian, French, Irish, Spanish and Portuguese. For example



In the Bo language

I/my=D

In French its used in the same way, but only to say from or of. For example

je suis d'Amérique= I am from America

In Bo referring to he/she is just spells simply out

A=he/she

In French

Il/ll=He and its used to say the

So you can say il’manage=he eats

Remember in Swahili its similar, where it would be

Anakula=he/she eats

Heres all the Bo language similarities to Latin

I, my=D

th he, his, she, her, it, its ou, = a

thy=N

we, our=m

you, your=n

They, their=l



The Hattic language is directly were European language came from and they were African people examples



le-pinu="thechildren"

In Spanish its. la ninos

-tu/-du This suffix answers the question from where? example

wūr-tu 'from the land'

-ja=the katte-ja ' the king

Je=I in French example

Je doit=I need



Heres a poem in Bo language

ngô:do kûk l'àrtâ:lagî:ka,

mō:ro el:ma kâ igbâàla

mō:ro el:mo lê aden:yarà

pō:-tōt läh.

Chorus: aden:yarà pō:-tōt läh.

Translation:



thou heart-sad art,

sky-surface to there looking while,

sky-surface of ripple to looking while,

bamboo spear on lean-dost.



In Sanskrit in Tibet you can find the Bantu construct as well

Mahakala, of Tibet, is a deity that looks exactly like Twa God Bes. Take a look at how the naming is Bantu.

Quote

Mahākāla is a Sanskrit bahuvrihi of mahā (महत्; "great") and kāla (काल; "time/death"), which means "beyond time" or death.[4] The literal Tibetan translation is "Nagpo Chenpo" (Tibetan: ནག་པོ་ཆེན་པོ།), although when referring to this deity, Tibetans usually use the word Gönpo (Tibetan: མགོན་པོ།, Wylie: mgon po).



So in Bantu his name would spell like, " Mzurisaa"...even the way they say it in Tibetan looks Bantu, they say "Mgon po"



Also I have found Bantu in the Tamil language, in which the Dravidians of India used.



This goes from left to right, Egyptian, Igbo then Tamil is the one at the end



Egyptian Igbo Tamil



KAKA(God) | Ka (greater, superior) | Ko (king, superior, God)

Khu (to kill, death) | Nwu/Gbu (die/to kill) | Kol (kill)

un (living being) | Ndu (life) | Un Udambu (living body)

Budo (dwelling place) | Obodo/ubudo (country, dwelling place) | veedu (dwelling place)

Aru (mouth) | Onu (mouth) & kooh/Kwue (to speak) | kooru (speak, tell)

In- n (negation) nh-n (negation) | In mai (not in existence)

Se (to create) | Ke (to create) & Se (to draw) | Sei (do, create)

Ro (talk) | Kwo (to talk) | Koor (talk)

Penka (divide) Panje (break it) | Piri (divide)

Ala (Land of) | Ala (Land of, ground, boundary) | Nilam (Land)

Amu (children) | Umu (children) | Ammu (this is how children are called during blandishment)

Miri (water) | Miri (water) | Neer (water)

Paa/Faa (fly) | Feeh/Faa (fly) | Para (fly)

[zarahan]

Al Takuri says:

As a solid example will you expand on your Cameroon-Bo-India idea. Please
flesh it out with dates, terminals,
routes, tools, floral/faunal xplants,
art, architecture, etc., and of course
grammatical presentation beyond a word
list of unrelated concepts.

^^LOL. He has some heavy lifting to do.. The prefix 'Ka' for example
rhymes with the prefix "Va" as in the 'Vanir' a group of Norse gods. Yes!
And some say the Viking Norse went to North America. Most likely they educated
the natives further south, and this is proved by the fact that the "Ma" in Maya
rhymes with "Va". Yes! Further confirmation is seen in Norse myth, where the
short under 5ft dwarves are well known! This would correspond to the short pygmy
"Twa" which also rhymes with the prefixed Norse "Va." Yes!

[Tukuler al~Takruri]

I dunno?!?

When I was first developing Book of Gates
scene 4.5 as only the 'descendants of Hham'
and their basic black/red division paradigm
I was willing to hear critique from Manu Ampim,
Robin Walker & Fari Supiya, and even more so to
the intelligent members of their yahoogroups.
The Ribbis say: "Provide thyself a teacher
but more importantly fellow students. "

The result was precision and refinement.

I knew my critics weren't out to smash my
ego or say I was all wrong about everything
but were brothers and sisters on the same
path in fact helping me tighten my game.

But I wasn't selling books I needed to defend.
Can ya sell a book and admit it's faults too?

Diop realized time brings updates and
unknowns that have to be accounted for
so instead of revising old works he said
his new ones would correct the old.

Diop's aim was authenticity not self vindication.

Jew 'em (as disgusting a tag as Nigga rig it)
does however present much accurate info on
a plethora of subjects. Since he can't stand to
be critiqued I'm a try and not comment in his
threads. And I have learned from him and them.

I don't think they're history. I think they're
culture or general studies. Always plugging
his books hardly replying to posters' comments.

Readers w/o extensive Africana background
won't see the fact from the fancy, the
cultural assertions from the classroom
verifiables.

Both are valid. It's replicable academia
for me. And as Doc Ben taught me face to
face:"Phagh, why you now agree just cos I
said so? You got sources behind you just
as good as mine? You just as 'right' as me!"

I walked out that office down those stairs
onto the Harlem streets pondering that on
my way next to the Tree of Life.
blackinamerica.com/content/179296/the-tree-of-life-bookstore-education-center-of-harlem
Diametrically opposed views can both be valid.

[Tukuler al~Takruri]

OK, in all fairness, Akan's consonant
shifts are '99% legal' provided they
sound the way they look. Then things
like p turns into b from IE to Arabic,
etc., come into play from language to
language, even lects of the same family.

Just a baby peep at the beginning of what's
involved when it comes to letter interchange.




And no, Akan didn't address
• grammatical presentation
beyond a word list of unrelated concepts
particular and precisely Cameroon-Bo-India
considering it debate unworthy of reply not
discussion among corresponding equals, I guess? Again, I dunno?!?

His prerogative.

[zarahan]

I doubt the OP poster will begin to address the issues and
evidence you mention. He cannot even put down a basic list of
references that actually supports his various claims. And if he
is all about just plugging his own books, never engaging/interacting,
and quickly taking offense and running away form even basic queries,
it indicates a certain amount of weakness in his views. He just wants to
"drive by" and "drop" information that he thinks all should just agree
with, rather than engage and continually work to refine the knowledge
base, and adjust one's thinking where necessary.

[Tukuler al~Takruri]

Dayyum!!!

Drive-bys n shit

Gang banging in da ESR hood


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