Depictions of Ancient Middle Easterners and Aegeans

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A screenshot of Peter depicting him weeping after denying Christ three times

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A depiction of David getting captured by the Philistines in the town of Gath


 
A screenshot of Joseph being sold into slavery to the Ishamaelites, by his brothers

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A jar fragment of a Canaanite woman



A jar fragment of a Canaanite man

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Part of a mural showing a Sphinx found in the palace of Darius the great, at same site as Elamite soldiers



The entire mural of two Sphinx facing away from each other at the same site

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I found some more images of Middle Easterners, these artifacts are said to be of the Phoenicians, although one of them is probably from Carthage, nevertheless I think these artifacts are at least some of the closest representations of the mysterious people we come to call the Phoenicians.

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A bust of a Phoenician supposedly found in Carthage

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A mask of a Phoenician in Canaan

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Another mask of Phoenician, supposedly found in Carthage

[Tukuler al~Takruri]

Jul 19, 2019 10:37:08 GMT -5 Shadow said:

... For some reason these are the main images that most people tend to use, when it comes to observing Middle Easterners(this goes for both Eurocentric minds and Afrocentric minds), but apparently ignore images such as this, a tile depicting a bound Philistine captive.

 

Hmm, how come this tile depicting an Asiatic is ignored and not given any media coverage by mainstream Western Academics, but the other tiles are given enough coverage and attention? So, this is a dedication for the lost faces of the Ancient World that the have been purposely ignore by Western Academia, feel free to chime in, ...

The above img of an ancient Palestinian
(Philistine) and this one of a Hau Nebu

do support the Hebrew document B*reshiyth
stating that Philistines derive in part
from Aegeans. See profiles' similarities?
Note how the AE artist sketchbook differs
from the Cretan/Minoan reconstructions.


Boston Museum used to offer the top one
in laminated bookmarker form. A former
wife gifted it to me back in the 1980's
collections.mfa.org/objects/130485

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Jul 24, 2019 23:54:50 GMT -5 Tukuler al~Takruri said:

Jul 19, 2019 10:37:08 GMT -5 Shadow said:

... For some reason these are the main images that most people tend to use, when it comes to observing Middle Easterners(this goes for both Eurocentric minds and Afrocentric minds), but apparently ignore images such as this, a tile depicting a bound Philistine captive.

 

Hmm, how come this tile depicting an Asiatic is ignored and not given any media coverage by mainstream Western Academics, but the other tiles are given enough coverage and attention? So, this is a dedication for the lost faces of the Ancient World that the have been purposely ignore by Western Academia, feel free to chime in, ...

The above img of an ancient Palestinian
(Philistine) and this one of a Hau Nebu

do support the Hebrew document B*reshiyth
stating that Philistines derive in part
from Aegeans. See profiles' similarities?
Note how the AE artist sketchbook differs
from the Cretan/Minoan reconstructions.


Boston Museum used to offer the top one
in laminated bookmarker form. A former
wife gifted it to me back in the 1980's
collections.mfa.org/objects/130485

I have seen some evidence to support an Aegean presence in the Levant. I was a bit skeptical of it at first given that I was of the opinion that most Aegeans were generally fair skinned, but when I found the Egyptian mural of the Minoan tributaries, I was was very intrigued especially since I thought the Minoans were White. Then I did my homework and come to learn that the Minoans weren’t mainland Europeans but descendants of the second bunch of Middle Easterner migrants that spread agriculture to Europe. I was blown away by this due to the fact that these people weren’t necessarily European in origin, but genetically European anyway and just so happen to look like this:

[Tukuler al~Takruri]

Yes, the Minoan phenotype is intriguing.
Their homeland art depicts dark men and
dark women as well as light ones. Could
they have specifically picked Egyptian
complexioned men for their diplomatic
missions to Egypt?

AE's retouched some clothes in certain
Keftiu (Minoan) tribute bearer depictions
perhaps indicating regime changes in the
south Aegean.

Palestinian archaeology uncovered armor
and weapons of southwest(?) Aegean design.
Consider that with Goliath's war gear in mind.
It all adds to the Hebrew (Caphtor) and
Egyptian (homeless Sea Raiders) accounts
of non-Levantine origins for post 1200(?) BCE
Philistines.

Despite prior assessment of Libyan antecedents
of some Minoans, recent genetic studies find
Mykeneans had measurable African ancestry.
Puzzling?

Have you seen the fresco showing presumed
Minoan men with short springy locks? Some
are being defended while others were slain.

Been many years since I last studied
this topic so all the above is off the
top of my head.


I never saw a Hau Nebu image until you
posted one. Makes me rethink quite a few
things but mainly what relationship Keftiu
and Hau Nebu may have had with each other.
Considering the differing looks AE's gave to
the Keftiu, can the term be a little generic
as well as specific? Does it hint of Minoan
'settlements or colonies' in the northeastern
Mediterranean (i.e., southern Anatolia northern
Levant)? Or does it jibe with their geneticist
claimed Anatolia origins?



EDIT
www.egyptsearch.com/forums/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=8;t=001310#000006

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Jul 25, 2019 9:55:31 GMT -5 Tukuler al~Takruri said:

Yes, the Minoan phenotype is intriguing.
Their homeland art depicts dark men and
dark women as well as light ones. Could
they have specifically picked Egyptian
complexioned men for their diplomatic
missions to Egypt?

AE's retouched some clothes in certain
Keftiu (Minoan) tribute bearer depictions
perhaps indicating regime changes in the
south Aegean.

Palestinian archaeology uncovered armor
and weapons of southwest(?) Aegean design.
Consider that with Goliath's war gear in mind.
It all adds to the Hebrew (Caphtor) and
Egyptian (homeless Sea Raiders) accounts
of non-Levantine origins for post 1200(?) BCE
Philistines.

Despite prior assessment of Libyan antecedents
of some Minoans, recent genetic studies find
Mykeneans had measurable African ancestry.
Puzzling?

Have you seen the fresco showing presumed
Minoan men with short springy locks? Some
are being defended while others were slain.

Been many years since I last studied
this topic so all the above is off the
top of my head.


I never saw a Hau Nebu image until you
posted one. Makes me rethink quite a few
things but mainly what relationship Keftiu
and Hau Nebu may have had with each other.
Considering the differing looks AE's gave to
the Keftiu, can the term be a little generic
as well as specific? Does it hint of Minoan
'settlements or colonies' in the northeastern
Mediterranean (i.e., southern Anatolia northern
Levant)? Or does it jibe with their geneticist
claimed Anatolia origins?

I think I remember seeing a fresco just like the one you just described, but I can’t remember where I found the fresco. That was awhile back, so I have to look for it. Is it the one with the men wearing leopard clothing being slain by men in armor? Speaking of armor, here is an article from the website Medium that goes into detail about the armor that the infamous Sea Peoples.

medium.com/the-bronze-age/intro-to-the-armour-of-the-sea-peoples-part-1-b35144d3f099

It an eye opener to how the Sea Peoples would have dressed in battle and what they would of looked like, especially since people generally don’t consider the Sea Peoples as being a mixed bunch, but a purely Mediterranean fair skinned population. Interesting enough, in the article the guy added the mural of the Minoan tributaries above and referenced it from Egyptsearch. You can go on the author’s page on Medium where he have various articles touching the entire episode of the Sea Peoples and their equipment they used in battle.

Here’s the link to page: medium.com/the-bronze-age/the-much-wider-minoan-presence-f862e55a6f81

As for my opinion about the Minoans origin? I think they were one of the remnants of the previous indigenous population that once dominated both the Eastern Mediterranean and the entire Aegean area in prehistoric times and continuing on to the 4th-1st millennium BCE. Their genetic signature would have been where they were situated that is in the Aegean/Anatolia. Given that they were said to be European, I could understand why they that might be since they are descendants of the first spreaders of agriculture to Europe. So it plausible to say that they were only one of many indigenous isolated groups in the Aegean that didn’t got assimilated or displaced, at least not early on, by migrating fair-skinned folk from surrounding areas of the North(Caucasus, Balkans, Black Sea realm). I believe that there were some genetic input from the Nile Valley into the Aegean, as Greek legends maintained and another Levantine input into the Aegean. I do believe that the Greeks denoted the Levant as being Ethiopia before changing the location to the Nile Valley and India. Although, I think that their partial African ancestry was also due to the fact that they descended from those peoples that originated from the Nile Valley and dispersed from out of Africa and well you know the rest.

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Update 8/31/19

Just thought that I post some wonderful more images of Ancient Middle Easterners, that I recently found. By the way, these images are colorless.



A moulded clay brick panel of a Elamite Goddess



Another moulded clay brick relief of a Elamite God

(Edit) Screehshot of another moulded clay brick relief of an Elamite God

Update 10/28/19



(Edit) A screenshot of an Elamite King or Priest

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A relief of Elamite men celebrating



The same relief depicting Elamite women and children celebrating

(Edit) A depiction of an Elamite Priestess

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A relief of an Elamite archer

(Edit) a depiction of an Elamite girl holding a vase

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(Edit) A depiction of an Elamite Goddess

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A perfectly preserved relief of a Libyan, a Canaanite, a Syian and a Nubian bowing



A worn off relief Syrians and Libyans war prisoners bowing, from the tomb of the viceroy Biban el-Mumuk



A colorless relief of Syrian, Nubian, and Libyan Princes paying tribute to King Tutankhamen



A snapshot of a Syrian captive, from the tomb of Horemheb

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A colorless relief of Sea Peoples, mostly of Levantine and Libyan origin being marched by the Egyptians

This model depicting a crew are said to be Canaanites

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A model of a freight boat; on board the captain addresses the Canaanite crew

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Update 9/28/19

More wonderful pictures



A relief of Canaanite herdsmen paying tribute to King Akhenaten



A jar head of the Canaanite God, Mot



Another Human-headed ivory from Lachish



Human-headed ivory from Lachish, Late Bronze Age



A figurine from Iron Age, Lachish



Ivory statuette heads from the Fosse temple in Lachish

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Canaanite sarcophagus masks

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Some images of a black basalt head of Canaanite God



A Canaanite ivory head

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Update 10/26/19



Traditional bound enemies of Egypt, the nine bows with figures of an Asiatic and a Nubian prisoner

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Update 10/28/19



Screenshot of an Aegean/Keftiu







Screenshots of the Aamu

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Reconstruction of a mural of Amenhotep III and Queen Tiye Enthroned Beneath a Kiosk, from the Tomb of Anen in Upper Egypt, Thebes, Sheikh Abd el-Qurna



The mural before restoration







Screenshots of bound captives from Syria, Ethiopia, Libya, Anatolia, and Mesopotamia





Screenshots of two Asiatics, two Nubians, and a Libyan getting trampled or stepped on