Cocaine & Nicotine of Africa

[Tukuler al~Takruri]

from northern east Africa to west southern Africa.

[Tukuler al~Takruri]

... cocaine containing plants such as
• erythroxylum coca,
• erythroxylum novogranatense
etc and nicotine containing plants such as
• nicotiana tobacum,
• nicotiana rustica
etc are native American plants, many
other cocaine containing species of
erythroxylum and nicotine containing
species of nicotiana exist all around
the world, even in Africa itself

[Tukuler al~Takruri]

• Erythroxylum brownianum,
commonly known as the small leaf coca
tree is found today in deciduous forest
or scrub from Swaziland, Natal, eastern
Transvaal to Mozambique in south eastern
Africa. It has been and is still used today
traditionally as a medicine against cold
and flu by the local inhabitants.

• Erythroxlym platycladum,
which is found growing from northern
Kenya to northern Mozambique, and also
occurs in Madagascar and the Comoros
islands.

In fact there are literally over one hundred
different types of coca plant that are native
to Africa.

... information about these plants is scant
to say the least. But what we do know is many
contain cocaine and have a tradition of medicinal
use in Africa, potentially going back to Pharonic
times and perhaps much, much earlier.

[Tukuler al~Takruri]

The only native African tobacco plant is
• nicotiana africana,
today confined to the Brandberg, Erongo
and Spitzkuppe mountains in northern
Namibia. Nicotiana africana has been
found to contain up to two percent
nicotine, of its total alkaloid content,
with nornicotine and anabasine as the
primary alkaloids.

Another nicotine containing plant
• acacia nilotica
is recommended in the Ebers papyrus as
a vermifuge (to expel intestinal worms),
to ease diarrhea, internal bleeding and
also to treat skin diseases.

... various nicotine containing plants
from the nightshade family (to which
tobacco belongs) are native to Egypt
and Africa in general, such as
• atropa belladonna,
commonly know as deadly nightshade,
also mentioned in the Ebers papyrus, as
being useful as a pain reliever.

[Tukuler al~Takruri]

Erythroxylum brownianum natural medicine facts
www.naturalmedicinefacts.info/plant/erythroxylum-brownianum.html

African Plant Database, Erythroxylum platycladum
www.ville-ge.ch/musinfo/bd/cjb/africa/details.php?langue=an&id=202469

PAPYRUS EBERS, full text
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1894169/

The author: Brett Lothian is an Australian
author, professional arborist, market gardener
and ethnobotanist. He is the author of the
Tricho Serious Ethnobotany blog, creator of
the Trichocereus Cacti Appreciation group,
the Peyote Appreciation group and the
Ethnobotany Appreciation Society group
on facebook.

[Tukuler al~Takruri]

In the spirit of Kawaida and Dor Da`iym.

[anansi]

Al~ Takruri said:[ information about these plants is scant
to say the least. But what we do know is many
contain cocaine and have a tradition of medicinal
use in Africa, potentially going back to Pharonic
times and perhaps much, much earlier. ]
I have to review the vid again, but wasn't the tobacco found in the Pharaoh's tummy of the American species allegedly??

[Tukuler al~Takruri]

Is that an a priori assumption
or is that a verifiable fact?

Please provide documentation.
not argumentation, but raw data.


This is a rational science thread.
Emotional appeal and touchy feelies
are best presented in the other thrilling sensational thread.

Thank you

[anansi]

May 27, 2019 8:49:01 GMT -5 Tukuler al~Takruri said:

Is that an a priori assumption
or is that a verifiable fact?

Please provide documentation.
not argumentation, but raw data.


This is a rational science thread.
Emotional appeal and touchy feelies
are best presented in the other thrilling sensational thread.

Thank you

Ma bad I mixed up the tobacco with the cocaine thing working from faulty memory.

But it was not an assumption on my part, so reviewing the vid, Mystery Of The Cocaine Mummies. Time 34:31
[The narrator said that there are species of the coco family grown in Africa as you pointed out, but only the south American species have the drug.]
That's what I was asking is the plant in the mummies of African or the American variety.

[Tukuler al~Takruri]

YYT said:

Please provide documentation
not argumentation, but raw data.

What? Black Scholarship's just supposed
to take the word of some sensationalist
non credentialed narrator's word for it?

What kinda frickin methodology is that?

The same kind Eurocentrics rely on
to "debunk" sufficiently documented
facts we present in support of our
hard researched presentations on
AE etc.

Stop trolling my thread. Don't come
back here without the stated required
essentials. Save the feel good jaw
jacking for the other thread.

I'm serious. I mean it.

Name the species and document it from
written standard botanical/pharmacopoeia
sources or don't bother junking up my
thread with more of your wishology.

I'm not requiring contributors of
this thread do anything less than
I've done myself. And I can present
more like the African Coca Tree. So
nothing less is acceptable here. Prove
you're up to world class academic snuff
or bow out gracefully. Me? I know when
something's shown to be over my head
to shut up about it.



I asked for Bajan dolphin.
Don't serve me Jamaican cod.
<<smile>> but no joke. Shut me up!
Make me eat crow, I dare you.


It's impossible for a Erythroxylum
species not to produce cocaine. AE
cocaine is not in drug addict level
concentrations.

[Tukuler al~Takruri]

Staying directly on topic
w/o shifting goalposts and
in keeping w/t thread title
does anyone dispute these facts?

• Africa has native erythroxylum flora
• all erythroxylum species produce cocaine