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Post by jari on Sept 23, 2010 16:18:00 GMT -5
I am willing to bet that like the conquistadors monument that was planned for Mexico it is the elites that really wants this and the ordinary everyday folks. We are not talking about Conquistadors but Christopher Columbus, Apples and Oranges except in the textbooks of the Afrocentric/Arabcentric apologetics 1301- If there is an explorer and he or she is European Equate the Explorer with later Warlike Invading armies say the European is responsible for the Massacure of later Europeans, Paint all Europeans as one Entity and All in the Same Mind Set to Kill the Indians and Enslave Africans(DO NOT DO THIS FOR AFRICANS OR ARABS), if He or She is African or Arab the Explorer should be Celebrated-I.E Estavan the Moor and the Buffalo Soldiers.
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Post by scv on Sept 29, 2010 12:28:10 GMT -5
No one thinks Columbus Discovered America, they are celebrating because he actually RECORDED his Visit in detail and Told other Empires how to get back to the Americas. Leading to the Founding of European civilization being Colonized on the Americas. Then the less reason to celebrate, for a recording?Come on.
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Post by jari on Sept 29, 2010 21:50:09 GMT -5
No one thinks Columbus Discovered America, they are celebrating because he actually RECORDED his Visit in detail and Told other Empires how to get back to the Americas. Leading to the Founding of European civilization being Colonized on the Americas. Then the less reason to celebrate, for a recording?Come on. The fact that Columbus RECORDED his voyage is the reason why Europeans, Africans and Asians have Migrated to the Americas and mixed with the Native people. Prior to that is speculation other than Vikings in Iceland and Vinland. Recordings are very important to history sir, considering that "Recording" events and spirituality is highly celebrated by the likes here who uphold Egypt as the first literate society. Admit it the problem you all have with Columbus is he is a European, had he been African you same people would be posting on how Historic Columbus' voyage was. Amazing how simple shade of Skin and Ethnic Origin dictates how you all operate..LMAO Even Brada knows this which is why he is avoiding this thread like the plague..he got busted. HE don't wanna go at it with me, I spit Hot FIRE son.
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Post by anansi on Sept 29, 2010 22:49:09 GMT -5
Then the less reason to celebrate, for a recording?Come on. The fact that Columbus RECORDED his voyage is the reason why Europeans, Africans and Asians have Migrated to the Americas and mixed with the Native people. Prior to that is speculation other than Vikings in Iceland and Vinland. Recordings are very important to history sir, considering that "Recording" events and spirituality is highly celebrated by the likes here who uphold Egypt as the first literate society. Admit it the problem you all have with Columbus is he is a European, had he been African you same people would be posting on how Historic Columbus' voyage was. Amazing how simple shade of Skin and Ethnic Origin dictates how you all operate..LMAO Even Brada knows this which is why he is avoiding this thread like the plague..he got busted. HE don't wanna go at it with me, I spit Hot FIRE son. Jeri Jeri Jeri..Me avoiding a show down? com on you know better that, listen Columbus is not to hyped by me, because he was the one who started it all he set the standard after he met the natives who showed him great hospitality and viewed how peaceful their societies were, he turned around and said they show be converted adopt our ways and made to do work, under his watch he had natives dig for gold and had their hand chopped off if they came up short on their quota this is very similar to Leopard of the Congo so lets build a monument to him too shall we.
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Post by scv on Sept 30, 2010 7:17:14 GMT -5
The fact that Columbus RECORDED his voyage is the reason why Europeans, Africans and Asians have Migrated to the Americas and mixed with the Native people. Prior to that is speculation other than Vikings in Iceland and Vinland. Recordings are very important to history sir, considering that "Recording" events and spirituality is highly celebrated by the likes here who uphold Egypt as the first literate society. Admit it the problem you all have with Columbus is he is a European, had he been African you same people would be posting on how Historic Columbus' voyage was. Amazing how simple shade of Skin and Ethnic Origin dictates how you all operate..LMAO Even Brada knows this which is why he is avoiding this thread like the plague..he got busted. HE don't wanna go at it with me, I spit Hot FIRE son. But the thing is that people are celebrating his "discovery", not his recordings, people say the "dicovery"day, not the recording day, or the Archive day.No, I prefer the day to be the indigenous day, where Christophr "records' Amerindians, so is their day, not christopher's
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Post by jari on Sept 30, 2010 7:59:31 GMT -5
The fact that Columbus RECORDED his voyage is the reason why Europeans, Africans and Asians have Migrated to the Americas and mixed with the Native people. Prior to that is speculation other than Vikings in Iceland and Vinland. Recordings are very important to history sir, considering that "Recording" events and spirituality is highly celebrated by the likes here who uphold Egypt as the first literate society. Admit it the problem you all have with Columbus is he is a European, had he been African you same people would be posting on how Historic Columbus' voyage was. Amazing how simple shade of Skin and Ethnic Origin dictates how you all operate..LMAO Even Brada knows this which is why he is avoiding this thread like the plague..he got busted. HE don't wanna go at it with me, I spit Hot FIRE son. Jeri Jeri Jeri..Me avoiding a show down? com on you know better that, listen Columbus is not to hyped by me, because he was the one who started it all he set the standard after he met the natives who showed him great hospitality and viewed how peaceful their societies were, he turned around and said they show be converted adopt our ways and made to do work, under his watch he had natives dig for gold and had their hand chopped off if they came up short on their quota this is very similar to Leopard of the Congo so lets build a monument to him too shall we. Like I said Columbus is nothing but one person in a long line of Historical Invaders of different lands, people from the Moors to the Arabs and Africans have all invaded, conquered, and enslaved other people under harsh conditions..Yet they are celebrated by you and your cohorts You don't care about what he did because some of the people you celebrate did the same Ish, you care about jumping on the band wagon and hating anything Europeans have done. Save the Pity Party crap from suppertime boy.
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Post by jari on Sept 30, 2010 8:05:13 GMT -5
The fact that Columbus RECORDED his voyage is the reason why Europeans, Africans and Asians have Migrated to the Americas and mixed with the Native people. Prior to that is speculation other than Vikings in Iceland and Vinland. Recordings are very important to history sir, considering that "Recording" events and spirituality is highly celebrated by the likes here who uphold Egypt as the first literate society. Admit it the problem you all have with Columbus is he is a European, had he been African you same people would be posting on how Historic Columbus' voyage was. Amazing how simple shade of Skin and Ethnic Origin dictates how you all operate..LMAO Even Brada knows this which is why he is avoiding this thread like the plague..he got busted. HE don't wanna go at it with me, I spit Hot FIRE son. But the thing is that people are celebrating his "discovery", not his recordings, people say the "dicovery"day, not the recording day, or the Archive day.No, I prefer the day to be the indigenous day, where Christophr "records' Amerindians, so is their day, not christopher's Like I said no one Celebrates Columbus as Discovering the Americas anymore..Slowly he is being written out of history and more is given to the Vikings for being the first to put settlement in the New World and Zeng He also might have made it to the America's before Columbus and made a map. So stop whining your camp is winning the fight, No one likes Columbus anymore you all sound like little children crying over spilled Milk, No One Likes Columbus, He is no longer Credited as being the First Westerner or New World person to Step foot in the Americas, He is no longer celebrated, Majority of Info is Slander against him..Yet this aint enough to satisify you Afrocentrics
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Post by scv on Sept 30, 2010 10:50:55 GMT -5
Like I said no one Celebrates Columbus as Discovering the Americas anymore..Slowly he is being written out of history and more is given to the Vikings for being the first to put settlement in the New World and Zeng He also might have made it to the America's before Columbus and made a map. So stop whining your camp is winning the fight, No one likes Columbus anymore you all sound like little children crying over spilled Milk, No One Likes Columbus, He is no longer Credited as being the First Westerner or New World person to Step foot in the Americas, He is no longer celebrated, Majority of Info is Slander against him..Yet this aint enough to satisify you Afrocentrics What credit?I am not afrocentrist, who is whining?The ones who started it was you. lol
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Post by jari on Sept 30, 2010 11:20:25 GMT -5
Like I said no one Celebrates Columbus as Discovering the Americas anymore..Slowly he is being written out of history and more is given to the Vikings for being the first to put settlement in the New World and Zeng He also might have made it to the America's before Columbus and made a map. So stop whining your camp is winning the fight, No one likes Columbus anymore you all sound like little children crying over spilled Milk, No One Likes Columbus, He is no longer Credited as being the First Westerner or New World person to Step foot in the Americas, He is no longer celebrated, Majority of Info is Slander against him..Yet this aint enough to satisify you Afrocentrics What credit?I am not afrocentrist, who is whining?The ones who started it was you. lol Actually I stated a clear opinion.."Whats the Big Deal" knowing I would get a bunch of Crocodile tears and Pity Party Band Wagon Bull about Columbus setting off the Killing and enslavement and Rape of Native Americans. So again WHATS THE BIG DEAL?? You people celebrate Africans and Arabs who did the same if not WORSE than Columbus and invading Europeans and Lets not even TALK ABOUT the Native Americans themselves who were at war and some clans even SIDED with the Euros to take down other powerful tribes. You people don't want or care about unbiased history, You want to paint Europeans as Evil and uphold Arabs and Africans and the occasional Asian on some pedalstool and I set the trap. Like I said stop whining already, Just Google Columbus and you will see no one Likes him any more and people don't credit him for discovering the Americas anymore, Be Satisfied already. Like I said you and your cohorts won't stop until every European is erased out of History, then you all can Image a glorious past that was never there, acting like you handed the Europeans civilization. Don't try to fair and balanced now SON, I already exposed you. And To Brada, Come on Dude, you don't remember how I exposed and Debunked you on the Christianity Thread and proved how the sources and people you used to quote on E.S(ZEITGEIST) Like Achria S actually CHANGED the So called Horus being born on Dec. 25th, to being Born every day, Isis NOT really being a Virgin..etc. You don't remember, I guess the beat down left some Mental problems..LOL BTW, Im waiting for those Primary Egyptian Texts..You sent them to The Zeitgeist Challenge and claimed your prize yet..LMAO
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Post by anansi on Sept 30, 2010 17:32:20 GMT -5
What credit?I am not afrocentrist, who is whining?The ones who started it was you. lol Actually I stated a clear opinion.."Whats the Big Deal" knowing I would get a bunch of Crocodile tears and Pity Party Band Wagon Bull about Columbus setting off the Killing and enslavement and Rape of Native Americans. So again WHATS THE BIG DEAL?? You people celebrate Africans and Arabs who did the same if not WORSE than Columbus and invading Europeans and Lets not even TALK ABOUT the Native Americans themselves who were at war and some clans even SIDED with the Euros to take down other powerful tribes. You people don't want or care about unbiased history, You want to paint Europeans as Evil and uphold Arabs and Africans and the occasional Asian on some pedalstool and I set the trap. Like I said stop whining already, Just Google Columbus and you will see no one Likes him any more and people don't credit him for discovering the Americas anymore, Be Satisfied already. Like I said you and your cohorts won't stop until every European is erased out of History, then you all can Image a glorious past that was never there, acting like you handed the Europeans civilization. Don't try to fair and balanced now SON, I already exposed you. And To Brada, Come on Dude, you don't remember how I exposed and Debunked you on the Christianity Thread and proved how the sources and people you used to quote on E.S(ZEITGEIST) Like Achria S actually CHANGED the So called Horus being born on Dec. 25th, to being Born every day, Isis NOT really being a Virgin..etc. You don't remember, I guess the beat down left some Mental problems..LOL BTW, Im waiting for those Primary Egyptian Texts..You sent them to The Zeitgeist Challenge and claimed your prize yet..LMAO Jeri I have no problem with the natives of Spain or Europe in general celebrating Columbus he benefited them greatly the descendants of those early Euros are still smiling all the way to the bank..and Jeri show us were any African/Arab army behaved worst than any 16 cent. European. you see I have to look at history a little differently than most Euros,because my personal as well as collective ancestors were fighting those guys sometimes the gain sometimes they lost but don't ask me to get all warm and fuzzy inside about Columbus and others. And to all the good folks here at E.S.R take the time to read through the exchanges we had on the topic see if a beat-down did take place or not although that is not the point of the post. egyptsearchreloaded.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=pav&action=display&thread=378go here^please.
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Post by jari on Sept 30, 2010 19:55:36 GMT -5
Jeri I have no problem with the natives of Spain or Europe in general celebrating Columbus he benefited them greatly the descendants of those early Euros are still smiling all the way to the bank. Like I said you are a biased revisionist, First off Columbus had nothing to do with N. American colonies as John Cabot discovered N. America for the Brits Not Columbus and Columbus did not make squat off of his discovery as he was jailed for his treatment of the Natives. So who is smiling all the way to the bank besides the Jewish factions who profited off of The Americas.
and Jeri show us were any African/Arab army behaved worst than any 16 cent. European. You're Kidding Right, Ever heard of the Banu Quarza Massacure, the Banu Hilial Wars, The Moorish Conquest, Rape, and Beheadings in Europe, the Persecution of the Copts in Egypt, The Burning and Razing of Dongola and Makuria by the Arab Egyptians, the Massacure of Rival Non Muslim Tribes by Askia Muhammed and the Moroccan Invasion of West Africa and the pillaging of Timbuctou...Come on Son, .
you see I have to look at history a little differently than most Euros,because my personal as well as collective ancestors were fighting those guys sometimes the gain sometimes they lost but don't ask me to get all warm and fuzzy inside about Columbus and others. Yeah and Your "Ancestors" were Fighting the African and Arabs that rounded their Black asses up and sold your ass as slaves to Jamaicans Slave Holders. Your Ancestors were put in Dungeons and Dragged through a Desert by Africans and Arabs yet no problem with them Like I said earlier you are biased and Im glad you are admiting to this, Im glad I exposed you.
And to all the good folks here at E.S.R take the time to read through the exchanges we had on the topic see if a beat-down did take place or not although that is not the point of the post. Of course your Cult Supoorting Cohorts will say you won despite having no Primary source to back you up other than Debunked New Age BullSh#t, and Ashra Kwesi talking off the top of his head, You people Don't debate here, because in a debate the Loser will admit he lost, Yall on the other hand Copy N Paste New Age and when I show its false it falls on mute ears, I debunked everyone of your claims and all you can do is resort to a Satan/Seth similarity.
Like I asked Post a Primary text for your claims if "Everything is on the Wall" as you say, whats Taking you so long?? Prove us wrong and Win the Zeitgeist Challenge prize..
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Post by locdiva on Oct 2, 2010 19:54:51 GMT -5
Jari and others: As long as people who know coalesce to Euro myths it means trouble for the rest of us, no matter what hue. How about the truth, it is enlightening and powerful. It will inspire the youth who are largely hopeless. Talk about the settlers who were black or native. These truths have not been told or explained in their entirety. Most people don't know that Jim Beckworth, a black explorer and Native tribe member has a pathway in the Sierra mountains named after him. Let's start with that!!
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Post by scv on Oct 2, 2010 21:38:53 GMT -5
What credit?I am not afrocentrist, who is whining?The ones who started it was you. lol Actually I stated a clear opinion.."Whats the Big Deal" knowing I would get a bunch of Crocodile tears and Pity Party Band Wagon Bull about Columbus setting off the Killing and enslavement and Rape of Native Americans. So again WHATS THE BIG DEAL?? You people celebrate Africans and Arabs who did the same if not WORSE than Columbus and invading Europeans and Lets not even TALK ABOUT the Native Americans themselves who were at war and some clans even SIDED with the Euros to take down other powerful tribes. You people don't want or care about unbiased history, You want to paint Europeans as Evil and uphold Arabs and Africans and the occasional Asian on some pedalstool and I set the trap. Like I said stop whining already, Just Google Columbus and you will see no one Likes him any more and people don't credit him for discovering the Americas anymore, Be Satisfied already. Like I said you and your cohorts won't stop until every European is erased out of History, then you all can Image a glorious past that was never there, acting like you handed the Europeans civilization. Don't try to fair and balanced now SON, I already exposed you. exposed me? When?I only said Columbus didn' t discover anything, neither any other conquistador, I haven't said if they were bad or not, these are two different things, and remeber that genocide really started after columbus, and there were more people with columbus, so it not his fault, but still I see no reason to clebrate the discovery of america, as the ones who first set foot on it(and still live) where/are the native americans
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Post by locdiva on Oct 4, 2010 20:29:43 GMT -5
I live in Cleveland, OH. In the "Little Italy" section a statue of Columbus was moved from a church to a park across the street. You see the pride Italians feel for their 'hero'.
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Post by locdiva on Oct 26, 2010 18:26:16 GMT -5
Jari, I don't support humman mistreatment of any kind no matter who does it. However, celebrating Columbus is especially insiduous because non-white lives and customs are disregarded and ignored. Any Euro culture is esteemed and celebrated. Without putting race issues in the mix, this is point that really irks me. Most of the US does not understand this crucial fact!!
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