KEMET VS ISRAEL

[Tukuler al~Takruri]

Yes, as befits a moon goddes,
Sarah was white per normative
Hebrew texts as well as among
Qumram sectaries who did not
conform to mass recognized
Judaism like Pharisee sages
or Sadducee Zadok priesthood.

Laban the Aramean was also
white and of despicable trait.

Biblical leprosy turned skin pink
white and hair yellow. Its cause
believed from bad actions,
slander in particular.

As a curse the Hebrews believed
leprosy congenital. Yellow haired
pink whites were originally seen
as clean (leprous from head to
toe) lepers.

Gehazi and descendants except
by other physical features were
indistinguishable from Germans
the sons of Ashkenaz the son of
Japheth who was blessed white
all over but lacking blonde hair.
-- Yapheth is from a Hebrew root
-- one of whose meanings is fair
-- as in beautiful as well as bright
-- in colour or intelligence

Certain E Africans and Indians
regarded white Europeans as
lepers also, in this was just a
few centuries ago.

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According to Genesis 12: 11, Sarah was of "fair" appearance in Egypt.

The significance is her skin was light ("fair") and distinguishable to the dark Egyptians, hence the dead sea scrolls describes her white skin.


- Goldenberg, 2009

The "white" probably isn't as light as a milk-white complexion like northern Europeans, but a very pale brown; this is discussed by Goldenberg. p. 83/

Sarah's complexion was this-


Opposed to this-

[Tukuler al~Takruri]

Though light brown can be called white
as in Hassaniya Arabic, Sarah as Moon
goddess would be bright like the moon
glowing with light. Outside of belief
systems Sarah does not exist.

Archaeology doesn't remotely begin
to confirm Torah personages.

Unless I'm mistaken Omri in the Prophets/
Nebhi'iym is the first non-religiomythic
Hebrew personage verifiable outside of
faith.

[anansi]

Sarah is brought to Pharaoh and Pharaoh makes
Sarah Abraham, Octateuque , XI century

Byzantine Greeks as they viewed how the patriarchal family might have looked, comparison  to the Pharaoh and his court.

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Mar 4, 2016 11:00:28 GMT -5 Tukuler al~Takruri said:

Though light brown can be called white
as in Hassaniya Arabic, Sarah as Moon
goddess would be bright like the moon
glowing with light. Outside of belief
systems Sarah does not exist.

Archaeology doesn't remotely begin
to confirm Torah personages.

Unless I'm mistaken Omri in the Prophets/
Nebhi'iym is the first non-religiomythic
Hebrew personage verifiable outside of
faith.

It doesn't matter if she was a real person or not, the significance is it shows what colour the ancient Jews associated with feminine beauty. Jewish woman traditionally stayed in doors, and it was considered bad for them to darken by the sun i.e. skin tanning. This was common for all ancient cultures across the Mediterranean, including especially Greeks.

Song of Solomon 1:

biblehub.com/songs/1-6.htm

"Do not stare at me because I am dark, because I am darkened by the sun. My mother's sons were angry with me and made me take care of the vineyards; my own vineyard I had to neglect."

Obviously this passage alone rules out the Black Hebrew Israelite idea the ancient Jews were black because people with dark or even medium brown skin shades cannot tan - they're already too dark. How many black women are darkened by the sun to the extent it is clearly observable? Black people don't tan.

[Tukuler al~Takruri]

Religiomythic Sarah was white because
the moon is white. Intelligent and astute
readers forgive me repeating myself also
as I reiterate white skin was associated
with the curse of leprosy.

The Pirqe de Ribbi Eli`ezer explicitly
www.egyptsearch.com/forums/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=8;t=008473#000042
says Shem was blessed BLACK &
BEAUTIFUL and it is only a black
who can tan black as must already
be dark brown. Whites simply tan
red, peel, and blister. Whites never
tan black not even the ones who
die of Cancer from repeated tans.

Blacks have summer and winter
complexions and even as far back
as classic Greece blacks' colour is
noted as Sun driven (Phaeton myth).

Medieval rabbis in Europe claimed
an exaggerated plum black purity
going as far as castegating Euros
to be born from menstruous coitus
thus pink skinned from the blood.

All my sources are authentic Jewish
sources from inside the accepted and
traditional works obtainable from any
reputable yeshiva stack or other
repository of Judaic sages' seforim.

Masekhet Nega'iym registers Israel's
Roman era complexion as boxwood
colored and brown like dates whose
juice yields honey. One of the reasons
the most popular Roman opinion was
Jews ultimate source was Kepheus'
Tel Aviv Æthiopia. Another opinion
though not popular among the public
was Egyptian origin and so in Greek
Scripture we see Paul mistaken for
Egyptian.

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There is no black in Song of Solomon 1: 6. The word is shecharchoret, black-ish. The add on "ish" is significant and is why many Bible translations instead have swarthy or dusky a translation, not black, and why Goldenberg considers it a hue lighter than dark brown.

biblehub.com/hebrew/7840.htm

Regarding Pirqe de Ribbi Eli`ezer, the text was redacted up to the 8th century. You are showing confirmation bias by cherry-picking this out all the other sources (most are earlier than the 8th century) which describes the ancient Jews as non-black -- all these are covered by Goldenberg in his book. The Jews saw themselves as intermediate between black and white, so light brown and their idea of feminine beauty was the palest of light brown ("white", but not milky-white like Scandinavians) like the Jewish female in the photo above.

And there's a 2nd century description of Paul. He's described as having a long (stereotypical Jewish nose) and blue eyes. Hardly a description compatible with a black man.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acts_of_Paul_and_Thecla

[Tukuler al~Takruri]

My sources are all authenic Hebrew
texts valid and approved by Jewish
authorities and were issued between
~500 BCE and ~1250 CE from the
United Kingdom of Judah and Israel
composition The Song of Songs
which is Solomon's famous phrase
"Black and Beautiful" still sung
by today's Jews worldwide.

This irks many to no end fantasying
a white people able to tan black and
most damning to the white British
Israelite and Identity types is the
holy Torah describes the G_d
given curse of leprosy as
* pink white skin and
* yellow hair.

also noted were non-Jewish observations
of Roman era Judaean skin colour, ethnic
origins and affiliation.

The Jewish self identifying skin colour of
that time recorded in the normative and
still authoritative Mishnah Talmud is
boxwood and date honey.


See now imported Levantine boxwood
sculpted into a north Sudani (Kushite)
this is the average complexion of 2nd
century Palestinian Jews who still
called Shem black and beautiful in the
8th century while 13th century French
Jews exaggerated their blackness as plum.

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Native peoples from Mediterranean climates, can tan blackish - a fairly dark brown - which is what Song of Solomon 1: 6 is describing. shecharchoret is not black, but blackish, hence it is usually translated dusky.



The fantasy/delusion is thinking Song of Solomon 1: 6 is describing a black person, becoming even darker. This weird argument not even found in any scholarship.

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The 2nd century source you mention describes Jews the colour of a boxwood tree:

"The Jews are like the boxwood tree, neither black nor white but in between."

Boxwood tree bark is a light brown.

Note also this source specifically states the Jews were not black.

Here's what boxwood looks like-



A lot lighter than the sculpture you posted.

[Tukuler al~Takruri]

True to white british israelite / identity
brainlessness failing to disconfirm
neither Paul mistaken for Egyptian,
Mesekketh Negai'iym, nor the
boxwood imported from Palestine
sculpted into the form of a Kushite.

Not only the Judaeans but millions of
blacks fit within boxwood's spectrum.
link to full range of boxwood flesh tones


www.vads.ac.uk/images/ARTWORLD/medium/00032d3.jpg

Title statuette of servant girl, carrying an unguent jar
Collection Artworld: Oriental Museum
Artist Bes, Dwarf-God
Date 1370 BCE (circa)
Description Cosmetic container in the form of a finely carved boxwood statuette of a naked servant girl walking and carrying a large jar on her left hip. The statuette stands on a rectangular wooden pedestal. Her head is shaved except for one lock of hair painted on the right side of the head. The right ear is missing and there is a small circular hole on both sides of the head. There is an ivory mushroom-shaped stud in the left ear lobe. The face is finely carved and painted using black and white paint. There is a necklace, incised and painted, tied at the back of the neck with a pendant in the shape of the god Bes. A girdle is painted in gold around the waist; some of the paint has worn away. The girl is carrying a large jar with both hands and balanced on her left hip. The lid of the jar pivots open; it has a small ivory stud on the lid and another on the side of the jar. The jar would have been used to store cosmetics.
Description Source Birch, S. 1880. Catalogue of the Collection of Egyptian Antiquities at Alnwick Castle, London: R. Clay, Sons, and Taylor, p. 98
Cultural Context Egyptian
Id Number Former Accession N752
Location Creation Site Misr
Location Current Repository The Oriental Museum
Subject sculpture in the round, statuette, woman, cosmetica, god, costume
Measurements 65 x 139 x 82 mm
Context The statuette is thought to have come from the tomb of Meryptah, Sheikh `Abd El-Qurna. Meryptah was the chancellor and chief priest of Amun under Amenhotep III.
Relation References Harris, J.R. 1983. Some Well Known Egyptian Pieces Reconsidered. Arts of Asia, 1983, vol. 13, no. 6, p. 78-79

Hart, G. 1986. A Dictionary of Egyptian Gods and Goddesses. London New York: Routledge & Kegan Paul, p. 58-61

Kozloff, A.P. 1992. I
Rights Oriental Museum, University of Durham, Durham, 2002. All Rights reserved
Rights Owner OM
Style Period New Kingdom, 18th Dynasty, Amenhotep III/Amenophis III/Nebmaatre
Work Type statuette

[Tukuler al~Takruri]

Aramaic Bible in Plain English - Acts 21:37-39

And when he approached to enter the encampment, Paulus said to the Chiliarch, “If you allow me, I shall speak with you”, but he said to him, “Do you know Greek?”

“Are you not that Egyptian who before these days made a disturbance and led four thousand criminal men to the wilderness?”

Paulus said to him, “I am a man, a Jew from Tarsus, the notable city of Qiliqia in which I was born. I beg of you, let me speak to the people.

[anansi]

The range of types living in the Levant during the time of Ramses 
While Jews or Hebrews don't have to be uniform in complexion it is not out of the question that like other Levantines they could and did shade from yellowish to chocolety or even darker, black people are in no way unusual for the area from ancient times to the present, although numbers may ebb and flow, even if one goes as far back as one branch of their supposed original home the city of Ur in Sumer.
Tacitus concerning the Judeans.

Many, again, say that they were a race of Ethiopian origin, who in the time of king Cepheus were driven by fear and hatred of their neighbors to seek a new dwelling-place.

Strabo 

As for Judaea, its western extremities towards Casius are occupied by the Idumaeans and by the lake. The Idumaeans are Nabataeans, but owing to a sedition they were banished from there, joined the Judaeans, and shared in the same customs with them. The greater part of the region near the sea is occupied by Lake Sirbonis and by the country continuous with the lake as far as Jerusalem; for this city is also near the sea; for, as I have already said, it is visible from the seaport of Iopê [Jaffa]. This region lies towards the north; and it is inhabited in general, as is each place in particular, by mixed stocks of people from Egyptian and Arabian and Phoenician tribes; for such are those who occupy Galilee and Hiericus [Jericho] and Philadelphia and Samaria, which last Herod surnamed Sebastê. [Augusta] But though the inhabitants are mixed up thus, the most prevalent of the accredited reports in regard to the temple at Jerusalem represents the ancestors of the present Judaeans, as they are called, as Egyptians." (Strabo, Geography 16:2:34)

The Greeks and Romans maybe mistaken as to the origins of the Jews/Hebrews but as far as they were concerned they bore much more than a passing likeness between them and the Kushites and Kemities, and given the long residence of Nile valley folks in the area going back to Natufian times, and direct control of Nile valley civilizations for extremely periods , that they may swing between yellowish brown and black is unavoidable,  I see no reason to those who quoted the Pirqe de Ribbi Eli`ezer text as either out of context or over reach.

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8th century BCE skulls from Tel Lachish, Israel show closest morphometric affinity to modern European/West Asian populations, not Africans-



Hardcore data like this debunks your afrocentric crackpottery.

[anansi]

The excavation uncovered a mass of human bones, which was estimated to form the remains of fifteen hundred individuals....Remains of 695 skulls were brought to London by the British expedition...Curiously, the crania indicate a close resemblance to the population of Egypt at this time...'the relationships found suggest that the population of the town in 700 B.C. was entirely, or almost entirely, of Egyptian origin...' They show further, that the population of Lakish was probably derived from Upper Egypt...If so, this indeed is a conclusion of far-reaching implication.
Ussiskhin, David The Conquest of Lachish by Sennacherib
Tel Aviv Univeristy
The Institute of Arcaheology Tel Aviv
1982 p.56-57

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What was happening in 8th century B.C Levant?? the conquest and invasion of Kush.

The genetic data appear to be consistent with the archaeological and linguistic data indicative of extensive population interactions between North African and Middle Eastern populations. A recent NRY study explores the distribution of haplogroups in a sample of African, Middle Eastern, and European males (38). Whereas a subclade of haplogroup E (M35) appears to have arisen in eastern Africa over 20 kya and subsequently spread to the Middle East and Europe, haplogroup J (M267) appears to have arisen in the Middle East over 20 kya and subsequently spread into northern Africa (38). A recent study of genomewide autosomal microsatellite markers reports that Middle Eastern and African samples share the highest number of alleles that are also absent in other non-African samples, consistent with bidirectional gene flow (1). In addition, a recent study of domestic goat mtDNA and NRY variation reports similar findings as well as evidence of trade along the Strait of Gibraltar (39). The combined archaeological, linguistic, and genetic data, therefore, suggest bidirectional migration of peoples between northern Africa and the Levant for at least the past ~14 ky.
lhttp://www.pnas.org/content/107/Supplement_2/8931.full

Many human craniofacial dimensions are largely of neutral adaptive significance, and an analysis of their variation can serve as an indication of the extent to which any given population is genetically related to or differs from any other. When 24 craniofacial measurements of a series of human populations are used to generate neighbor-joining dendrograms, it is no surprise that all modern European groups, ranging all of the way from Scandinavia to eastern Europe and throughout the Mediterranean to the Middle East, show that they are closely related to each other. The surprise is that the Neolithic peoples of Europe and their Bronze Age successors are not closely related to the modern inhabitants, although the prehistoric/modern ties are somewhat more apparent in southern Europe. It is a further surprise that the Epipalaeolithic Natufian of Israel from whom the Neolithic realm was assumed to arise has a clear link to Sub-Saharan Africa. Basques and Canary Islanders are clearly associated with modern Europeans. When canonical variates are plotted, neither sample ties in with Cro-Magnon as was once suggested. The data treated here support the idea that the Neolithic moved out of the Near East into the circum-Mediterranean areas and Europe by a process of demic diffusion but that subsequently the in situ residents of those areas, derived from the Late Pleistocene inhabitants, absorbed both the agricultural life way and the people who had brought it.
www.pnas.org/content/103/1/242.short