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Post by jari on Apr 29, 2010 14:23:31 GMT -5
The same scene can be seen right across the globe and not to be funny or anything but while we ponder the faces of the Pharaohs and glorify their achievements we ignore their living descendants living in squalor. Well damn it its about time SOMEBODY said it. When it all boils down we are talking about people, not laboratory specimines. Being a Jamaican, I know what it is to grow up in a tourist country and see tourists flitting here and there while treating the locals like they're obstacles blocking their views of the attractions. All that money pouring into the country, but somehow, never enough to trickle down to the majority of the people living in desperation. I avoid going to the pyramids like the plague if I can. Loads of tourists trying to connect with the "power of the Pyramids", waxing on an on about how spiritual the place is, but somehow missing the fact that right at the base of the Pyramids is a retched ghetto, actually, its below ghetto, ITS A SLUM! People who can't afford the price of bread, who struggle by on one meal of beans a day. How come none of that spiritual power can roll down the hill to help those people? We sit here debating about how dark or light they are, which to my mind is a very Eurocentric wold view. These people do not relate to each other on those terms and you can't cherry pick. The dark guy who looks like a Somali has borthers and sisters who are light brown. The woman with the pink skin is married to the man with chocolate colored skin. The man with the ruddy complexion has a mother with brown skin and kinky locks down her back and the white guy with the hazel eyes has an afro. How do ypou put people like this in any box? How can you surgically cut them apart and decide what goes where? So what? Should we apply the one drop rule? Well lets all step back and ask ourselves who decided that one drop of "black" makes you all black and why they did it. And while we're on that tio, lets take a look at those videos again and ask ourselves 50 years ago in the South, would those children be going to the "white" school or the "negro" school? I agree compeletly, I mean it baffels me how black people or so called black people devote so much time and energy to debating Eurocentrics about the race of the Egyptians yet don't care for or about what made Egypt so great. This is why I can not identify with the Afrocentric movement 100 percent, becuase all I see is talk, and fighting. For example I see the clips made by "Sara Suten Seti" and his Afrocentric claims, which to me is nothing but ignorant ranting. He gets his followers to believe that Taking up arms and "Blowing the Brains out" of Muslim Native Egyptians who he calls "A-RABS" will some how create an African Utopia. I mean this man Seti as he is known would be nothing but entertainment if his message was not being reached via Youtube by so many young blacks. I mean on one clip he was going on how the Blood Diamond Crisis and other African Civil wars are not results of Corruption by African Dictators who are nothing but lackeys to the World Banks but were the "Revolutional" Africans Killing the "Uncle Tom Africans". He calls for the death of Whites by encouraging folks to Take Up Arms and thus start a war with "A-Rabs and Crackers". He has even gone to Call Gaddafi(Who by the way is a Berber and is the SAME SHADE of Skin as this Brother) an A-RAB insulting the man. Now Im not a Fan of Gaddafi but Im sorry Gaddafi is more African, and done more FOR AFRICA and has more relations with Africans than Him and many other African americans. Sadly people like Him do not understand what Egypt was about. Egyptians were warriors but also practical and smart. Does this man Seti think starting a war with "A-rabs and Crackers" will do anything. Is this what the afrocentic movement is about?? A bunch of Talk, Calls for "Blowing Peoples Brains out" and False unfounded attacks on peoples religion? The people of Egypt Are Africans and what is sad in this whole debate we fail to recognize the true atrocity, the fact that most Egyptians like all Africans around the world are living in or close to dire poverty. Logical actions need to be taken not ignorance espoused by Afrocentric leaders. Then again maybe I am being unrealistic to think that teaching our children about the greatness of Africa instead of the Hate whitey doctrine is good for African people.
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Post by egyptianplanet on May 5, 2010 11:49:03 GMT -5
Man I can't tell you how hard it is being an Egyptian nowadays. Living in constant fear of telling "Whites" and "Blacks". I tell the "White" I am Egyptian, and I am afraid he will think of me as some sub-human lifeform. I tell the "Black" and I am scared he will tell me I am not a native Egyptian and some "Arab invader" although I am Christian and Copts hold little to no genetic affinity to Arabs.
I am light brown, I've been mistaken for half black, black, Italian and Greek. People don't realize is that they looked at my skin color, they didn't look at how I acted or how I spoke. They were so keen on grouping me under a category without knowing me. Apparently it's important here.
I can't tell you how many times I've run into Afrocentrists and have become so fed up with what they said to me I just wanted to give up on being Egyptian. As if it's easy to be Syrian, at least they're not debated and talked about like cattle abject to forum posters and nit-picking like this individual did here with "White" skinned Egyptians.
I'm sick of it, it's not right. You rob a people of their identity like the European colonialists did to many Africans before them. Being told I'm not Egyptian because of my skin color, acting as if there was some mass extinction of the Ancient Egyptian populace and complete diaspora.
I've heard everything from Arabs displacing all of Egypt to the Ptolemies kicking out the native Egyptians and re-populating the Earth. STOP, just STOP. I'm sick of hearing it. I know I am likely mixed, but chances are my main genetics are African. Why do I have lips as big as Jay-Z? Why do I have an aquiline nose and not a larger nose like a stereotypical Arab? Do people realize Arabs were not light, they were dark?
I'm sorry to rant. All I know is my ancestors were Egyptians. I don't care how they looked. Whether Egyptian, Greek, Nubian or Roman. I worship Amun, I drank of the Nile and I follow the tenets of the Egyptians before me. That is what an Egyptian is.
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Post by anansi on May 5, 2010 23:44:35 GMT -5
Man I can't tell you how hard it is being an Egyptian nowadays. Living in constant fear of telling "Whites" and "Blacks". I tell the "White" I am Egyptian, and I am afraid he will think of me as some sub-human lifeform. I tell the "Black" and I am scared he will tell me I am not a native Egyptian and some "Arab invader" although I am Christian and Copts hold little to no genetic affinity to Arabs. I am light brown, I've been mistaken for half black, black, Italian and Greek. People don't realize is that they looked at my skin color, they didn't look at how I acted or how I spoke. They were so keen on grouping me under a category without knowing me. Apparently it's important here. I can't tell you how many times I've run into Afrocentrists and have become so fed up with what they said to me I just wanted to give up on being Egyptian. As if it's easy to be Syrian, at least they're not debated and talked about like cattle abject to forum posters and nit-picking like this individual did here with "White" skinned Egyptians. I'm sick of it, it's not right. You rob a people of their identity like the European colonialists did to many Africans before them. Being told I'm not Egyptian because of my skin color, acting as if there was some mass extinction of the Ancient Egyptian populace and complete diaspora. I've heard everything from Arabs displacing all of Egypt to the Ptolemies kicking out the native Egyptians and re-populating the Earth. STOP, just STOP. I'm sick of hearing it. I know I am likely mixed, but chances are my main genetics are African. Why do I have lips as big as Jay-Z? Why do I have an aquiline nose and not a larger nose like a stereotypical Arab? Do people realize Arabs were not light, they were dark? I'm sorry to rant. All I know is my ancestors were Egyptians. I don't care how they looked. Whether Egyptian, Greek, Nubian or Roman. I worship Amun, I drank of the Nile and I follow the tenets of the Egyptians before me. That is what an Egyptian is. Well people like to put folks into boxes and generalize sometimes ,but like I have stated before I am from Jamaica and we have folks who run the gamut from very lite to very dark with in the same family..and AAs should know better as they themselves are an extremely multi-hued group..whether that "multi huedness"(is that a word?) came from mixing with just about every known ethnic group from Africa or folks of non African ethnicity who are they/we to not call the kettle black? But also Egyptianplanet there are people from your country and that part of the world who are very color-conscious themselves..they make use of the internet AAs and others pick-up on that..give you an example most AAs way back regarded people of north Africa and the Arabian peninsula as brothers and potential allies see Malcolm X..but reports began to leak into the west of anti-other African sentiment especially those from south of the desert..slavery which is a big issue for the black west and should not be taken lightly..where Abd a term for slaves and black still exit in your language and then there was Mauritania who until late in the day had practiced legalized slavery..then came Darfur and many little incidents.. that tends to make AAs look with suspection of anyone coming from that area..I take the situation from your country as not being sooo different from the color-conscious-ness of the land of my birth and the land of my adoption I tend to see the same forces at work and it exist in populations of diversity..so yes you are us and we are you for even our insanity is the same.
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Post by jari on May 6, 2010 0:06:36 GMT -5
Man I can't tell you how hard it is being an Egyptian nowadays. Living in constant fear of telling "Whites" and "Blacks". I tell the "White" I am Egyptian, and I am afraid he will think of me as some sub-human lifeform. I tell the "Black" and I am scared he will tell me I am not a native Egyptian and some "Arab invader" although I am Christian and Copts hold little to no genetic affinity to Arabs. I am light brown, I've been mistaken for half black, black, Italian and Greek. People don't realize is that they looked at my skin color, they didn't look at how I acted or how I spoke. They were so keen on grouping me under a category without knowing me. Apparently it's important here. I can't tell you how many times I've run into Afrocentrists and have become so fed up with what they said to me I just wanted to give up on being Egyptian. As if it's easy to be Syrian, at least they're not debated and talked about like cattle abject to forum posters and nit-picking like this individual did here with "White" skinned Egyptians. I'm sick of it, it's not right. You rob a people of their identity like the European colonialists did to many Africans before them. Being told I'm not Egyptian because of my skin color, acting as if there was some mass extinction of the Ancient Egyptian populace and complete diaspora. I've heard everything from Arabs displacing all of Egypt to the Ptolemies kicking out the native Egyptians and re-populating the Earth. STOP, just STOP. I'm sick of hearing it. I know I am likely mixed, but chances are my main genetics are African. Why do I have lips as big as Jay-Z? Why do I have an aquiline nose and not a larger nose like a stereotypical Arab? Do people realize Arabs were not light, they were dark? I'm sorry to rant. All I know is my ancestors were Egyptians. I don't care how they looked. Whether Egyptian, Greek, Nubian or Roman. I worship Amun, I drank of the Nile and I follow the tenets of the Egyptians before me. That is what an Egyptian is. Exactly and I want to make it clear no one on this forum at least is saying Egyptians looked all sterotypically black. What most here hold is that Egypt was culturally and physically African. The Egyptians even the light skinned ones look African to me just as African as the Darker ones. Egypt has always reminded me of an Afro-Latino population like Cuba, Dominican Republic, Puerto Rico...also in some African nations like Mauritaunia and Ethiopia. You have Light and Dark skinned people that blend together. Just to show what I mean: Cubans Egyptians Mauritaunia ^^^^^^^^^ I mean look at the Egyptian Girls, they have Brown Wheat Brown Skin, Thick hair-They look like Africans to me, My sister is lighter than all of them with the same type of hair and she is "Black" in the U.S... When I say that Egyptians were "black" I mean they were Dark brown skinned native Africans as opposed to a Pink/White skinned population. I don't like the label black much anyway, I don't understand why its so hard to accept that Africans vary physically!! Anyway keep your head up, don't let anyone steal your heritage. You have the blood of the Pharoahs!!
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Post by beyoku on May 26, 2010 14:48:57 GMT -5
I like this photo Truthteacher, because I know one of them is you , but if you posted it on Mathilda's blog, I best they would incorrectly guess which one of these dudes is NOT Egyptian. HA HA - I was thinking this same thing
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