Post by anansi on Jan 16, 2020 5:38:50 GMT -5
Tukuler al~ Takruri said
( Wondering about proposed Takruri Lemtuna alliance not early on but specifically at the time of Wagadu's 1076-7 minor decline.
Your third quote notes what I still haven't seen enough to substantiate, ie, any al-Murabitun conquest of Wagadu.
Is there more to confirm what's more likely, ie, those two teaming up to Islamize unconverted Sudane.)
Well that's what decades of repeated instructions produced, An auto response on my part, even though knowing from previous threads that , a conquest of Wagadu simply wasn't a thing, but disruption and change did took place.
Gotta be mindful and unlearned some of the past instructions, thanks for not letting it slide.
Btw the idea of what constitutes " al Sudan " is like the shifting sands depending on who is writing, it may have started as far north as Merrakesh and of Sijilmasa, with one of the founding fathers a Sudani himself and the reality of Takur participation.
Where did these " white slave women ultimately hailed from??.
( Wondering about proposed Takruri Lemtuna alliance not early on but specifically at the time of Wagadu's 1076-7 minor decline.
Your third quote notes what I still haven't seen enough to substantiate, ie, any al-Murabitun conquest of Wagadu.
Is there more to confirm what's more likely, ie, those two teaming up to Islamize unconverted Sudane.)
Well that's what decades of repeated instructions produced, An auto response on my part, even though knowing from previous threads that , a conquest of Wagadu simply wasn't a thing, but disruption and change did took place.
Gotta be mindful and unlearned some of the past instructions, thanks for not letting it slide.
Btw the idea of what constitutes " al Sudan " is like the shifting sands depending on who is writing, it may have started as far north as Merrakesh and of Sijilmasa, with one of the founding fathers a Sudani himself and the reality of Takur participation.
al~ Bakrī mentions a “cathedral mosque and many smaller ones, all well attended” in Awdaghust, a pattern found elsewhere in the early Sudan in which Islam gradually gathers force.
However, al-Muhallabī’s fourth/tenth-century claim that Awdaghust’s “people are Muslims,” while true of its North African merchants and even a segment of the Ṣanhāja, would not have been applicable to the town’s many residents from Ghana, who were not Muslim.
The residents of Awdaghust in fact boasted an assortment of origins, including “Sūdān women [who] excel at cooking delicious confections [and] pretty slave girls with white complexions, good figures, firm breasts, slim waists, fat buttocks, wide shoulders and sexual organs so narrow that one of them may be enjoyed as though she were a virgin indefinitely. [/]
However, al-Muhallabī’s fourth/tenth-century claim that Awdaghust’s “people are Muslims,” while true of its North African merchants and even a segment of the Ṣanhāja, would not have been applicable to the town’s many residents from Ghana, who were not Muslim.
The residents of Awdaghust in fact boasted an assortment of origins, including “Sūdān women [who] excel at cooking delicious confections [and] pretty slave girls with white complexions, good figures, firm breasts, slim waists, fat buttocks, wide shoulders and sexual organs so narrow that one of them may be enjoyed as though she were a virgin indefinitely. [/]
Where did these " white slave women ultimately hailed from??.
The same can said of Sijilmasa, with residents from Basra, Kufa, and Baghdad, but also none enslaved “blacks,” its very founding in 140/757–8 attributed to ‘Īsā b. Mazīd “the Black.” Awdaghust would play an active role in the Sahel, pillaging Awgham and killing its king in 350/961–2 with a camelry of one hundred thousand, while reportedly receiving tribute from over twenty Sudanese rulers.18 The Almoravids would view Awdaghust as a threat the following century.