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Post by djoser-xyyman on Jan 8, 2020 20:24:25 GMT -5
Not sure the subject was broached here on ESR. But I have said many times "European" history is filled with lies. Watch the video through it's entirety over 1hr. El Cid was a lie, Guzmman was a lie Europeans have been "creating' their history for the last 400years. ALL lies. Yeah, believe that BS you read in "history" books. If you don't have the authentic book and can't read the language. DON'T BELIEVE IT!!! The Spanish Aristocrat acknowledge ancient was "Europeanize", they did this throughout Europe!!! Essentially white-washing Europe and destroying the black African influence and presence in Southern Europe. www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_rf5JV0z9Ewhen the moors ruled in europe I am not an scholar of African Studies but I know BS when I smell it and does not make sense. Continue being an apologist. Here she exposes the lies of European history. Quote:"The role of islam in the development of the European mind". " A conscious process of historical neglect". They are trying to do the same to supra-sahara.
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Post by Tukuler al~Takruri on Jan 8, 2020 21:09:09 GMT -5
But she a Euro y woman How can you believe her After u say they all liars?
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Post by djoser-xyyman on Jan 8, 2020 21:34:17 GMT -5
"There are some good Europeans". Some break rank....... But she a Euro y woman How can you believe her After u say they all liars?
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Post by djoser-xyyman on Jan 8, 2020 21:36:31 GMT -5
This video is fascinating, WOW! She is actually calling European History .....lies.
You know there wasn't a "mohammed". Mohammed is a fictional character. It is obvious Islam or the practice is indigenous Southern Europe. Islam existed in Europe before Mohammed was ever ..."born" so how could he have been responsible for Islam. Look at the timeline. You people need to start using your "brain". Another lie.
Looking at the video I am more convince Christopher columbus probable never existed either. More Lies.
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Post by djoser-xyyman on Jan 8, 2020 21:54:44 GMT -5
why would Isabella and Ferdinand dress as Moors and be buried as Moor unless they were ......Moors. Question everything that does not make sense.
The old Aristocrat lady in the interview confirms she is a descendant of Moors that has been converted and Europeanized. And talks about how and why they did it. She exposes some of the lies.
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Post by kel on Jan 8, 2020 23:33:10 GMT -5
why would Isabella and Ferdinand dress as Moors and be buried as Moor unless they were ......Moors. Question everything that does not make sense. The old Aristocrat lady in the interview confirms she is a descendant of Moors that has been converted and Europeans. And talks about how and why they did it. She exposes some of the lies. Mike111 believed from the swarthy looks and features of Isabella and Ferdinand that they had black blood. Due to the state of 700 years of occupation and warfare, there must have been a number of shifting alliances and cross conversions .... intermarriages arranged both common and noble etc. (Othello based on a 1508 tale was a cautionary warning by racists)....and not just Spain, but all of the Meditteranean: France, Italy, etc.. Another thing that is weird: "Colombus" was at the turn-over of Grenada from the Moors and left shortly thereafter for the New World ..... why was he there ? what was he looking for ? experienced personnel ? tools ? tech ? maps ? perhaps the Moors had already made the voyage but guarded the info and were forced to turn it over. ( There is a legit moorish report of having sailed into the Atlantic and returned with goods etc.)
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Post by kel on Jan 8, 2020 23:44:54 GMT -5
This video is fascinating, WOW! She is actually calling European History .....lies. You know there wasn't a "mohammed". Mohammed is a fictional character. It is obvious Islam or the practice is indigenous Southern Europe. Islam existed in Europe before Mohammed was ever ..."born" so how could he have been responsible for Islam. Look at the timeline. You people need to start using your "brain". Another lie. Looking at the video I am more convince Christopher columbus probable never existed either. More Lies. Yes, "Mohammed" is an honorific like "The Christ".....means the anointed one or the blessed one....something like that. He may have existed as a minor warlord, but historical Muhammed like historical Jesus probably never exited as one person. Furthermore, the Koran was written a couple hundred years after him. He is only mentioned a handful of times in the Koran...literally. The Koran was written by Syriac Christians and/or Jews and sponsored by the Abbasid caliphate in a bid at political unity and legitimacy upon overthrowing the Ummayyads.
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Post by anansi on Jan 9, 2020 5:31:34 GMT -5
why would Isabella and Ferdinand dress as Moors and be buried as Moor unless they were ......Moors. Question everything that does not make sense. The old Aristocrat lady in the interview confirms she is a descendant of Moors that has been converted and Europeans. And talks about how and why they did it. She exposes some of the lies. For the same reasons virtually all modern African leaders consistently dressed like their former Colonial over lords, possible exception, the now dead Gaddaffi, who either got dolled up in military uniform or African garb..Btw those stupid wigs ex-colonial lawyers and judges have wear at great cost to their national budget..same reason. But yeah we did cover that vid some yes back, interesting stuff indeed.
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Post by kel on Jan 9, 2020 10:47:24 GMT -5
Good Point
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Post by Tukuler al~Takruri on Jan 9, 2020 10:55:55 GMT -5
Social Media is conducive to mind rot.
What in that video that's factual wasn't already taught by JA Rogers in Sex and Race v1 and Nature Knows No Colorline back in the 50's or even better in the vanSertima edition Golden Age of the Moor featuring 14 Black Scholars, and African Presence in Early Europe.
Y'all can invest 90 minutes of valuable time on this y womenz video but not one minute in reading what our own wrote to hand along our generations
Jackson and Clarke and them were so so right, unlike any other people in the world Blacks do not honor care for nor respect their own historians.
The lauding of this video over Black Scholar historians is the proof.
You'd rather watch a yte person's video than read a blk person's book or article
SMH you deserve the coming storm
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Post by djoser-xyyman on Jan 9, 2020 14:06:27 GMT -5
Bad analogy Brada. These Africans are messed up mentally. They worship their colonizers. They wish they were Europeans and mimic their colonial masters. Isabella and Ferdinand hated the Moors according to some "historians". Spain and maybe Southern Italy did their best to destroy or obliterate their African past. All evidence now indicate Africans were there since the early Neolithic and is responsible for settlement and development of southern European civilization since the Neolithic why would Isabella and Ferdinand dress as Moors and be buried as Moor unless they were ......Moors. Question everything that does not make sense. The old Aristocrat lady in the interview confirms she is a descendant of Moors that has been converted and Europeans. And talks about how and why they did it. She exposes some of the lies. For the same reasons virtually all modern African leaders consistently dressed like their former Colonial over lords, possible exception, the now dead Gaddaffi, who either got dolled up in military uniform or African garb..Btw those stupid wigs ex-colonial lawyers and judges have wear at great cost to their national budget..same reason. But yeah we did cover that vid some yes back, interesting stuff indeed.
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Post by djoser-xyyman on Jan 9, 2020 14:11:01 GMT -5
The video struck a nerve with me because I have been saying this for years and here comes a video supporting my point of view. What happened is obvious. History was deliberately rewritten and falsified to remove African presence in Europe. And demonize African. The "northerners" now control the world and now control the narrative....the lies.
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Post by kel on Jan 9, 2020 15:20:08 GMT -5
............SMH you deserve the coming storm Calm down with the hysterics. The video itself is well done, informative, entertaining and most importantly...clearly leaves the door open. more people saying more things in more ways cannot be a bad thing. And everyone knows that the "afrocentrics" either said all this already or raised the questions.
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Post by Tukuler al~Takruri on Jan 9, 2020 18:08:10 GMT -5
And what you need to do is educate the unknowing on ongoing Black Scholarship. It's obvious the OP had no idea Black Scholars have covered this from before he was born till he was teenager & a young man too uninterested in African & Blk Studies and still never read any of them as man in or approaching his prime. No surprise he thought this was news just as he thought he came up with the fact there was no demic baNtu migration from the Bight of Biafra to the East African Coast Me? I ain't post diddly bout no afrocentrics Those are Black Scholars of African Studies Yte media don't dictate terminology to me www.theblackscholar.org/You call bona fide credentialed Black Scholars what you refuse to label that yte lady with while you claim they're all the same infos VanSertima'd punch you in the mouth if you ever dared call him afrocentric to his face. "Open your eyes close your mouth and maybe you'll learn something" as I was told when beginning to discuss Africana with my betters these many decades ago. I heeded and so was able to keep up and surpass some of my teachers. if u blk and don't receive and pass along a tradition from generation to generation then yes you deserve the coming storm A nation w/o it's past history is like a tree w/o roots. Black people will never know themself until their [arse] against the wall. ~ the honorable Marcus Mosiah Garvey ~ (the most successful organizer in the west)
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Post by Tukuler al~Takruri on Jan 9, 2020 18:43:03 GMT -5
And what about the mentality of you Black Americans You worship your former enslavers. You speak their language kiss the arse of his god (as Melvin vanPeebles put it) taken on their surnames (oops enslaver or paddy roller might be your paternal) eat their cuisine wear their clothes purse your lips raise yr 4mer enslavers children have no land of your own yr internal economy completely out of control and generally refuse to do for self fully dependent on old former enslaver and new, mostly Arab, would be enslavers so really what's the difference Stop hating the 75% of your ancestry Y'all in just as bad or worse shape Bad analogy Brada. These Africans are messed up mentally. They worship their colonizers. They wish they were Europeans and mimic their colonial masters. Isabella and Ferdinand hated the Moors according to some "historians". Spain and maybe Southern Italy did their best to destroy or obliterate their African past. All evidence now indicate Africans were there since the early Neolithic and is responsible for settlement and development of southern European civilization since the Neolithic For the same reasons virtually all modern African leaders consistently dressed like their former Colonial over lords, possible exception, the now dead Gaddaffi, who either got dolled up in military uniform or African garb..Btw those stupid wigs ex-colonial lawyers and judges have wear at great cost to their national budget..same reason. But yeah we did cover that vid some yes back, interesting stuff indeed.
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