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Post by eki on Apr 20, 2016 1:55:12 GMT -5
It is reported that the Prophet Mohamed (SAWS) said this:
"Fear Allah - Fear Allah concerning the black-skinned, kinky-haired People of the Black Soil (People of Egypt) who are under your protection! Verily they are your relatives."
الله الله في أهل الذمة ، أهل المدرة السوداء السحم الجعاد فإن لهم نسبا وصهرا
it is related that Ibn Abbas said: The children of Sam settled in the center of the Earth which is between Satidma to the ocean and what is between Yemen to Sham. Allah gave them prophethood and He gave them the Divine Books and He made them beautiful and He made them very dark-skinned and He also made them abyad. The children of Ham settled in the Southern Areas and in Al-Dabbour. This area is called Al-Daaroum. Allah made them very dark-skinned and He made some of them abyad. Allah populated their land and filled their sky and he relieved them of the plague and He put on their land tamarisk trees, evergreen trees, apple of Sodom trees, ghaf trees, and date palm trees. The sun and the moon pass through their sky. The children of Japheth settled in Al-Safoun in the Northern Areas and in Al-Sabaa. They are light-skinned and very fair-skinned… ************************************************************************************************************ Satidma: Satidma is the mountain range between the Mediterranean and the Indian Ocean. Sham: Sham is Greater Syria, comprising modern Syria, Lebanon, Israel, the Palestinian Territories and Jordan. Al-Daaroum: Al-Daaroum is south of Gaza in Palestine on the way to Egypt. فنزل بنو سام المجدل سرة الأرض وهو فيما بين ساتيدما إلى البحر وما بين اليمن إلى الشام وجعل الله النبوة والكتاب والجمال والأدمة والبياض فيهم ونزل بنو حام مجرى الجنوب والدبور ويقال لتلك الناحية الداروم وجعل الله فيهم أدمة وبياضا قليلا وأعمر بلادهم وسماءهم ورفع عنهم الطاعون وجعل في أرضهم الأثل والأراك والعشر والغاف والنخل وجرت الشمس والقمر في سمائهم ونزل بنو يافث الصفون مجرى الشمال والصبا وفيهم الحمرة والشقرة
*ABYAD MEANS LUMINOUS AND BLEMISH FREE OR A LIGHT COMPLEXION WITH A BLACK APPEARANCE.
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Post by anansi on Apr 20, 2016 3:01:24 GMT -5
It is reported that the Prophet Mohamed (SAWS) said this: "Fear Allah - Fear Allah concerning the black-skinned, kinky-haired People of the Black Soil (People of Egypt) who are under your protection! Verily they are your relatives." الله الله في أهل الذمة ، أهل المدرة السوداء السحم الجعاد فإن لهم نسبا وصهرا it is related that Ibn Abbas said: The children of Sam settled in the center of the Earth which is between Satidma to the ocean and what is between Yemen to Sham. Allah gave them prophethood and He gave them the Divine Books and He made them beautiful and He made them very dark-skinned and He also made them abyad. The children of Ham settled in the Southern Areas and in Al-Dabbour. This area is called Al-Daaroum. Allah made them very dark-skinned and He made some of them abyad. Allah populated their land and filled their sky and he relieved them of the plague and He put on their land tamarisk trees, evergreen trees, apple of Sodom trees, ghaf trees, and date palm trees. The sun and the moon pass through their sky. The children of Japheth settled in Al-Safoun in the Northern Areas and in Al-Sabaa. They are light-skinned and very fair-skinned… ************************************************************************************************************ Satidma: Satidma is the mountain range between the Mediterranean and the Indian Ocean. Sham: Sham is Greater Syria, comprising modern Syria, Lebanon, Israel, the Palestinian Territories and Jordan. Al-Daaroum: Al-Daaroum is south of Gaza in Palestine on the way to Egypt. فنزل بنو سام المجدل سرة الأرض وهو فيما بين ساتيدما إلى البحر وما بين اليمن إلى الشام وجعل الله النبوة والكتاب والجمال والأدمة والبياض فيهم ونزل بنو حام مجرى الجنوب والدبور ويقال لتلك الناحية الداروم وجعل الله فيهم أدمة وبياضا قليلا وأعمر بلادهم وسماءهم ورفع عنهم الطاعون وجعل في أرضهم الأثل والأراك والعشر والغاف والنخل وجرت الشمس والقمر في سمائهم ونزل بنو يافث الصفون مجرى الشمال والصبا وفيهم الحمرة والشقرة *ABYAD MEANS LUMINOUS AND BLEMISH FREE OR A LIGHT COMPLEXION WITH A BLACK APPEARANCE. Interesting quotes, where is this from. |
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Post by eki on Apr 20, 2016 3:34:03 GMT -5
It is reported that the Prophet Mohamed (SAWS) said this: "Fear Allah - Fear Allah concerning the black-skinned, kinky-haired People of the Black Soil (People of Egypt) who are under your protection! Verily they are your relatives." الله الله في أهل الذمة ، أهل المدرة السوداء السحم الجعاد فإن لهم نسبا وصهرا it is related that Ibn Abbas said: The children of Sam settled in the center of the Earth which is between Satidma to the ocean and what is between Yemen to Sham. Allah gave them prophethood and He gave them the Divine Books and He made them beautiful and He made them very dark-skinned and He also made them abyad. The children of Ham settled in the Southern Areas and in Al-Dabbour. This area is called Al-Daaroum. Allah made them very dark-skinned and He made some of them abyad. Allah populated their land and filled their sky and he relieved them of the plague and He put on their land tamarisk trees, evergreen trees, apple of Sodom trees, ghaf trees, and date palm trees. The sun and the moon pass through their sky. The children of Japheth settled in Al-Safoun in the Northern Areas and in Al-Sabaa. They are light-skinned and very fair-skinned… ************************************************************************************************************ Satidma: Satidma is the mountain range between the Mediterranean and the Indian Ocean. Sham: Sham is Greater Syria, comprising modern Syria, Lebanon, Israel, the Palestinian Territories and Jordan. Al-Daaroum: Al-Daaroum is south of Gaza in Palestine on the way to Egypt. فنزل بنو سام المجدل سرة الأرض وهو فيما بين ساتيدما إلى البحر وما بين اليمن إلى الشام وجعل الله النبوة والكتاب والجمال والأدمة والبياض فيهم ونزل بنو حام مجرى الجنوب والدبور ويقال لتلك الناحية الداروم وجعل الله فيهم أدمة وبياضا قليلا وأعمر بلادهم وسماءهم ورفع عنهم الطاعون وجعل في أرضهم الأثل والأراك والعشر والغاف والنخل وجرت الشمس والقمر في سمائهم ونزل بنو يافث الصفون مجرى الشمال والصبا وفيهم الحمرة والشقرة *ABYAD MEANS LUMINOUS AND BLEMISH FREE OR A LIGHT COMPLEXION WITH A BLACK APPEARANCE. Interesting quotes, where is this from. Hadith that was related by Ibn Abbas(RA)is found in Taarikh Al Umam Wa Al Muluk by Al Tabari. |
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Post by anansi on Apr 20, 2016 21:12:00 GMT -5
Thanks Eki and welcome to ESR.
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Post by eki on Apr 23, 2016 15:16:11 GMT -5
Thanks Eki and welcome to ESR. I shared this with you so that white thiveves know that the prophet(SAW)disagrees with them. And that if you blacks here are Mizraimites(true Egyptians), i thought it may be useful for you to know this. |
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Post by zarahan on Apr 30, 2016 10:12:28 GMT -5
Yes Some Muslims have taken on what is written in the Bible by Moses, who credits the first large scale civilizations to blacks, and who credits Egypt (Mizraim) with being black -same family as Cush, Punt etc, though too, there are a number of Islamic writings pronouncing the totally bogus "curse of Ham" slander, which does not at all appear in the Bible. It is entirely an invention by later Jewish, Christian and Arab writers. As seen below- Moses fairly gives the brothers credit. Who did Moses say are the sons of Ham, which means hot, heat, or brown in Hebrew according to most Bible translations- Genesis 10? -- Mizraim- Egypt -- Cush- Sudanic zone near Egypt primarily- and less used -Mesopotamia/Ethiopia/Yemen and perhaps extending down to the Horn -- Phut- Somalia, Southern Sudan or today's Eritrea/Ethiopia -- Caanan- the Palestine, Lebanon area --Who did Moses say built the first large-scale civilization? It was Nimrod, son of Cush, whose descendants built Babel, Akkad, Sumer, etc. Cush is the Bible is heavily and mostly used for the Sudanic area near Egypt, as would be expected since Cush and Mizraim (Egypt) are biological brothers. It also refers to parts of Mesopotamia and Yemen. The kingdom of Nimrod apparently took in a broad area- from Mesopotamia to the Sudan perhaps. Indeed one of the rivers that flowed out of the Garden of Eden in Genesis 2- the river Gihon, is said to encircle the whole land of Cush- perhaps a reference to a zone stretching from modern day Iraq to the Sudan. The popular notion of the fertile Crescent would be too narrow based on the Biblical narrative. That crescent would extend down the Nile into the Sudan and perhaps further south. Later on in the Bible the word Cush is mostly used to refer to the Sudan. The map based on Genesis 10 below gives a better picture of "the nations"- though these primarily have to do with nations interacting with Hebrews. Genesis is a moral/spiritual entity primarily, not a book on anthropology or Middle Eastern history though it may touch on those areas. But it gives a rough outline of the area.  ^^Notice how Moses credits the brothers- all the way up into Babylon, Syria and the Mediterranean..
Cheikh Anta Diop quotes from Moses approvingly in one of his books, and uses part of his general outline in building his theory.-- Re skin color- the word Cush in Hebrew means black. There is no mistaking it sometimes refers to skin color- for a proverb used by the prophet Jeremiah to illustrate a moral principle goes: "Can the Ethiopian [or Cushite] change his skin, or the leopard his spots?" -- Notice a pattern here from the Biblical narrative? All these powerful, prosperous large scale civilizations are derived from people strongly suggestive of "dark" Hamites- in particular, Mizraim and Cush. Mizraim, one of the greatest, means 'Egypt' in Hebrew. Those who built Babel, Babylon and Sumer, etc did so under the line of Cush, meaning 'black', under the line of Nimrod, son of Cush. Moses it could be said, in a broad sense at least, gave the brothers credit where it was due. He also married a Cushite (Numbers 12), which upsets some people. |
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Post by jethro on Sept 14, 2016 13:01:11 GMT -5
It is reported that the Prophet Mohamed (SAWS) said this: "Fear Allah - Fear Allah concerning the black-skinned, kinky-haired People of the Black Soil (People of Egypt) who are under your protection! Verily they are your relatives." الله الله في أهل الذمة ، أهل المدرة السوداء السحم الجعاد فإن لهم نسبا وصهرا it is related that Ibn Abbas said: The children of Sam settled in the center of the Earth which is between Satidma to the ocean and what is between Yemen to Sham. Allah gave them prophethood and He gave them the Divine Books and He made them beautiful and He made them very dark-skinned and He also made them abyad. The children of Ham settled in the Southern Areas and in Al-Dabbour. This area is called Al-Daaroum. Allah made them very dark-skinned and He made some of them abyad. Allah populated their land and filled their sky and he relieved them of the plague and He put on their land tamarisk trees, evergreen trees, apple of Sodom trees, ghaf trees, and date palm trees. The sun and the moon pass through their sky. The children of Japheth settled in Al-Safoun in the Northern Areas and in Al-Sabaa. They are light-skinned and very fair-skinned… ************************************************************************************************************ Satidma: Satidma is the mountain range between the Mediterranean and the Indian Ocean. Sham: Sham is Greater Syria, comprising modern Syria, Lebanon, Israel, the Palestinian Territories and Jordan. Al-Daaroum: Al-Daaroum is south of Gaza in Palestine on the way to Egypt. فنزل بنو سام المجدل سرة الأرض وهو فيما بين ساتيدما إلى البحر وما بين اليمن إلى الشام وجعل الله النبوة والكتاب والجمال والأدمة والبياض فيهم ونزل بنو حام مجرى الجنوب والدبور ويقال لتلك الناحية الداروم وجعل الله فيهم أدمة وبياضا قليلا وأعمر بلادهم وسماءهم ورفع عنهم الطاعون وجعل في أرضهم الأثل والأراك والعشر والغاف والنخل وجرت الشمس والقمر في سمائهم ونزل بنو يافث الصفون مجرى الشمال والصبا وفيهم الحمرة والشقرة *ABYAD MEANS LUMINOUS AND BLEMISH FREE OR A LIGHT COMPLEXION WITH A BLACK APPEARANCE. |
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Post by jethro on Sept 14, 2016 13:03:59 GMT -5
Yes Some Muslims have taken on what is written in the Bible by Moses, who credits the first large scale civilizations to blacks, and who credits Egypt (Mizraim) with being black -same family as Cush, Punt etc, though too, there are a number of Islamic writings pronouncing the totally bogus "curse of Ham" slander, which does not at all appear in the Bible. It is entirely an invention by later Jewish, Christian and Arab writers. As seen below- Moses fairly gives the brothers credit. Who did Moses say are the sons of Ham, which means hot, heat, or brown in Hebrew according to most Bible translations- Genesis 10? -- Mizraim- Egypt -- Cush- Sudanic zone near Egypt primarily- and less used -Mesopotamia/Ethiopia/Yemen and perhaps extending down to the Horn -- Phut- Somalia, Southern Sudan or today's Eritrea/Ethiopia -- Caanan- the Palestine, Lebanon area --Who did Moses say built the first large-scale civilization? It was Nimrod, son of Cush, whose descendants built Babel, Akkad, Sumer, etc. Cush is the Bible is heavily and mostly used for the Sudanic area near Egypt, as would be expected since Cush and Mizraim (Egypt) are biological brothers. It also refers to parts of Mesopotamia and Yemen. The kingdom of Nimrod apparently took in a broad area- from Mesopotamia to the Sudan perhaps. Indeed one of the rivers that flowed out of the Garden of Eden in Genesis 2- the river Gihon, is said to encircle the whole land of Cush- perhaps a reference to a zone stretching from modern day Iraq to the Sudan. The popular notion of the fertile Crescent would be too narrow based on the Biblical narrative. That crescent would extend down the Nile into the Sudan and perhaps further south. Later on in the Bible the word Cush is mostly used to refer to the Sudan. The map based on Genesis 10 below gives a better picture of "the nations"- though these primarily have to do with nations interacting with Hebrews. Genesis is a moral/spiritual entity primarily, not a book on anthropology or Middle Eastern history though it may touch on those areas. But it gives a rough outline of the area. ^^Notice how Moses credits the brothers- all the way up into Babylon, Syria and the Mediterranean..
Cheikh Anta Diop quotes from Moses approvingly in one of his books, and uses part of his general outline in building his theory.-- Re skin color- the word Cush in Hebrew means black. There is no mistaking it sometimes refers to skin color- for a proverb used by the prophet Jeremiah to illustrate a moral principle goes: "Can the Ethiopian [or Cushite] change his skin, or the leopard his spots?" -- Notice a pattern here from the Biblical narrative? All these powerful, prosperous large scale civilizations are derived from people strongly suggestive of "dark" Hamites- in particular, Mizraim and Cush. Mizraim, one of the greatest, means 'Egypt' in Hebrew. Those who built Babel, Babylon and Sumer, etc did so under the line of Cush, meaning 'black', under the line of Nimrod, son of Cush. Moses it could be said, in a broad sense at least, gave the brothers credit where it was due. He also married a Cushite (Numbers 12), which upsets some people. |
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Post by jethro on Sept 14, 2016 13:21:05 GMT -5
REAL HAMITES AS PORTRAYED BY ANCIENT EGYPTIANS: |
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Post by jethro on Sept 14, 2016 13:24:33 GMT -5
ANCIENT EGYPTIANS PORTRAYED SHEMITES AND HAMITES and THEMSELVES CAUCASIANS! They portrayed Black Africans as CUSHITES!
DNA AGREES!
THERE WERE NO BLACK AFRICAN NATIONS EVER IN THE MIDDLE EAST! WHERE ARE THEIR SKULLS YOU DUMBAZZ AFRONAZI FREAKS???
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Post by anansi on Sept 14, 2016 20:08:15 GMT -5
ANCIENT EGYPTIANS PORTRAYED SHEMITES AND HAMITES and THEMSELVES CAUCASIANS! They portrayed Black Africans as CUSHITES! DNA AGREES! THERE WERE NO BLACK AFRICAN NATIONS EVER IN THE MIDDLE EAST! WHERE ARE THEIR SKULLS YOU DUMBAZZ AFRONAZI FREAKS??? Right where they are buried.and yes DNA do agree they have East African ancestry. |
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Post by melanitex on Oct 28, 2016 18:21:44 GMT -5
I had to stop taking you seriously when you started using old 19th Century outdated anthropology terms like Hamitic and Negroid fam..... |
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Post by punosrey on Oct 29, 2016 18:01:17 GMT -5
Has any one been able to source the hadith in the OP to an example of it in the History of Al Tabari? I have relentlessly tried to find it and can only find the text posted on message boards and not linked to the original work
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