Mystriey Of The Cocaine Mummies

[nebsen]

I'm sure many have heard of the Cocaine Mummies, in fact I'm sure it was discussed here & on ES before..but this is the 1st I've seen of this documentary.which could have been posted before but I have not seen it so I decided to post it here & now....I know many years ago white Egyptologist were adamant that the ancient Egyptians never did take any drugs what so ever ..that's because they were claiming the ancient Egyptians as a part of the white race with all their Christian puritanical views about the world & sin...but we all know by now that the ancient world had no such views esp around the time of dynastic Kemet...case in point the Blue Lotus that is seen in many paintings with the ancient Egyptian was used as a narcotic..& many other forms of recreational drugs plants etc.

[kel]

Cocaine is indigenous to the New World......so cocaine in the mummies means:

1. Egyptians traveled to the New World and back.

OR

2. Where involved with long distance trade networks with Latin America.

OR

3. Were consuming a substance which was local but shows up pharmacologicaly as cocaine today.

ALL human societies have used form of narcotic and self medication. Hunter gatherers on down.

[nebsen]

May 24, 2019 14:13:28 GMT -5 kel said:

Cocaine is indigenous to the New World......so cocaine in the mummies means:

1. Egyptians traveled to the New World and back.

OR

2. Where involved with long distance trade networks with Latin America.

OR

3. Were consuming a substance which was local but shows up pharmacologicaly as cocaine today.

ALL human societies have used form of narcotic and self medication. Hunter gatherers on down.

I think your deductions are right on..with out giving away the conclusion of this documentary..I will say this..the Western World has always maintained that travel to & from the new world was impossible.. I have stated before here along with others that the ancient world had more connections than the west wants to give credence in that they had cross connections that few want to even contemplate ..the West & the European mind thinks if they can't think of it or discover it than it is a impossible for it to even be a possibility..when I heard Ivan Van Sertima give a lector at the collage I was attending on his new book at the time called" They Came Before America"..opened up a whole new way of looking at Africa & ancient Kemet etc.. about travel outside of Africa & trade routes with in & out of the ancient world...!!!

[kel]

There is NO doubt that there was pre-Columbian contact between the New World and Old ....both European, Mediterranean/Asiatic, and African. The facts are overwhelming and any objective look at them and fundamental understanding of human nature reveals the truth.

1. Roman ( and Carthaginian) artifacts have been discovered - Sword, coins, plant species only used by Rome/Carthage.
2. Sculptures of unambiguously African/Africoid peoples and fauna indigenous to African which could have only been made by an African
3. Evidence of Norse activity.
4. Weird coincidences between ancient Egypt archtecture/pyramids and Aztec/Mexican
5. Hull Bay African skeletons info suppressed by Smithsonian and others.
.....and much much more

[Tukuler al~Takruri]

While there's absolutely no solid
evidence of or for AE connections
to anything of the Americas (neither
were noted deep sea mariners, esmo*)
the incontrovertible fact of Pacific
and Atlantic overseas travellers is
in the Americas art collected in
print by Alexander von Wuthenau's
Unexpected Faces, a must have or
must borrow item.


* esmo=else show me otherwise


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[nebsen]

[Tukuler al~Takruri]

So Egyptomania is the same as Egyptology now? OK fine.

May 24, 2019 23:23:56 GMT -5 nebsen said:

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Volume 10, Issue 64:
An Egyptian Presence in B.C. America

• Egyptian Mortuary Statuette,| Found in Northern Illinois - Wayne N. May and Frank Joseph
books.google.com/books?id=akOQXAyWvk4C&pg=PT151

Enigmatic Artifacts of Ancient America - Warren K. Moorehead

West Virginia Road to Nowhere and Lost City of Stone - David Cain

Visiting Ohio's Spruce Hill Fort - Wayne May

Spruce Hill Fort: A Birds Eye View - David A. Deal

Mexico's 40,000 Year Old Footprints Demolish "Land Bridge Theory" - David A. Deal

Ohio's Ancient Metal Cast? - William Conner

European Stone Age Monuments Found in Canada - Frank Joseph

Conference on Ancient America
Kennewick Man's Biography is written in his bones - Melanthia Mitchell

The Bow and Arrow at Burrows Cave: Another View Point - Andy Tracey

Oklahoma's Greatest Mound: Part One....Larry and Christopher Merriam

Reaction to Ancient American Publisher's "They Came From the East" article - John J. White, III

Book Reviews: Stolen Continents: 500 Hundred Years of Conquest and Resistance - Houston Chronicle

Link to more viewable pages from the article

books.google.com/books?id=akOQXAyWvk4C&pg=PT151&lpg=PT151&dq=Egyptian+Mortuary+Statuette,%7C+Found+in+Northern+Illinois+-+Wayne+N.+May+and+Frank+Joseph&source=bl&ots=5k4mLFlZ1w&sig=ACfU3U1jnT1b3zlapMgrjQdvSMh7kon76g&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwi7nfaTgLbiAhUCa60KHeLRBMYQ6AEwBHoECAoQAQ#v=onepage&q=Egyptian%20Mortuary%20Statuette%2C%7C%20Found%20in%20Northern%20Illinois%20-%20Wayne%20N.%20May%20and%20Frank%20Joseph&f=false

[nebsen]

May 25, 2019 0:39:44 GMT -5 Tukuler al~Takruri said:

So Egyptomania is the same as Egyptology now? OK fine.

May 24, 2019 23:23:56 GMT -5 nebsen said:

View Attachment

Volume 10, Issue 64:
An Egyptian Presence in B.C. America

• Egyptian Mortuary Statuette,| Found in Northern Illinois - Wayne N. May and Frank Joseph
books.google.com/books?id=akOQXAyWvk4C&pg=PT151

Enigmatic Artifacts of Ancient America - Warren K. Moorehead

West Virginia Road to Nowhere and Lost City of Stone - David Cain

Visiting Ohio's Spruce Hill Fort - Wayne May

Spruce Hill Fort: A Birds Eye View - David A. Deal

Mexico's 40,000 Year Old Footprints Demolish "Land Bridge Theory" - David A. Deal

Ohio's Ancient Metal Cast? - William Conner

European Stone Age Monuments Found in Canada - Frank Joseph

Conference on Ancient America
Kennewick Man's Biography is written in his bones - Melanthia Mitchell

The Bow and Arrow at Burrows Cave: Another View Point - Andy Tracey

Oklahoma's Greatest Mound: Part One....Larry and Christopher Merriam

Reaction to Ancient American Publisher's "They Came From the East" article - John J. White, III

Book Reviews: Stolen Continents: 500 Hundred Years of Conquest and Resistance - Houston Chronicle

Link to more viewable pages from the article

books.google.com/books?id=akOQXAyWvk4C&pg=PT151&lpg=PT151&dq=Egyptian+Mortuary+Statuette,%7C+Found+in+Northern+Illinois+-+Wayne+N.+May+and+Frank+Joseph&source=bl&ots=5k4mLFlZ1w&sig=ACfU3U1jnT1b3zlapMgrjQdvSMh7kon76g&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwi7nfaTgLbiAhUCa60KHeLRBMYQ6AEwBHoECAoQAQ#v=onepage&q=Egyptian%20Mortuary%20Statuette%2C%7C%20Found%20in%20Northern%20Illinois%20-%20Wayne%20N.%20May%20and%20Frank%20Joseph&f=false

Well, I posted it for I remember seeing the cover..just like articles, documentary on ancient China reaching America or Vikings so why not the ancient Egyptians al thou tongue in check ...but anything is possible...!! or how about this

www.davidpratt.info/americas1.htm
Also I remember seeing the documentary about the reed ship Ra in the..

[Tukuler al~Takruri]

As in my first response
von Wuthenau uses Americas sculpted art
as evidence people from across the Pacific
and Atlantic voyaged to the hemisphere c.
1500 BCE - 1500 CE. Didja follow the main
link to hi def copies of his entire book?

Whatja tink o dem 3 African sculptures I linked 4 ya?


Why not the AE? By their rather extensive
docs, they sailed solid body Lebanon
wood vessels only as far as "God's Land",
i.e. to Punt (SudanEretria) and to N Levant.
USA Navy teaches AE vs Syria to midshipmen
in its Sea Power course. AE never constructed
Chadian tech papyrus craft. No AE relics on
the S Med shores from west of Siwa clear
to old Mauretania. They never sailed even that
close. To them the Great Green was abominable
and they entered it in history only to kick
Sea People(s) butt, Æschylus' 50 Sons of
Egyptus notwithstanding nor Scota the
eponymous Egyptian queen of Scotts.


Vikings are documented sailing as far
as Greenland and Constantinople.
Chinese admiral Zheng He gang paddled
to the Swahili coast.
www.egyptsearch.com/forums/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=8;t=003391 2006


Anything is possible [in dreams]. Ancient Aliens
are Egypt's founders. They flew to Illinois and all
the locations Ancient American mag 'documents'
in its numerous incredible issues
ancientamerican.com/backissues.html
check em all out using Find in page tool query egypt.

The "I'm from Missouri" challenge stands unanswered
by Egyptology standards. Egytomania requires no more
than "Yes I believe" anything goes type 'confirmation'.


OK I return you your thread.
I said too much already josh.
If I don't watch out Askia the
Great will come get on my case.

[nebsen]

May 25, 2019 5:32:07 GMT -5 Tukuler al~Takruri said:

As in my first response
von Wuthenau uses Americas sculpted art
as evidence people from across the Pacific
and Atlantic voyaged to the hemisphere c.
1500 BCE - 1500 CE. Didja follow the main
link to hi def copies of his entire book?

Whatja tink o dem 3 African sculptures I linked 4 ya?


Why not the AE? By their rather extensive
docs, they sailed solid body Lebanon
wood vessels only as far as "God's Land",
i.e. to Punt (SudanEretria) and to N Levant.
USA Navy teaches AE vs Syria to midshipmen
in its Sea Power course. AE never constructed
Chadian tech papyrus craft. No AE relics on
the S Med shores from west of Siwa clear
to old Mauretania. They never sailed even that
close. To them the Great Green was abominable
and they entered it in history only to kick
Sea People(s) butt, Æschylus' 50 Sons of
Egyptus notwithstanding nor Scota the
eponymous Egyptian queen of Scotts.


Vikings are documented sailing as far
as Greenland and Constantinople.
Chinese admiral Zheng He gang paddled
to the Swahili coast.
www.egyptsearch.com/forums/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=8;t=003391 2006


Anything is possible [in dreams]. Ancient Aliens
are Egypt's founders. They flew to Illinois and all
the locations Ancient American mag 'documents'
in its numerous incredible issues
ancientamerican.com/backissues.html
check em all out using Find in page tool query egypt.

The "I'm from Missouri" challenge stands unanswered
by Egyptology standards. Egytomania requires no more
than "Yes I believe" anything goes type 'confirmation'.


OK I return you your thread.
I said too much already josh.
If I don't watch out Askia the
Great will come get on my case.

Good points, I have to really comb through what you have posted more.. for my time is short now..but remember Egyptology was based on many lies, distortions,cover ups, fabrications . or just being wrong ;race is a main contention with them today..even in the face of glaring facts so just because it the status quo does not always mean truthful or right !!

Some folks discount the ancient Egyptians great wealth of occult knowledge..because it can't be proven scientifically..I don't..there are many things the Western mind set can't explain..One of the things I have noticed is many of us want to be legit & fact based which is great & we should strive for that...but I know there is another aspect to ancient (Kemet) Egypt that is just as valid & important it's esoteric knowledge & view of the world..that's why the world esp the Western world is so enamored with Ancient Egypt.. grinding mummies up for thier so called medicinal aspects now that is Egyptaioma !! I read many years ago R.S. Schwallaz De Lubicz" Temple In Man" ..a friend of mine has the$ 200 dollars volumes ..now many called him & still do deranged or poppy cock Egyptology...I don't ...Now I don't buy the Alien thing.. about ancient Egypt but I know they probably knew them as ancestors which the Dogon speak off..which I have read writings about the Dogon ancient Egypt connection..which many will call nuts..some say there is a connection with the ancient Egyptians & Atlantis..could be ...I'm open to that...so lets not be so sophisticated..that we turn our noses up...at what might be in the near future correct lets be discriminating but always open at the top..

Anthony West is a alternative Egyptogist now I know he is not into the debate about race but his real understanding about ancient Egypt is about the esoteric which I feel he is on the mark..but he is laughed at by the main stream Egyptogist..I'm not laughing...