Who had a older civilization Africa or Europe?

[history91]

In a Facebook group called Truth Seeker there's a white guy claiming Europe has a older civilization than Africa and the out of Africa theory has been debunked. What information is available to prove him false? 

[anansi]

Aug 30, 2016 22:08:44 GMT -5 history91 said:

In a Facebook group called Truth Seeker there's a white guy claiming Europe has a older civilization than Africa and the out of Africa theory has been debunked. What information is available to prove him false? 

Look you are beginning to annoy even me and I am way less short tempered than XXyman, this site is pack with info and you have been here for a while, why not simply use whats available or better yet tell your FB friend to sign-up and ask those question or posed a challenge he or she wishes.

[history91]

I'm just trying to get information to show this guy he's wrong. He and his crew aren't going to come here so I'm trying to take the battle to him. To him and his crew North Africa, Egypt and Europe was never black Africans. 

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[zarahan]

Aug 31, 2016 2:04:44 GMT -5 anansi said:

Aug 30, 2016 22:08:44 GMT -5 history91 said:

In a Facebook group called Truth Seeker there's a white guy claiming Europe has a older civilization than Africa and the out of Africa theory has been debunked. What information is available to prove him false? 

Look you are beginning to annoy even me and I am way less short tempered than XXyman, this site is pack with info and you have been here for a while, why not simply use whats available or better yet tell your FB friend to sign-up and ask those question or posed a challenge he or she wishes.

LOL this guy is so lazy. The info is easy to find and well documented but here again he wants us to do his legwork for him-
frontin with fake "inquiries" as if he is fooling anybody.

[history91]

OH Really?  This from Truth Seeker on Facebook. It's a secret group. No fake inquiries.  It's a lot them. Just trying to gather the right information to combat them.

[clydewin98]

First civilizations began in Africa not Europe
The First civilizations began in Africa—not Europe. The First Civilizations in Europe were the Aurignacian and Salutrian cultures. The founders of these civilizations were probably the Khoisan.

The first Europeans were the Bushman or Khoisan people. They left us numerous figurines showing their type namely the Venus Figurines.



The Aurignacian civilization was founded by the Cro-Magnon people who originated in Africa. They took this culture to Western Europe across the Straits of Gibraltar. The Cro-Magnon people were probably Bushman/Khoi.
There have been numerous "Negroid skeletons" found in Europe. Marcellin Boule and Henri Vallois, in Fossil Man, provide an entire chapter on the Africans/Negroes of Europe Anta Diop also discussed the Negroes of Europe in Civilization or Barbarism, pp.25-68. Also W.E. B. DuBois, discussed these Negroes in the The World and Africa, pp.86-89. DuBois noted that "There was once a an "uninterrupted belt' of Negro culture from Central Europe to South Africa" (p.88).

Boule and Vallois, note that "To sum up, in the most ancient skeletons from the Grotte des Enfants we have a human type which is readily comparable to modern types and especially to the Negritic or Negroid type" (p.289). They continue, "Two Neolithic individuals from Chamblandes in Switzerland are Negroid not only as regards their skulls but also in the proportions of their limbs. Several Ligurian and Lombard tombs of the Metal Ages have also yielded evidences of a Negroid element.



Since the publication of Verneau's memoir, discoveries of other Negroid skeletons in Neolithic levels in Illyria and the Balkans have been announced. The prehistoric statues, dating from the Copper Age, from Sultan Selo in Bulgaria are also thought to protray Negroids.

In 1928 Rene Bailly found in one of the caverns of Moniat, near Dinant in Belgium, a human skeleton of whose age it is difficult to be certain, but seems definitely prehistoric. It is remarkable for its Negroid characters, which give it a reseblance to the skeletons from both Grimaldi and Asselar (p.291).

Boule and Vallois, note that "We know now that the ethnography of South African tribes presents many striking similarities with the ethnography of our populations of the Reindeer Age. Not to speak of their stone implements which, as we shall see later , exhibit great similarities, Peringuey has told us that in certain burials on the South African coast 'associated with the Aurignacian or Solutrean type industry...."(p.318-319). They add, that in relation to Bushman art " This almost uninterrupted series leads us to regard the African continent as a centre of important migrations which at certain times may have played a great part in the stocking of Southern Europe. Finally, we must not forget that the Grimaldi Negroid skeletons sho many points of resemblance with the Bushman skeletons". They bear no less a resemblance to that of the fossil Man discovered at Asslar in mid-Sahara, whose characters led us to class him with the Hottentot-Bushman group.

The Boule and Vallois research makes it clear that the Bushman expanded across Africa on into Europe via Spain as the Grimaldi people. This makes it clear that the Bushman/Khoisan people were not isolated in South Africa. The Khoisan people carry the haplogroup N. The Hadza are Bushman they carry haplogroup N.

Cro-Magnon people carried haplogroup N. David Caramelli et al, in Evidence for a genetic discontinuity between Neandertals and 24,000-year-old anatomically modern Europeans, at www.pnas.org/content/100/11/6593.full , wrote that “Specific mtDNA sites outside HVRI were also analyzed (by amplification, cloning, and sequencing of the surrounding region) to classify more precisely the ancient sequences within the phylogenetic network of present-time mtDNAs (35, 36). Paglicci-25 has the following motifs: +7,025 AluI, 00073A, 11719G, and 12308A. Therefore, this sequence belongs to either haplogroups HV or pre-HV, two haplogroups rare in general but with a comparatively high frequencies among today's Near-Easterners (35). Paglicci-12 shows the motifs 00073G, 10873C, 10238T, and AACC between nucleotide positions 10397 and 10400, which allows the classification of this sequence into the macrohaplogroupN,containing haplogroups W, X, I, N1a, N1b, N1c, and N*. Following the definition given in ref. 36, the presence of a single mutation in 16,223 within HRVI suggests a classification of Paglicci-12 into the haplogroup N*, which is observed today in several samples from the Near East and, at lower frequencies, in the Caucasus (35). It is difficult to say whether the apparent evolutionary relationship between Paglicci-25 and Paglicci-12 and those populations is more than a coincidence. Indeed, the haplogroups to which the Cro-Magnon type sequences appear to belong are rare among modern samples, and therefore their frequencies are poorly estimated. However, genetic affinities between the first anatomically modern Europeans and current populations of the Near East make sense in the light of the likely routes of Upper Paleolithic human expansions in Europe, as documented in the archaeological record (37)”.

The Khoisan were the Cro-Magnon people of Europe (Winters, 2008, 2011, 2014). They were the firstanatomically modern humans to enter western Eurasia (Winters, 2011). The Khoisan probably introduced haplogroup M to western Eurasia (Winters, 2010, 2011, 2014).The Khoisan carry haplogroups L3(M, N). Before they crossed the Straits of Gibraltar to reach Iberia,they probably stopped in West Africa. The basal L3(M) motif in West Africa is characterized by the Ddel site np 10, 394 and Alul site np 10, 397 associated with AF-24 (Winters, 2010). This supports my contention that Khoisan speakers early settled North and West Africa on their way to Iberia (Winters2008).

This suggest that haplogroup N was taken to Western Eurasia by the San people=Cro-Magnon.

The dating of the TMRCA of X2, in North Africa 21kya corresponds to the dating for Solutrean culture in North Africa. This suggests that Paleoamericans introduced Hg X2 into North America.It appears that the first Europeans were Khoisan (Boule and Vallois, 1957). They entered Western Europeacross the Straits of Gibraltar (Winters, 2008, 2011). These people were Khoisan (Boule and Vallois,1957). The Khoisan took their art and culture to Europe 40kya Boule and Vallois (1957). Here they constructed the Aurignacian, Grimaldi and Solutrean cultures (Boule and Vallois 1957; Winters, 2008,2011). Since the first Europeans had come from North Africa, we also find the Solutrean culture inAfrica.Many researchers have recognized that the Solutrean culture of Iberia probably originated in Africa(Burkitt, 2012; Childe, 2001; Debenath et al.,1986; Debenath and Dibble, 1994; Tiffagom, 2007). It is the mainstream view of Spanish prehistorians that the Solutrean culture originated in Africa (Pericot,1950). Boule and Vallois (1957) noted that ancient tool kits found in South African burials along the coast are associated with the Solutrean industry.Pericot (1950, 1955) believed that the tanged points at the Parpallo site of the Solutrean were of Ateriancultural origin. Burkitt (2012) said that there were Algerian tools similar to the Solutrean tool kit. GordonChilde (2009) claimed that the North African and Spanish populations that used the Solutrean tools were in direct communication. By the 1960’s, though, Smith (54) was able to reject the hypothesis of an African origin for the Solutrean culture.


The African hypothesis for the origin of the Solutrean culture has been revised by Debénath et al.,(1986) and Ramos (1998). Debénathet al., (1986) argues that Iberomarusians crossed the Straits of Sicily, into Tunesia 25-22kya, and progressively drove the Solutreans out of North Africa into Iberia. Debénath et al., (1986) maintains that this migration OoA matches the origination of the Solutrean culture after 21kya. The Solutrean tanged points are at least 18-19ky old at Estremadura, Calderirao Cave and Parpalló Cave in Valencia (Straus, 2001).
The references for the authors cited in this paper can be found at: www.academia.edu/17137182/THE_PALEOAMERICANS_CAME_FROM_AFRICA

[clydewin98]

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[jethro]

Sept 5, 2016 10:10:45 GMT -5 clydewin98 said:

First civilizations began in Africa not Europe
The First civilizations began in Africa—not Europe. The First Civilizations in Europe were the Aurignacian and Salutrian cultures. The founders of these civilizations were probably the Khoisan.

The first Europeans were the Bushman or Khoisan people. They left us numerous figurines showing their type namely the Venus Figurines.



The Aurignacian civilization was founded by the Cro-Magnon people who originated in Africa. They took this culture to Western Europe across the Straits of Gibraltar. The Cro-Magnon people were probably Bushman/Khoi.
There have been numerous "Negroid skeletons" found in Europe. Marcellin Boule and Henri Vallois, in Fossil Man, provide an entire chapter on the Africans/Negroes of Europe Anta Diop also discussed the Negroes of Europe in Civilization or Barbarism, pp.25-68. Also W.E. B. DuBois, discussed these Negroes in the The World and Africa, pp.86-89. DuBois noted that "There was once a an "uninterrupted belt' of Negro culture from Central Europe to South Africa" (p.88).

Boule and Vallois, note that "To sum up, in the most ancient skeletons from the Grotte des Enfants we have a human type which is readily comparable to modern types and especially to the Negritic or Negroid type" (p.289). They continue, "Two Neolithic individuals from Chamblandes in Switzerland are Negroid not only as regards their skulls but also in the proportions of their limbs. Several Ligurian and Lombard tombs of the Metal Ages have also yielded evidences of a Negroid element.



Since the publication of Verneau's memoir, discoveries of other Negroid skeletons in Neolithic levels in Illyria and the Balkans have been announced. The prehistoric statues, dating from the Copper Age, from Sultan Selo in Bulgaria are also thought to protray Negroids.

In 1928 Rene Bailly found in one of the caverns of Moniat, near Dinant in Belgium, a human skeleton of whose age it is difficult to be certain, but seems definitely prehistoric. It is remarkable for its Negroid characters, which give it a reseblance to the skeletons from both Grimaldi and Asselar (p.291).

Boule and Vallois, note that "We know now that the ethnography of South African tribes presents many striking similarities with the ethnography of our populations of the Reindeer Age. Not to speak of their stone implements which, as we shall see later , exhibit great similarities, Peringuey has told us that in certain burials on the South African coast 'associated with the Aurignacian or Solutrean type industry...."(p.318-319). They add, that in relation to Bushman art " This almost uninterrupted series leads us to regard the African continent as a centre of important migrations which at certain times may have played a great part in the stocking of Southern Europe. Finally, we must not forget that the Grimaldi Negroid skeletons sho many points of resemblance with the Bushman skeletons". They bear no less a resemblance to that of the fossil Man discovered at Asslar in mid-Sahara, whose characters led us to class him with the Hottentot-Bushman group.

The Boule and Vallois research makes it clear that the Bushman expanded across Africa on into Europe via Spain as the Grimaldi people. This makes it clear that the Bushman/Khoisan people were not isolated in South Africa. The Khoisan people carry the haplogroup N. The Hadza are Bushman they carry haplogroup N.

Cro-Magnon people carried haplogroup N. David Caramelli et al, in Evidence for a genetic discontinuity between Neandertals and 24,000-year-old anatomically modern Europeans, at www.pnas.org/content/100/11/6593.full , wrote that “Specific mtDNA sites outside HVRI were also analyzed (by amplification, cloning, and sequencing of the surrounding region) to classify more precisely the ancient sequences within the phylogenetic network of present-time mtDNAs (35, 36). Paglicci-25 has the following motifs: +7,025 AluI, 00073A, 11719G, and 12308A. Therefore, this sequence belongs to either haplogroups HV or pre-HV, two haplogroups rare in general but with a comparatively high frequencies among today's Near-Easterners (35). Paglicci-12 shows the motifs 00073G, 10873C, 10238T, and AACC between nucleotide positions 10397 and 10400, which allows the classification of this sequence into the macrohaplogroupN,containing haplogroups W, X, I, N1a, N1b, N1c, and N*. Following the definition given in ref. 36, the presence of a single mutation in 16,223 within HRVI suggests a classification of Paglicci-12 into the haplogroup N*, which is observed today in several samples from the Near East and, at lower frequencies, in the Caucasus (35). It is difficult to say whether the apparent evolutionary relationship between Paglicci-25 and Paglicci-12 and those populations is more than a coincidence. Indeed, the haplogroups to which the Cro-Magnon type sequences appear to belong are rare among modern samples, and therefore their frequencies are poorly estimated. However, genetic affinities between the first anatomically modern Europeans and current populations of the Near East make sense in the light of the likely routes of Upper Paleolithic human expansions in Europe, as documented in the archaeological record (37)”.

The Khoisan were the Cro-Magnon people of Europe (Winters, 2008, 2011, 2014). They were the firstanatomically modern humans to enter western Eurasia (Winters, 2011). The Khoisan probably introduced haplogroup M to western Eurasia (Winters, 2010, 2011, 2014).The Khoisan carry haplogroups L3(M, N). Before they crossed the Straits of Gibraltar to reach Iberia,they probably stopped in West Africa. The basal L3(M) motif in West Africa is characterized by the Ddel site np 10, 394 and Alul site np 10, 397 associated with AF-24 (Winters, 2010). This supports my contention that Khoisan speakers early settled North and West Africa on their way to Iberia (Winters2008).

This suggest that haplogroup N was taken to Western Eurasia by the San people=Cro-Magnon.

The dating of the TMRCA of X2, in North Africa 21kya corresponds to the dating for Solutrean culture in North Africa. This suggests that Paleoamericans introduced Hg X2 into North America.It appears that the first Europeans were Khoisan (Boule and Vallois, 1957). They entered Western Europeacross the Straits of Gibraltar (Winters, 2008, 2011). These people were Khoisan (Boule and Vallois,1957). The Khoisan took their art and culture to Europe 40kya Boule and Vallois (1957). Here they constructed the Aurignacian, Grimaldi and Solutrean cultures (Boule and Vallois 1957; Winters, 2008,2011). Since the first Europeans had come from North Africa, we also find the Solutrean culture inAfrica.Many researchers have recognized that the Solutrean culture of Iberia probably originated in Africa(Burkitt, 2012; Childe, 2001; Debenath et al.,1986; Debenath and Dibble, 1994; Tiffagom, 2007). It is the mainstream view of Spanish prehistorians that the Solutrean culture originated in Africa (Pericot,1950). Boule and Vallois (1957) noted that ancient tool kits found in South African burials along the coast are associated with the Solutrean industry.Pericot (1950, 1955) believed that the tanged points at the Parpallo site of the Solutrean were of Ateriancultural origin. Burkitt (2012) said that there were Algerian tools similar to the Solutrean tool kit. GordonChilde (2009) claimed that the North African and Spanish populations that used the Solutrean tools were in direct communication. By the 1960’s, though, Smith (54) was able to reject the hypothesis of an African origin for the Solutrean culture.


The African hypothesis for the origin of the Solutrean culture has been revised by Debénath et al.,(1986) and Ramos (1998). Debénathet al., (1986) argues that Iberomarusians crossed the Straits of Sicily, into Tunesia 25-22kya, and progressively drove the Solutreans out of North Africa into Iberia. Debénath et al., (1986) maintains that this migration OoA matches the origination of the Solutrean culture after 21kya. The Solutrean tanged points are at least 18-19ky old at Estremadura, Calderirao Cave and Parpalló Cave in Valencia (Straus, 2001).
The references for the authors cited in this paper can be found at: www.academia.edu/17137182/THE_PALEOAMERICANS_CAME_FROM_AFRICA

[jethro]

WHAT AN ABSOLUTE FCKING LOAD OF BULLSHYT!

THE AURIGNACIAN CULTURE WAS CAUCASIAN!
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aurignacian

N*GR***DS are only 8000 years old:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asselar_man

[jethro]

Sept 14, 2016 10:38:58 GMT -5 jethro said:

Sept 5, 2016 10:10:45 GMT -5 clydewin98 said:

First civilizations began in Africa not Europe
The First civilizations began in Africa—not Europe. The First Civilizations in Europe were the Aurignacian and Salutrian cultures. The founders of these civilizations were probably the Khoisan.

The first Europeans were the Bushman or Khoisan people. They left us numerous figurines showing their type namely the Venus Figurines.



The Aurignacian civilization was founded by the Cro-Magnon people who originated in Africa. They took this culture to Western Europe across the Straits of Gibraltar. The Cro-Magnon people were probably Bushman/Khoi.
There have been numerous "Negroid skeletons" found in Europe. Marcellin Boule and Henri Vallois, in Fossil Man, provide an entire chapter on the Africans/Negroes of Europe Anta Diop also discussed the Negroes of Europe in Civilization or Barbarism, pp.25-68. Also W.E. B. DuBois, discussed these Negroes in the The World and Africa, pp.86-89. DuBois noted that "There was once a an "uninterrupted belt' of Negro culture from Central Europe to South Africa" (p.88).

Boule and Vallois, note that "To sum up, in the most ancient skeletons from the Grotte des Enfants we have a human type which is readily comparable to modern types and especially to the Negritic or Negroid type" (p.289). They continue, "Two Neolithic individuals from Chamblandes in Switzerland are Negroid not only as regards their skulls but also in the proportions of their limbs. Several Ligurian and Lombard tombs of the Metal Ages have also yielded evidences of a Negroid element.



Since the publication of Verneau's memoir, discoveries of other Negroid skeletons in Neolithic levels in Illyria and the Balkans have been announced. The prehistoric statues, dating from the Copper Age, from Sultan Selo in Bulgaria are also thought to protray Negroids.

In 1928 Rene Bailly found in one of the caverns of Moniat, near Dinant in Belgium, a human skeleton of whose age it is difficult to be certain, but seems definitely prehistoric. It is remarkable for its Negroid characters, which give it a reseblance to the skeletons from both Grimaldi and Asselar (p.291).

Boule and Vallois, note that "We know now that the ethnography of South African tribes presents many striking similarities with the ethnography of our populations of the Reindeer Age. Not to speak of their stone implements which, as we shall see later , exhibit great similarities, Peringuey has told us that in certain burials on the South African coast 'associated with the Aurignacian or Solutrean type industry...."(p.318-319). They add, that in relation to Bushman art " This almost uninterrupted series leads us to regard the African continent as a centre of important migrations which at certain times may have played a great part in the stocking of Southern Europe. Finally, we must not forget that the Grimaldi Negroid skeletons sho many points of resemblance with the Bushman skeletons". They bear no less a resemblance to that of the fossil Man discovered at Asslar in mid-Sahara, whose characters led us to class him with the Hottentot-Bushman group.

The Boule and Vallois research makes it clear that the Bushman expanded across Africa on into Europe via Spain as the Grimaldi people. This makes it clear that the Bushman/Khoisan people were not isolated in South Africa. The Khoisan people carry the haplogroup N. The Hadza are Bushman they carry haplogroup N.

Cro-Magnon people carried haplogroup N. David Caramelli et al, in Evidence for a genetic discontinuity between Neandertals and 24,000-year-old anatomically modern Europeans, at www.pnas.org/content/100/11/6593.full , wrote that “Specific mtDNA sites outside HVRI were also analyzed (by amplification, cloning, and sequencing of the surrounding region) to classify more precisely the ancient sequences within the phylogenetic network of present-time mtDNAs (35, 36). Paglicci-25 has the following motifs: +7,025 AluI, 00073A, 11719G, and 12308A. Therefore, this sequence belongs to either haplogroups HV or pre-HV, two haplogroups rare in general but with a comparatively high frequencies among today's Near-Easterners (35). Paglicci-12 shows the motifs 00073G, 10873C, 10238T, and AACC between nucleotide positions 10397 and 10400, which allows the classification of this sequence into the macrohaplogroupN,containing haplogroups W, X, I, N1a, N1b, N1c, and N*. Following the definition given in ref. 36, the presence of a single mutation in 16,223 within HRVI suggests a classification of Paglicci-12 into the haplogroup N*, which is observed today in several samples from the Near East and, at lower frequencies, in the Caucasus (35). It is difficult to say whether the apparent evolutionary relationship between Paglicci-25 and Paglicci-12 and those populations is more than a coincidence. Indeed, the haplogroups to which the Cro-Magnon type sequences appear to belong are rare among modern samples, and therefore their frequencies are poorly estimated. However, genetic affinities between the first anatomically modern Europeans and current populations of the Near East make sense in the light of the likely routes of Upper Paleolithic human expansions in Europe, as documented in the archaeological record (37)”.

The Khoisan were the Cro-Magnon people of Europe (Winters, 2008, 2011, 2014). They were the firstanatomically modern humans to enter western Eurasia (Winters, 2011). The Khoisan probably introduced haplogroup M to western Eurasia (Winters, 2010, 2011, 2014).The Khoisan carry haplogroups L3(M, N). Before they crossed the Straits of Gibraltar to reach Iberia,they probably stopped in West Africa. The basal L3(M) motif in West Africa is characterized by the Ddel site np 10, 394 and Alul site np 10, 397 associated with AF-24 (Winters, 2010). This supports my contention that Khoisan speakers early settled North and West Africa on their way to Iberia (Winters2008).

This suggest that haplogroup N was taken to Western Eurasia by the San people=Cro-Magnon.

The dating of the TMRCA of X2, in North Africa 21kya corresponds to the dating for Solutrean culture in North Africa. This suggests that Paleoamericans introduced Hg X2 into North America.It appears that the first Europeans were Khoisan (Boule and Vallois, 1957). They entered Western Europeacross the Straits of Gibraltar (Winters, 2008, 2011). These people were Khoisan (Boule and Vallois,1957). The Khoisan took their art and culture to Europe 40kya Boule and Vallois (1957). Here they constructed the Aurignacian, Grimaldi and Solutrean cultures (Boule and Vallois 1957; Winters, 2008,2011). Since the first Europeans had come from North Africa, we also find the Solutrean culture inAfrica.Many researchers have recognized that the Solutrean culture of Iberia probably originated in Africa(Burkitt, 2012; Childe, 2001; Debenath et al.,1986; Debenath and Dibble, 1994; Tiffagom, 2007). It is the mainstream view of Spanish prehistorians that the Solutrean culture originated in Africa (Pericot,1950). Boule and Vallois (1957) noted that ancient tool kits found in South African burials along the coast are associated with the Solutrean industry.Pericot (1950, 1955) believed that the tanged points at the Parpallo site of the Solutrean were of Ateriancultural origin. Burkitt (2012) said that there were Algerian tools similar to the Solutrean tool kit. GordonChilde (2009) claimed that the North African and Spanish populations that used the Solutrean tools were in direct communication. By the 1960’s, though, Smith (54) was able to reject the hypothesis of an African origin for the Solutrean culture.


The African hypothesis for the origin of the Solutrean culture has been revised by Debénath et al.,(1986) and Ramos (1998). Debénathet al., (1986) argues that Iberomarusians crossed the Straits of Sicily, into Tunesia 25-22kya, and progressively drove the Solutreans out of North Africa into Iberia. Debénath et al., (1986) maintains that this migration OoA matches the origination of the Solutrean culture after 21kya. The Solutrean tanged points are at least 18-19ky old at Estremadura, Calderirao Cave and Parpalló Cave in Valencia (Straus, 2001).
The references for the authors cited in this paper can be found at: www.academia.edu/17137182/THE_PALEOAMERICANS_CAME_FROM_AFRICA

[jethro]

Sept 14, 2016 10:43:35 GMT -5 jethro said:

Sept 14, 2016 10:38:58 GMT -5 jethro said:

FIRST  MODERN  MAN  ABSOLUTELY  EVERYWHERE WAS THE  CAUCASIAN  CRO-MAGNON and EUROPEANS , MIDDLE EASTERN PEOPLE< EGYPTIANS STILL LOOK EXACTLY LIKE HIM AND CARRY  HIS  DNA:

[jethro]

Aug 30, 2016 22:08:44 GMT -5 history91 said:

In a Facebook group called Truth Seeker there's a white guy claiming Europe has a older civilization than Africa and the out of Africa theory has been debunked. What information is available to prove him false? 

OLDEST   CIVILIZATION  IS THE SUMERIANS!  THEY WERE AND  INDIGENOUS   CAUCASIANS!   Scientists  say the  MARSH  ARABS OF  IRAQ  ARE THEIR  DESCENDANTS!

[jethro]

KHOISAN WENT ABSOLUTE NOWHERE AND NEVER EVER LEFT AFRICA THATS WHY NO ONE CARRIES THEIR DNA!


THE CRO-MAGNON MAN WAS A CAUCASIAN

CRO-MAGNON RECREATED:
upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a7/Cro-Magnon_man_-_steps_of_forensic_facial_reconstruction.jpg

[jethro]

Aug 30, 2016 22:08:44 GMT -5 history91 said:

In a Facebook group called Truth Seeker there's a white guy claiming Europe has a older civilization than Africa and the out of Africa theory has been debunked. What information is available to prove him false? 

MOST  ANCIENT  CIVILIZATIONS:
www.ancienthistorylists.com/ancient-civilizations/10-oldest-ancient-civilizations-ever-existed/

ALL  ANCIENT  CIVILIZATIONS  WERE EURASIAN  in  origin  and this  includes ancient EGYPTIANS

ALL  ANCIENT  CIVILIZATIONS  ORIGINATED FROM  THE  CAUCASIAN  CROMAGNON,  THE  VERY  FIRST  MODERN MAN!

www.ancienthistorylists.com/ancient-civilizations/10-oldest-ancient-civilizations-ever-existed/