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Post by truthteacher2007 on Jan 27, 2014 14:42:36 GMT -5
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Post by azrur on Jan 27, 2014 18:56:21 GMT -5
 i think most of them still look like that today? |
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Post by truthteacher2007 on Jan 28, 2014 23:14:04 GMT -5
i think most of them still look like that today? Except for the skin color. |
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Post by azrur on Jan 28, 2014 23:48:39 GMT -5
i think most of them still look like that today? Except for the skin color. maybe if you go farther north? the greeks and a lot of southern spain and italy are that dark |
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Post by azrur on Jan 28, 2014 23:48:58 GMT -5
some of them are anyway
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Post by anansi on Jan 29, 2014 1:24:11 GMT -5
Yes but Greeks also carries substantial relatively recent African Dna www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11260506 A study from 2001 hope Xyyman don't kick me for posting such an old study..  This may account for some of their darkness. |
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Post by truthteacher2007 on Jan 29, 2014 10:16:05 GMT -5
Except for the skin color. maybe if you go farther north? the greeks and a lot of southern spain and italy are that dark Some are, but it's not the average person. It's the exception rather than the rule. |
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Post by azrur on Jan 30, 2014 20:26:32 GMT -5
Yes but Greeks also carries substantial relatively recent African Dna www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11260506 A study from 2001 hope Xyyman don't kick me for posting such an old study.. This may account for some of their darkness. The study yes it also state in it the Japanese are same as Western and Southern Africans I would not trust that because they are the only people that are saying such i think this video goes over that one of the genetics the DNA studies and other ones also |
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Post by azrur on Jan 30, 2014 22:15:58 GMT -5
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Post by zarahan on Jan 30, 2014 23:06:37 GMT -5
The study yes it also state in it the Japanese are same as Western and Southern Africans I would not trust that because they are the only people that are saying such The study never says that Japanese and Southern Africans are the same- just that they cluster based on the HLA analysis. This clustering could be due to similar arthritis conditions in both populations. The rest of the HLA analysis remains credible within the context of its objectives and measurement. 
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Post by truthteacher2007 on Jan 30, 2014 23:11:14 GMT -5
Those aren't dark skinned people. |
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Post by azrur on Jan 30, 2014 23:31:26 GMT -5
Those aren't dark skinned people. some of them are pale yes but if you look at the ones like the ilias kasidaris and pavlos fyssass and the big man they are dark as your picture if you compare them to white peoples in the northern europes they have very different looks   compared to the pale and tan ones they have different skin tones in the cavemen times who would know those pale greeks they might be as dark as your picture man because today in the sedentary lifestyle you have the people not going outside as much but when you are caveman hunting all day you are be outside more i ask in other thread you say that tuareg would be considered black in the US yet many tuareg are lighter than the greeks   so i ask you consider the greek to be light skinned but the tuareg would be black? you have to look at the relatives you see a person from russia he might look at arab and think this man is very dark and a person from andman island he might look at arab and think this man is very light you see? |
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Post by azrur on Jan 30, 2014 23:44:46 GMT -5
The study yes it also state in it the Japanese are same as Western and Southern Africans I would not trust that because they are the only people that are saying such The study never says that Japanese and Southern Africans are the same- just that they cluster based on the HLA analysis. This clustering could be due to similar arthritis conditions in both populations. The rest of the HLA analysis remains credible within the context of its objectives and measurement. if you look at the video it talk about that and it says other of these genetics DNA study contradict this one what are we to make of this? who is right who is wrong? how do we tell? |
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Post by asante on Jan 31, 2014 5:56:49 GMT -5
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Post by truthteacher2007 on Jan 31, 2014 16:01:43 GMT -5
Those aren't dark skinned people. some of them are pale yes but if you look at the ones like the ilias kasidaris and pavlos fyssass and the big man they are dark as your picture if you compare them to white peoples in the northern europes they have very different looks compared to the pale and tan ones they have different skin tones in the cavemen times who would know those pale greeks they might be as dark as your picture man because today in the sedentary lifestyle you have the people not going outside as much but when you are caveman hunting all day you are be outside more i ask in other thread you say that tuareg would be considered black in the US yet many tuareg are lighter than the greeks so i ask you consider the greek to be light skinned but the tuareg would be black? you have to look at the relatives you see a person from russia he might look at arab and think this man is very dark and a person from andman island he might look at arab and think this man is very light you see? First of all, take into consideration that the picture associated with this article is an artists drawing, not a photograph of an actual person. What the article is saying is that the European remains had the genetic marker for skin color that is significantly darker than modern Europeans. None of the pictures you showed are of dark skinned people. Modern Europeans are not dark skinned people. Although southern Europeans tend to be darker than Northern Europeans, unless they have recent African or Roma ancestry, they don't have tropical skin tones. As for the tuaregs, I thought you would understand by now that being black in America does not necessarily have anything to do with skin color. Many blacks in the US are actually much paler than most tuaregs. Dont you remember the pictures of Adam Clayton Powell, Leena Horn and Walter White I showed you. But if you want to focus on features, then yes, it is true that most Tuaregs have the exact same skin tones and features of lighter skinned Afro Americans and biracial people. Although there may be some who are very light, their features would cause them to stand out. So, to answer the question once and for all, since you still don't get it.... Racial classifications are not based on science, but on politics and cultural perspectives. A person may be considered Black in one society and White in another. For example, in the United States, I'm considered black, in Egypt I'm not. In Latin America I'm considered a mulatto, in many parts of West Africa I'd be considered white. In the United States blackness is based on ploitics and prejudice. Any person who has any degree of known African Sub Saharan ancestry is considered black, regardless of what they actually look like. Therefore, if you are 100% African descent you are black, if you are a combination of African and any other race or races, you are black. If you look 100% European, but your great grand mother or father was considered black, then you too are black. Bi-racial, multi-racial people, such as Creols are all just considered a type of black person In areas where there are very few black people, often times a person can pretend to be "white", if they are light enough. Unless they tell people they have African ancestry no one would know. That's why the government would put a person's race on their birth certificate and other legal documents. They were afraid of people who looked European, but who had African blood. This is white supremacy. The idea that any amount of African blood made a person inferior to a pure blooded European. They saw non white blood, especially African blood as being a disease tand that they had to protect society from becoming contaminated. Therefore, in areas that had high populations of people of African heritage, you found people of all skin tones and features. Anyone who did not look like a 100% pure blooded Western European was considered a nigger. So people who look at the people in this video and notice how many of them look like North Africans and you tell me what people in Texas, or Alabama would think of them? Compare this woman to the average Tuareg or Berber.  If I put her in hejab and a djelaba you would swear she was Maghrebiya, or Amazigh. So if she was considered too black by White Americans to swim in the same pool with white people, what do you think they would say about any of the Tuaregs you've shown? Do you get it now? |
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This may account for some of their darkness.
