Egyptians to Chad.....and hence the Atlantic ?

[kel]

egyptianexpedition.org/articles/the-west-beyond-the-west-the-mysterious-wernes-of-the-egyptian-underworld-and-the-chad-palaeolake/

file:///C:/Users/admin/Documents/ThomasSchneider.pdf

This proves that the AE and Nile Valley peoples had access to the Atlantic via the mega lake cha remnants, and draining rivers into the Niger River and then Atlantic.

the timing circa 2000 BC. this is around the time of the rise of the Olmecs. Perhaps this is how the AE influences reach the New World.

[anansi]

Thanks kel ,great link, downloaded the entire thing in book form, Lake Chad as the Duat? interesting, the connects were real despite opinions to the contrary, however I don’t know if trying to get to the Atlantic and beyond by that direction is necessary, when they could’ve just weigh anchor and set sail from ports on the Med, seemed like a lot of trouble, however I’m not gonna poo poo the theory, for it is possible.

[kel]

This also helps explain as well AE influences in West Africa. AsarImhotep has made AE influences on Yoruba culture one of the subjects of his research and has uncovered linguistic and cultural links that prove contact.


Child of Obatala                                                Bes
                                         

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[zarahan]

Sept 21, 2021 1:55:15 GMT -5 anansi said:

Thanks kel ,great link, downloaded the entire thing in book form, Lake Chad as the Duat? interesting, the connects were real despite opinions to the contrary, however I don’t know if trying to get to the Atlantic and beyond by that direction is necessary, when they could’ve just weigh anchor and set sail from ports on the Med, seemed like a lot of trouble, however I’m not gonna poo poo the theory, for it is possible.

Yeap there are definitely connections between the Chadic zone and Egypt as we
have sometimes seen on ES, including links between Egyptian and the CHadic languages.
But to jump from this to some sort of "Atlantic" connection via CHad is a real stretch.
The paleolake Lake Chad was actually SHRINKING by the time Egyptian civ was forming\
up, not expanding westward. 2000BC saw even more shrinkage. There is thus no Lake
Chad conduit to the Atlantic to tie in with alleged "Olmecs" circa 2000BC.
Per the article itself the lake by the time 2000BC rolled around the lake was
but a fraction of the mega-lake that once was:

"LMC had its largest extent between
7500 and 6950 cal. b.p. (5500–4950 bce), when the lake’s surface
area measured approximately 361,000 km2. The lake was
therefore equivalent in surface area to the Caspian Sea, in surface
area the largest lake that exists on earth today. In the
northern section, LMC reached an approximate depth of at
least 150 m; in its southern part, around 40 m.21 The desiccation
and decrease of LMC can be dated to the third millennium
bce, between 5280 and 4410 cal. b.p. (3280–2410 bce).[
By 4000 cal. b.p. (2000 bce), the beginning of the Egyptian
Middle Kingdom, the lake had retreated from an earlier 305 m
shoreline and, as a consequence, had split into a larger northern
lake in the Bodélé Depression and smaller Lake Chad in the
south (with an insignificant third lake, Lake Fitri, to the east.. "


As for the Olmecs, their culture had its first distinctive appearance circa
1600–1500 BCE, centuries AFTER the shrinking Lake Chad kept on shrinking. So hopes
of any trans-Atlantic tie-in via the Lake to Olmec-land are dubious.
But even before the Olmecs, the shrinking lake puts a spike in assorted speculations.
Van Sertima's approach and contact model and time frame are more credible compared
to such.

[kel]

Yes, but the Mega Lake shrank into two smaller lakes: Lake Chad and Lake Bodele (I left that out not thinking I had to explain that)

Lake Bodele to Lake Chad to Mayo Kebbi river to Benoue River to Niger to the Atlantic. All viable at around 2000 B.C. which coincies with proof of Egyptian presence in Chad and the rise of PreOlmec to Olmec periods.

In other words, the remaining Lakes and interconnecting waterways would have provided Nile Valley to Atlantic transportation: trade, language, ideas, tech, etc.

There is a reason BES is found in the New World amongst the Olmecs

www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pgz8Z8CUQWw

see 30:35  

(also noticeable, the elephant headed/human scupture and the sculpture of the elephant trunk)

contact could also have come via the meiterranean as well. But since we see Bes as Child of Obatala and again in Olmec Mexico it also could have been via Nigeria.

[kel]

More info on this matter:

The little talked about YELLOW NILE which stretches out into Sudan. 


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"This wadi – also called the "Yellow Nile" – is a former tributary of the Nile running from Ennedi range, in Chad, through Darfur and Kordofan and joining the Nile at el-Debba, north of the great bend of the Nile, 100 km south of Kerma, where the first Kushite state was founded around 2500 BCE. As Eastern Sahara underwent desertification, between 5000 and 3500 BCE, the Wadi Howar attracted a numerous population, especially from the North, until its course became disrupted and finally just temporary around the middle of the 2nd millenium BCE."

The Yellow Nile links Chad with Kush/Nubia/Egypt. The travel implications then are obvious....