Egyptian schools across the continent

[Tukuler al~Takruri]

Where's the ARCHAEOLOGICAL remains of such?
No specualtion, guesswork, what ifs, or it's possibles.
Give me something replicable and falsifiable, please.

Jul 29, 2010 1:57:46 GMT -5 imhotep06 said:

The Egyptians had schools or initiating points across Africa and the Mediterranean.

[imhotep06]

They are not "schools" in the traditional sense as most schools were in the "bush" in most of traditional Africa. The forest was the school and is why the ancient Egyptians built their "temples" to look like forests. They were emulating the "schools" of inner Africa.

But before we move on, you need to understand this in its African context.

The African Super Highway of Wisdom (Asar Imhotep)
www.asarimhotep.com/documents/The_African_Superhighway_of_Wisdom.pdf

You should also read Felix Chami's The Unity of African Ancient History to analyze the archeological evidence of trade between Egypt, the Great Lakes region and South Africa. As Amadou Hampate Ba notes, Africans not only were trading "goods" but "religious or spiritual ideas." A modern example is among the early Washahili traders where Islam was introduced. The same in places like Mali. Although you don't see large "temples", they no doubt had to have a "school" to teach the tenants. Egypt was a distributor, as well as a recipient of religious ideas.

I will elaborate more on that in my upcoming publication "Bantu Cosmology and the Origins of Egyptian Civilization." For now you need context.

[Tukuler al~Takruri]

What do you think? That you an American are more African than continentals?

So OK you can't satisfy the scientific requirements for confirmation
of the proposal that Egyptians set up schools across Africa. Just
admit that and move on. We'll just have to accept your word on
it and that's good enough for internal cultural mythology but for
the unconverted you'll need to preach something a tad more tangible.

Jul 29, 2010 17:44:06 GMT -5 imhotep06 said:

you need to understand this in its African context.

[imhotep06]

No I don't think that which is why in the paper I quote ONLY Continental African scholars who are also initiates of various African traditions attesting to the African "Super Highway of Wisdom" to use Dr. Kajangu's phrasiology. I make this a point to diminish silly comments like the one above in case any continental "African" would attempt some ad hominem instead of dealing with the facts presented in the article. Also, as a living witness to the tradition I speak of this from first hand knowledge: yes an African born in America.

Secondly, obviously you don't know how a priest system works. If I go to Nigeria and am initiated into Ifa at a house in Ode Remo and I come to the United States and set up my own school, my school is still a part of the Ode Remo school because that's my lineage. Although I am autonomous in how I set up my school, there is still a babalawo who is head of all Babalawos in Ode Remo for which instructions are sent to all subordinate Babalawos; even those who belong to other traditions.

Each area of interest is also an area where trade was done. As Dr. Felix A. Chami notes throughout his book The Unity of Ancient African History, there was a trade network going on between The Nile Valley, The Great Lakes Region, South Africa, Cameroon/Nigeria, India and the Mediterranean. Dr. Ben in his book Rameses II and the Origin of Western Civilization list the following areas where "lodges" and "Egyptian" education were to be found:

Palestine [at Mt. Carmel]
Assyria [at Mt. Herman in Lebanon]
Babylon
Media [near the Red Sea]
India [at the banks of the Ganges River]
Burma
Athens
Rome
Croton
Rhodes
Delphi
Miletus
Cyprus
Corinth
Crete
Cush [Itiopi, Ethiopia]
Monomotapa [South Africa]
Zimbabwe

Every last location is attested to in ancient records as places of trade with Egypt in different time periods. For the Mediterranean evidence read GJK Campbell-Dunn's Who Were the Minoans: An African Answer and The African Origins of Classical Civilization. I've already mentioned Chami's work which deals heavily with the Great Lakes region, South African and Indian trade with Egypt since neolithic times. Robert Bauval's upcoming book Black Genesis deals with the trade with Chad and other points west.

In ancient times, Egypt controlled trade and was the center of trade. After the collapse of their stronghold, other nations rose up to take control of the trade. This is how Persia, Greece, Rome and the Arabs come into the mix. The same trade routes to India, at the time of Arab rule of the Mediterranean, was that being sought by Christopher Columbus and why he sought to go around Africa to deal with India directly instead of face the Arabs in their own turf.

Egypt and the rest of Africa was not isolated and didn't know about each other in ancient times. Globalization is as old as written records and it is during these times that the 'African Superhighway of Wisdom' was set up along the trade routes where, to this day, wisdom seekers still travel to learn the ancient traditions as attested in the article written above.

Your first point of evidence is to compare the names of God in each region. For instance, Itn (Egypt) - Iton-go (Zulu). Kaka (Kongo), Okaka (Igbo), Kaka (Egypt). Imn (Egypt), Imani (Rwanda). As Diop noted a statue of Osiris was found in Zaire. Not to mention as well that in Kongo they still worship Osiris: Wa-Shil, Ashil, Mu-jil, Mu-Jilu. I've pointed out dozens of times the opening of the mouth ceremony still done in the Kongo and east Africa.

Again, you have to understand context, meaning, what is the historical presidence for even the POSSIBILITY of spiritual schools, all connected, with the main lodge in Egypt, just like the school of Ifa that has Babalawos all over Africa, but the mouth piece is in Nigeria. So your first step is to falsify the data presented in the works I gave with the more detailed evidence (linguistic, archeological, etc.) for trade in these regions and then somehow explain away the oral traditions of living systems which still attest to this spiritual trade system set up in ancient times: the same priesthood and tradition that Amadou Hampate Ba used in interpreting the ancient rock art you like mention all of the time; the same priesthood that Mutwa belongs to which allowed him to interpret ancient South African rock art which stated Phoenicians were in South Africa which Dr. Felix Chami backed up Mutwa's story with archeological and written evidence quoted in his book.

All questions can't be answered in 20 words or less. Read the material.