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Post by anansi on May 2, 2010 22:45:36 GMT -5
Interview with Spike Lee On Tyler Perry
Btw did anone saw the movie??..doth Spike Lee protest too much?
Tyler Perry respond
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Post by homeylu on May 3, 2010 7:34:03 GMT -5
Spike Lee is such a hypocrite, I can't name how many stereotypical characters have been displayed in his movies. He really upset a lot of people with that School Daze non-sense, propagating stereotypes between Light and Dark-skinned college students, and the various Greek Fraternities and Sororities, so he is in no position to openly criticize another African American film maker.
He makes it seem as if AA are one-dimensional people. There are many aspects of our societies, we should be no more ashamed of the "Madea" type relative than we are of the "Angela Davis" type. We are a diversified people, and sometimes it's good to just laugh at ourselves.
Tyler P. did try to get serious and exemplify 'successful' AA's in Why did I get married, and I think he dealt with real issues that affect the so-called Middle Class AA's in relationships.
I'm sick and tired of them behaving as if there's not enough room for more than one of them. Tyler P. has a right to be angry. IMO.
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Post by Charlie Bass on May 3, 2010 13:34:49 GMT -5
Spike Lee is such a hypocrite, I can't name how many stereotypical characters have been displayed in his movies. He really upset a lot of people with that School Daze non-sense, propagating stereotypes between Light and Dark-skinned college students, and the various Greek Fraternities and Sororities, so he is in no position to openly criticize another African American film maker. He makes it seem as if AA are one-dimensional people. There are many aspects of our societies, we should be no more ashamed of the "Madea" type relative than we are of the "Angela Davis" type. We are a diversified people, and sometimes it's good to just laugh at ourselves. Tyler P. did try to get serious and exemplify 'successful' AA's in Why did I get married, and I think he dealt with real issues that affect the so-called Middle Class AA's in relationships. I'm sick and tired of them behaving as if there's not enough room for more than one of them. Tyler P. has a right to be angry. IMO. Spike Lee is a hypocrite, I agree, but I'm no Tyler Perry fan, his movies directed and made specifically for black women and while he shows some professional blacks in his movies, his portrayal of black men is terrible. Most black men fall between the two extremes and good and bad, but in his movies there is always the real bad brother and the too perfect black man who can do no wrong, thats not reality thats fantasy. |
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Post by homeylu on May 3, 2010 23:39:17 GMT -5
^^ This is probably why he (Tyler) caters his movies for the Black woman. If you looked at it from a female perspective, you may get the underlying message. (Maybe Tyler is very in touch with his feminine side, lol). But seriously, I think that "too perfect Black man" is not exaggerated at all. In fact I would go on to say he is IGNORED, by the sisters searching for the wrong thing in a man. Money, power, good looks, sexual prowess, and entirely too much swagger (bad boy). If she was paying attention, she might notice that Bus driver with the beat-up Toyota might be better fitted for her than the brother in the Benz, or that handyman may fear God more than that professional athlete she's been eyeballing with too many women to count. Yes relationship issues are a good genre for Black women, actually women of any color. Face it, white collar sisters out number the men in their profession, and maybe they do need to pay more attention to some of the blue collar brothers, as I personally don't believe a higher tax bracket makes one a "good catch" in itself, as in one movie he displayed that very wealthy, yet controlling and abusive stock broker. I agree with you, the sisters love him!  |
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Post by Charlie Bass on May 4, 2010 10:15:51 GMT -5
^^ This is probably why he (Tyler) caters his movies for the Black woman. If you looked at it from a female perspective, you may get the underlying message. (Maybe Tyler is very in touch with his feminine side, lol). But seriously, I think that "too perfect Black man" is not exaggerated at all. In fact I would go on to say he is IGNORED, by the sisters searching for the wrong thing in a man. Money, power, good looks, sexual prowess, and entirely too much swagger (bad boy). If she was paying attention, she might notice that Bus driver with the beat-up Toyota might be better fitted for her than the brother in the Benz, or that handyman may fear God more than that professional athlete she's been eyeballing with too many women to count. Yes relationship issues are a good genre for Black women, actually women of any color. Face it, white collar sisters out number the men in their profession, and maybe they do need to pay more attention to some of the blue collar brothers, as I personally don't believe a higher tax bracket makes one a "good catch" in itself, as in one movie he displayed that very wealthy, yet controlling and abusive stock broker. I agree with you, the sisters love him! I'm still not a big fan of his movies, most people fall some where within the two extremes and no man or woman is 100% perfect, I don't agree with people who portray people in extremes and oh, at the end of damn near all of his movies there's a marriage scene of the "hurt sister" who overcame and found her "perfect" black man, that just doesn't reflect everyday reality to me. The only one of Tyler Perry's movies that I liked was Daddy's Little Girls, that was the realest of all his movies in the sense that its often overlooked that most black men do spend time caring for their children and or have contact with them and none of the characters in that movie were perfect. |
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Post by homeylu on May 4, 2010 11:25:18 GMT -5
Khafre, please explain how you define "perfect", I've seen almost all of his movies, and didn't find any character that met this definition. I find the character realistic, which is probably what makes them appeal to so many people. I think some of the actors were terrible, but that's a different story.
And what's wrong with a sister finding her "perfect" Black man. What may appear "perfect" to her, may be 'rubbish' to someone else. I remember in Madea's family reunion, the one insecure sister, who obviously made a few bad decisions, ended up falling in love with a Bus Driver.."perfect" for her, but just "some damn bus driver" to her bourgeois mother.
Also in Diary of a Mad Black Woman, had what appeared on the 'outside' as a perfect marriage to a successful lawyer, but in reality he was a chauvinist jerk. She found true love in a blue collar factory worker..Again, nothing extreme here.
And most of his stories are along these lines...trying to get sisters to look at these brothers they have been ignoring for too long. We know who his main audience is.
Come to think of "Daddy's Little Girls" were also along those line...Uppity successful corporate sister, ends up finding real love in a blue collar mechanic, that also happened to be a single father. There was more than one message in that movie, yes fatherhood was displayed in a positive light, but also dating across pretentious class lines. She was heavily criticized by her friends for dating "the help".
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Post by Charlie Bass on May 4, 2010 13:22:49 GMT -5
Khafre, please explain how you define "perfect", I've seen almost all of his movies, and didn't find any character that met this definition. I find the character realistic, which is probably what makes them appeal to so many people. I think some of the actors were terrible, but that's a different story. And what's wrong with a sister finding her "perfect" Black man. What may appear "perfect" to her, may be 'rubbish' to someone else. I remember in Madea's family reunion, the one insecure sister, who obviously made a few bad decisions, ended up falling in love with a Bus Driver.."perfect" for her, but just "some damn bus driver" to her bourgeois mother. What I mean is that in all of his movies, the men are portrayed two ways, there's always one black man who is extremely bad and then he portrays another as the "knight in shining armor" with no flaws who saves the hurt black woman from the extremely bad black man. Also in Diary of a Mad Black Woman, had what appeared on the 'outside' as a perfect marriage to a successful lawyer, but in reality he was a chauvinist jerk. She found true love in a blue collar factory worker..Again, nothing extreme here. His stories aren't about black women overlooking and then finding the good ones, his movies are all built around that vibe from A Color Purple and his main audience is black women, nothing appeals to black men. Thats all good but I think Perry is overrated by people who are desperate to see blacks being portrayed as anything other than negative stereotypical types. He's selling sistas fairytales, not reality and laughs all the way to the bank. I don't think most sistas are uppity when it comes to dating, I think they want quality and a man to be more than just a lover. I met my wife in a church that has all walks and classes within it and my job didn't matter to her, she liked my humor and the fact that i go to church as two things that stood out the most to her. |
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