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Post by anansi on Aug 16, 2020 20:05:19 GMT -5
This is a back and forth of content creators from YouTube, Bro al~Takruri said recently our type of media is kinda passe , and it's ok to past the torch so to speak, but it's interesting looking at these guys interact.
If you have some down time, pls view, both these guy are or were members of this house , so special congratulations to them.
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Post by zarahan on Aug 20, 2020 20:08:55 GMT -5
Takruri, clarify a bit. How do you mean media is kinda passe? Blaxploitation? Inaccurate
Afro enthusiasm like pyramid levitation etc? Shuck and jive comedic approaches?j
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Derek says there is more content on Egypt and the Nile Valley rather than West/Central Africa where
we come from. I would agree in general because there is much more published info on Egypt and
Nile Valley, but would add that "we come from" the same people that are Egyptians, Nubians
Ethiopians, etc, because, we, like they, are tropical Africans. Also given the long and
continuing history of distortion, deception and downplaying- trying to excise or marginalize
Egypt away from Africa, there would be a lot of push-back from aware Afro-Am students. If we focus
on West Africa, basically the ground is conceded to the distorters. Given the history there
really needs to be strong pushback. The Nile Valley is our inheritance as much as Gulf of Guinea.
To paraphrase a once popular meme- "ALL THE BASE, belong to us."
The above being said, I think his point fair and would be a salutary caution against Egyptocentrism,
including folk who want Egypt to be some sort of central headquarters of advances in Africa, or mystical,
magical center of all good things in Africa, particularly on social media. I can't tell you how many
times on Facebook I have seen sheer tomfoolery: floating Atlantis, pyramidial star chambers, alien
portals, etc etc invoked to explain away various advances in Africa. Some of it is deliberate
disinformation, but some people on the other hand actually seem to believe that stuff.
When you think about it though, I would say it is balanced between Egypt and other African areas.
This can be seen in baby names, dress, styles etc etc- which Af-Ams key more to West Africa
than Egypt. Even Kwanza, while focusing on East African Swahili type culture with some West
African strands mixed in, is not Egyptocentric at all. Af-Ams in general do not obsess on Egypt.
Af-Am African heroes same thing- people are more keyed to Shaka, Mansa Musa etc, not Tutankhamem
or Rameses.
If you have some down time, pls view, both these guy are or were members of this house
Anansi, were they members of ES or ESR? Some time ago I noticed they seemed to be using a lot
of stuff we compiled, plus some of the Wikipedia articles various members have written or
heavily contributed to like African Military Systems series.
so special congratulations to them.
Indeed. I like what these guys are doing in animation, and how they are using social media to spread their
are and develop awareness. This is a new direction for the digital age, updating all the find
African print/hard copy artists of the past. Look at the fine illustrations in Chancellor
Williams "Destruction of Black Civilization" - it is absolutely great. Art like that needs to
be multiplied across the board, rather than the dry text of most books. Adapting such to the
digital medium is pushing the boundaries forward.
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Post by anansi on Aug 20, 2020 23:18:32 GMT -5
Both were here at ESR at one time or another, I don't think they were at ES , tho they may had visited, it's great to see them grow.
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Post by anansi on Aug 21, 2020 6:29:34 GMT -5
Oh can I forget about this from a few wks back. This is exactly what one of the wealthiest, most influential person on the planet believe apparently. Egypt has invited billionaire Elon Musk to visit the country and see for himself that its famous pyramids were not built by aliens.
www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-53627888 Some Ppl should just stay in their lane..😀 |
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Post by Tukuler al~Takruri on Aug 21, 2020 15:10:14 GMT -5
Takruri, clarify a bit. How do you mean media is kinda passe? -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Indeed. I like what these guys are doing in animation, and how they are using social media to spread their
art and develop awareness. This is a new direction for the digital age, updating all the find
African print/hard copy artists of the past. Look at the fine illustrations in Chancellor
Williams "Destruction of Black Civilization" - it is absolutely great. Art like that needs to
be multiplied across the board, rather than the dry text of most books. Adapting such to the
digital medium is pushing the boundaries forward. so special congratulations to them. in our form of Group Forum Board is outdated. That's a reason few active members and infrequent posts. New Media offers ease and convenience as well as short attention span gratification (except those 3 hr long YouTube jobbies -- dudes, really more n hour dose at a time is bo-ring. Run it down in digestible segments or episodes). What I've quoted from you is what I'm talking about. MEDIA, aged and dying. NEW MEDIA, down with 'Today's Ppl'. At least with transmedia YouTube you can bomb people with your dope if you have an alluring professional Cable Ready production docu-tainment. It's the way of this 21st century world we live in. There's no going back. When I grow up I wanna be HomeTeamHistory. |
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Post by zarahan on Aug 23, 2020 19:34:37 GMT -5
Agreed, and its good to see they are using some of the hard stuff we have compiled.
They are not as slick as the well known channels like KINGS AND GENERALS OR HISTORYDOSE.
Many of their vids are basic slideshows with voice-overs. But they are in the early phases
and no doubt will incorporate more advanced animation effects over time. HomeTeam hasn't
done too badly though.
What I've quoted from you is what I'm talking about.
MEDIA, aged and dying. NEW MEDIA, down with 'Today's Ppl'
True. You could say there was the Diop/VanSertima/Molefi/Williams generation.
After than is the guys now in their 50s+ (college & non-college) during the heyday of
the Black Athena/Mary Lefkowitz culture wars of the 1990s. They and others in
that decade, have carried the basic themes and principles forward with new data.
The next gen needs to still keep good data in place but hopefully as you say breaks
it down for the digital age. You need both- good data and digital age adjusts
for with Google, people can now verify (or unverify) your factual base much
more easily as in the past.
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Post by zarahan on Aug 23, 2020 20:22:26 GMT -5
Oh can I forget about this from a few wks back. This is exactly what one of the wealthiest, most influential person on the planet believe apparently. Egypt has invited billionaire Elon Musk to visit the country and see for himself that its famous pyramids were not built by aliens.
www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-53627888 Some Ppl should just stay in their lane..😀 LOL, Indeed. In the year 2020 we should not have to be explaining why alien portals are dubious to explain Kemet accomplishments. But that's a danger that has passed over into the "new gen" digital/ internet age. Maybe there are 3 dangers in the "new" digital age. 1- RELIGIO/MYSTERIO- focus on this aspect feels good, but myth/fantasy issues undermine credibility of African Egypt. Allows for much distortion by opponents who can "spin" Afri-Egyptian history as the product of cranks or pop culture meme makers. Also allows diversion from solid base of evidence in the field. Seen often on social media. 2- "BLACKER THAN THOU AFROCENTRISM"- uses but also distorts the science to push a particular brand of "Afrocentrism" that proponents insist is the only "truth" -like a "black everything" approach- if you have non-pale skin- you black, etc etc, or blacks alleged;y fleeing from Assyrians etc, to found civilization in the rest of Africa as if West/East/Central Africa had nothing significant going on before "refugees from Egypt" showed up circa 600- 700BC and so on. Any who disagree are Uncle Toms, racists. etc. 3- "SCIENTICISM" dangers- focus on minutiae while missing bigger pictures and neglecting education to broader audience. Thus there is little consideration as the breaking things down to aid understanding of the masses, or the bigger picture of how technical detail fits into a broader theme or principle is ignored or slighted. These are crude, over simplified divisions but help to illustrate some of the divides in the field. On the other hand are scholars who see an 'Asante versus Diop" divide- Diop's more scientific approach versus Asante's more cultural/rhetorical model. I think both strands work together- its not either-or, but here's his argument below for what its worth, and no doubt raises some issues for the "new" Internet era. weblog.liberatormagazine.com/2014/06/past-afrocentricity-reassessing-cheikh.htmlPast Afrocentricity: Reassessing Cheikh Anta Diop's Place In the Afrocentric Frame |
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