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Post by azrur on Jul 1, 2014 11:20:23 GMT -5
The power of the computer at … Seems like everyone in Europe knows the man is part Berber/African. And in a few hours I found this out. But you… Quotes: “As to Cristiano Ronaldo, it is not very traceable for untrained eyes, but he looks kinda off - his African ancestry was stronger as a child” quote “It's his father's side that has negroid admixture” quote “ 1. No way, Cristiano is at most 7-10% (considering Cape Verdeans are on average mulattoes, and his great-grandmother was cape Verdian) , so with a white wife his kid would look moslty white. Also, Cristiano doesn't look full portuguese, some people in Spain call him 'gitano' (gypsy) unaware of his real ancestry, but based on his looks. “ Quote: Cristiano Ronaldo himself is Madeiran Portuguese with one Cape Verdean great grandmother. The baby is likely under 10% black, because Cristiano Ronaldo at most could be 12-15% black and that's assuming his great grandmother was fully African and he has a few percents extra from Madeira……, other times you are not as eager to take their (europeans) words for things no? one of them is even crying about how they insult the gypsies boohoo the gypsy were invented by the turks you talk about so much to ruin the lives of serbian just like they invented NATO to bomb them i wouldnt take the european word for thing either especially the english but if you say so he is half black i have heard that before never berber do berbers live in the cape verde? !! it seem like you are emotionally invested into this no? do you just not like the guy?
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Post by djoser-xyyman on Jul 1, 2014 11:43:45 GMT -5
Me! emotional? Tell that to my EX.
To the onlookers. Cape Verde and Medreiria are Islands off the coast of Africa/Europe. The indigenous populations are genetically related to African Berbers on the mainland. I speculated that Ronaldo was part Berber when I saw his photo on the Portuguese team. Knowing Portugal is extremely close to Africa. I was correct in my speculation. His morphometric traits seemed Berber. This has been confirmed. Seems like I can pick out a Berber in a crowd. LOL! Ronaldo has much more Berber ancestry than Ziidane. If Zidane has any!!. Zidane’s parents were probably Ottoman Turks who occupied Africa from the 15
18th Century. They are not native and they did not speak the Kabyle language. They were devout muslims. They had no cultural connection with African Berbers,.
Berbers in pictures.
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Post by azrur on Jul 1, 2014 12:08:14 GMT -5
Me! emotional? Tell that to my EX. To the onlookers. Cape Verde and Medreiria are Islands off the coast of Africa/Europe. The indigenous populations are genetically related to African Berbers on the mainland. I speculated that Ronaldo was part Berber when I saw his photo on the Portuguese team. Knowing Portugal is extremely close to Africa. I was correct in my speculation. His morphometric traits seemed Berber. This has been confirmed. Seems like I can pick out a Berber in a crowd. LOL! Ronaldo has much more Berber ancestry than Ziidane. If Zidane has any!!. Zidane’s parents were probably Ottoman Turks who occupied Africa from the 15 18th Century. They are not native and they did not speak the Kabyle language. They were devout muslims. They had no cultural connection with African Berbers,. Berbers in pictures. cape verde is far from coast of europe it is off coast of mauritania and both it and madeira were uninhabit until the portuguese find it you still have not confirm any berber ancestry just quotes speculating black and negroid (nowhere do they use word berber or north african? those are words they use black and negroid in your quotes) who do you quote these people from? ottoman turks occupy a few cities on the coast they never occupy the bejaia province zidane's parents is from and they still speak the turk languages with their turk names in the cities they controlled but never did they control the kabyle lands hmm before you have said before that omar mukhtar son was grandson and turkish which is false as well hmm are you trying to trick me?
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Post by djoser-xyyman on Jul 1, 2014 12:48:27 GMT -5
uninhabited? really?
I hope some of you understand the significance of this,,If I need to explain let me know.
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transition at np 16163 (Rando et al. 1999). ALTHOUGH!!! the presence of Guanches in Madeira is well documented, we could not find the particular “Canary” haplotype in our Madeiran sample. Notably, all haplotypes with an exact match between Madeira and the Canaries also appear in mainland individuals, thus rendering it difficult to estimate the gene flow among these islands that had tight historical contacts. The frequency of the typical North-African haplogroup U6 is significantly (P<0.0001) higher in Canaries (14%) than in Madeira (3.9%). From the U6 haplotypes found in Madeira and Acores, only one (H141) shows an exact match in Iberia, not surprisingly in the north of Portugal the region concentrating almost all U6s in Portugal (Gonzalez et al. 2003; Pereira et al. 2000). U6 is well represented in the Canary Islands, but no exact matches with Madeira and Acores were found, suggesting a parallel gene flow from North Africa rather than an introduction via the Canary Islands. The relatively high proportion of matches between Madeira and the Acores can be explained as a parallel process of settlement or by direct gene flow between islands.
Translation: You records are wrong or who were introduced to Madeira were not Guanches carry U61b but Guanches ……
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Post by djoser-xyyman on Jul 1, 2014 12:49:01 GMT -5
I have all the bases covered my man. The lies are being exposed.
Are Berbers also Arabs?
Quote from Biograohy on Zidane:
“Unlike his friends, however, Zidane simply focused on the game with complete determination and refused to fall for other distractions. Being a beur (as French children of Arab immigrants are called) usually involves a lifelong struggle.”
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Post by azrur on Jul 1, 2014 17:03:40 GMT -5
uninhabited? really? I hope some of you understand the significance of this,,If I need to explain let me know. -------- Quote: transition at np 16163 (Rando et al. 1999). ALTHOUGH!!! the presence of Guanches in Madeira is well documented, we could not find the particular “Canary” haplotype in our Madeiran sample. Notably, all haplotypes with an exact match between Madeira and the Canaries also appear in mainland individuals, thus rendering it difficult to estimate the gene flow among these islands that had tight historical contacts. The frequency of the typical North-African haplogroup U6 is significantly (P<0.0001) higher in Canaries (14%) than in Madeira (3.9%). From the U6 haplotypes found in Madeira and Acores, only one (H141) shows an exact match in Iberia, not surprisingly in the north of Portugal the region concentrating almost all U6s in Portugal (Gonzalez et al. 2003; Pereira et al. 2000). U6 is well represented in the Canary Islands, but no exact matches with Madeira and Acores were found, suggesting a parallel gene flow from North Africa rather than an introduction via the Canary Islands. The relatively high proportion of matches between Madeira and the Acores can be explained as a parallel process of settlement or by direct gene flow between islands. Translation: You records are wrong or who were introduced to Madeira were not Guanches carry U61b but Guanches …… The geographic accounts of Pliny the Elder and of Strabo mention the Fortunate Isles but do not report anything about their populations. An account of the Guanche population may have been made around 1150 CE by the Arab geographer Muhammad al-Idrisi in the Nuzhatul Mushtaq, a book he wrote for King Roger II of Sicily, in which al-Idrisi reports a journey in the Atlantic Ocean made by the Mugharrarin, a family of Andalusian seafarers from Lisbon, Portugal. The only surviving version of this book, kept at the Bibliothèque Nationale de France, and first translated by Pierre Amédée Jaubert, reports that, after having reached an area of "sticky and stinking waters" (probably the Sargasso Sea), the Mugharrarin moved back and first reached an uninhabited Island (Madeira or Hierro), where they found "a huge quantity of sheep, which its meat was bitter and inedible" and, then, "continued southward" and reached another island where they were soon surrounded by barks and brought to "a village whose inhabitants were often fair haired with long and flaxen hair and the women of a rare beauty". Among the villagers, one did speak Arabic and asked them where they came from. Then the king of the village ordered them to bring them back to the continent where they were surprised to be welcomed by Berbers.from La première géographie de l'Occident by muhammad al idrisi yes madeira may have been having the guanches on there but by the time portuguese find it they already left why else is no mentions of them made hmm? the spanish made mentions of them when they find them on the canary islands yah? why not portuguese on madeira? and how about the other island you mention cape verde hmm? you said it was right off iberia coast it is all the way down next to mauritania I have all the bases covered my man. The lies are being exposed. Are Berbers also Arabs? Quote from Biograohy on Zidane: “Unlike his friends, however, Zidane simply focused on the game with complete determination and refused to fall for other distractions. Being a beur (as French children of Arab immigrants are called) usually involves a lifelong struggle.” so now what is he then turk or arab? who is this biography? did he himself write it? someone who knew him? in his interview with guardian he say "I am proud that they come from Kabylie. It is a special place and my roots there are important to me." that is quote from man himself who is your biography from hmm?
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Post by djoser-xyyman on Jul 1, 2014 20:44:18 GMT -5
You bring up a very important point.
Did he ever say he was a Berber? He does NOT acknowledge they are Amazigh. Apparently the family was financially well off...meaning they may be the Turkish elite of Algeria. Come to think of it. Fanon mentioned the elite Turks leaving Algeria going to France during the War.
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"in his interview with guardian he say "I am proud that they come from Kabylie. It is a special place and my roots there are important to me."
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Post by djoser-xyyman on Jul 1, 2014 20:56:08 GMT -5
You know what...now that we discussed it ...More and more it looks like Zidane is NOT Berber but elite Turk What was the circumstances his wealthy parents left Algeria. What year did the Algeria war end? Looks like his wealthy parents left during or immediately after the war. He was born in 1972 in France.
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Post by djoser-xyyman on Jul 1, 2014 21:01:34 GMT -5
Looks like you completely misunderstood the genetic piece. Genetics don't lie. It can be misunderstood. History books lie!!!!
The genetic evidence show that the Mederia Island was inhabited when the Portuguese invaded. You totally missed that.
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Post by azrur on Jul 1, 2014 22:26:16 GMT -5
You bring up a very important point. Did he ever say he was a Berber? He does NOT acknowledge they are Amazigh. Apparently the family was financially well off...meaning they may be the Turkish elite of Algeria. Come to think of it. Fanon mentioned the elite Turks leaving Algeria going to France during the War. You know what...now that we discussed it ...More and more it looks like Zidane is NOT Berber but elite Turk What was the circumstances his wealthy parents left Algeria. What year did the Algeria war end? Looks like his wealthy parents left during or immediately after the war. He was born in 1972 in France. they left year before war starts i have said before the turks how you tell a turk? they live in the 3 cities they have the turk names like karaturki as for him being wealthy his father was a security guard at night and a factory worker in the day and never have i heard of him being wealthy parents just compared to the extreme poverty of the rest of north marseille you know the place where they have riots when their team loses soccer match eh? all the famous people move to france matoub benzema zahra bouajila etc algeria junta deports them all over there when they get too trouble maker
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Post by azrur on Jul 1, 2014 22:26:42 GMT -5
Looks like you completely misunderstood the genetic piece. Genetics don't lie. It can be misunderstood. History books lie!!!! The genetic evidence show that the Mederia Island was inhabited when the Portuguese invaded. You totally missed that. if you say so i do not know anything about the genetic so i will take your word for it
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Post by djoser-xyyman on Jul 2, 2014 6:51:18 GMT -5
Just as I thought. Sometimes I surprise even myself on how good I am.
So they emigrated the year of the War. Meaning they were previldged. Do you know how these things work? They probably lived in the Kabyle Village but were NOT Kabyle. The family obviously had the "opportunity" to leave and not be caught-up in the War as the poor native Berbers.
Maybe you should research the circumstances on "how and why" they left. My money is on they being Turkish elite class and being part or supporters of the oppressive ruling regime that probably brutilized the natives Berbers.
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Post by azrur on Jul 2, 2014 14:41:54 GMT -5
Just as I thought. Sometimes I surprise even myself on how good I am. so do you have one on the cape verde island as well? So they emigrated the year of the War. Meaning they were previldged. Do you know how these things work? They probably lived in the Kabyle Village but were NOT Kabyle. The family obviously had the "opportunity" to leave and not be caught-up in the War as the poor native Berbers. Maybe you should research the circumstances on "how and why" they left. My money is on they being Turkish elite class and being part or supporters of the oppressive ruling regime that probably brutilized the natives Berbers. year before don't know the how i reckon the why is same as everyone else that left eh? where they live in france doesnt seem like a privilege origin to me hmm which regime would you be talking about? because the french one was far better than arab one that follow
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Post by snakepit on Jul 5, 2014 13:26:52 GMT -5
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Post by anastasiaescrava on Jul 5, 2014 17:31:57 GMT -5
Everybody knows about that already. We already done numerous threads on NA's on Egyptsearch about it. Instead of focusing on what they aren't, What we are focusing on are those who we believe "look" closer to their indigenous roots.
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