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Post by anansi on Apr 28, 2024 21:07:00 GMT -5
A great interview with Prof Manu Ampim, it's long but damned interesting.
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Post by zarahan on Apr 28, 2024 11:10:07 GMT -5
Are they a Native American mix?
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Post by zarahan on Apr 28, 2024 0:17:39 GMT -5
Those verses refer to what is symbolic or metaphorical. "Eyes like blazing fire" does not literally mean that there is a man with fire coming out of his eyeballs. Hair white like wool is also metaphorical- referring to a sense of purity, and also the dread aspect of Christ when in the Biblical prophecy, he will rule the earth in judgement: (Acts 17:31 "because he [God] has set a day in which he is going to judge the habitable earth in righteousness by the man whom he has appointed, giving the proof of it to all in having raised him from among the dead. .."
According to the well known Biblical teaching though, the present time is not one of judgment, but one of grace- meaning all men can have their sins forgiven and be reconciled to God- get a clean slate- before passing over the portal between life and death, by acceptance of Christ's atoning work, not just that he may have been a prophet in Palestine, but his person and work. Most cultures recognize an afterlife, and consequences following based on action and motives while in this life.
This is worth looking into because some think that an afterlife based on conduct in the present world is something white people came up with. But this is not so at all. It is a universal concern in many cultures. The Egyptians for example were very concerned about it. The Yoruba of West Africa also envisioned an afterlife: there would be a place of peace, happiness and purity, but for the unjust or evil, there would be another place of despair and anguish- the envisioned it as a wasteland of broken pots, symbolic of all human pride, ambition. corruption and self-indulgence- broken down and waste. In some Yoruba teaching it is known as Orun Padi is the land of potsherds, it is the spiritual realm where people who commit evil during their lifetime go to dig their pit of sorrow.
Orun Padi is analogous in part to the Judeo-Christian Sheol/Gehenna, the Greco-Roman Hades/Tartarus, and the various dark and despairing afterlife places of Hinduism, and Buddhism. The Yoruba also had a reincarnation belief but that would not kick in until soul paid the price in the sorrowful wasteland. How long would a soul have to suffer? A century? A millennia? No one knows for sure. And the reincarnation offers no guarantee that there would not eventually be a repeat of sins or evil, meaning another never-ending round on the sorrowful cycle, as additional sins and offences are committed in the "new" life.
The Egyptians opted more for a "balance sheet" approach. The soul would be weighted on the scales of Maat, with the right balance bringing escape from the zone of despair. The problem with the balance sheet is that the 3-fold moral weight will trip up all humans: that is, actions, thoughts, and motives. People can LOOK or act good OUTWARDLY, but what are their inward motives? Some celebs may give to charity, but their underlying motive is not really charitable, but to look good and get favorable publicity. This is a common condition of humans. Actions may look right but the underlying motives are something else. Then there are thoughts. Again, everything may look perfectly right and correct OUTWARDLY, but what are the thoughts inside the head? Many a respectable man would not put his hands on an attractive woman not his own, but in his thoughts, he might be fantasizing about raping her. Here again is another trip-up- thoughts, which are subject to moral scrutiny in the afterlife just like actions. Almost all moral systems consider not only outward actions that you can see, but what is INWARD a well, and this is a great dilemma for a human. The balance can never be in favor of the human soul due to wrong thoughts, actions and motives. If you can be tripped up by any of the three things: actions, thoughts or motives, what or who can make things right in the afterlife?
Christian faith hold for a one time forgiveness of sins through belief in Christ and his atoning work. No endless cycles of trying to get it right, because given human nature, there will always be greed, injustice, lying, murder, in all 3 dimensions: thought, motive and deed. Other faiths use different angles to approach the problem. ------------------------------- -----
The above being said though, the metaphorical verses need not be used literally to see Jesus as "black African." Given the frequent swarthy and brown complexions of people in the Palestine region, it is not hard to see Jesus being sent to the back of the bus during the Jim Crow era to be with the brothers. Some Brown-skinned Italian immigrants were lynched in the Jim Crow era- and part of the reason for their demise was that they were seen as being too familiar with the blacks- were not too proud to do business with them, or treat them with respect. Second, Jesus was hated by the "establishment" of his day because he was not too proud to hang out with, or minister to the despised and downtrodden. In apartheid South Africa and many parts of the US, even outside the Jim Crow region, this would "taint" him- make him "black"- persona non grata.
Third, Jesus can be seen as metaphorically "black" because he was not afraid to speak truth to power- to speak up against injustice and corruption and hypocrisy. See John 8- the big shots gathered to stone a woman taken in adultery, but Jesus said: "Let he among you who is without sin cast the first stone." They all departed in shame because their hypocrisy was exposed. Why didn't they also charge the MAN with adultery, rather than singling out the woman? See also Mathew 21: 12-13 where he cast the money-changers and merchants out of the holy temple. "My house shall be called a house of prayer, but yet have made it a den of thieves." The establishment of the day didn't like that because they were in on it and reaped profits from commercialization of the temple and the faith. In the African American prophetic tradition, there have been persons not afraid to speak truth to power. Many of these ended up ostracized, run out of town or received a bullet for their trouble- ML king is the classic example.
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Post by zarahan on Apr 27, 2024 22:41:43 GMT -5
Its a fair compilation of many of the great topics over the years, and needed to refute the deniers of a balanced picture of African civilization and bicultural diversity. The info is now worldwide on multiple blogs and videos. It can no longer be buried.
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Post by anansi on Apr 16, 2024 16:48:27 GMT -5
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Post by A Boy Named KING on Apr 16, 2024 13:34:26 GMT -5
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Post by A Boy Named KING on Apr 2, 2024 14:46:39 GMT -5
Blacka Black Blacka Yellow Blacka Red Blacka Brown Blacka White Its one love that fits us like a glove, Blacka people build across the Nations
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Post by zarahan on Mar 7, 2024 23:26:16 GMT -5
Kanye West might he hitting some of these substances of late..
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Post by zarahan on Mar 3, 2024 23:37:46 GMT -5
During the civil rights struggle over desegregation in the 1950s and 1960s various religious arguments took a backseat to those based on evolution. The charge was focused on "science" and defenders of Jim Crow spent little time on Biblical "Curse of Ham" spiels but drew heavily on naturalistic "evolutionary" notions in a variety of ways- such as arguing that (a) The large IQ gaps derived from innate differences making skool segregation reasonable and natural, and (b) evolution proved that "birds of a feather flocked together." Thus the negroes locked down in ghetto slums or areas chock full of noisy industrial plants, sewerless floodplains, toxic dumps etc actually PREFERRED these places, "to be with dey own people." Its all a "natural" pattern- each race preferring to be "with their own kind." This is the basic argument still used today by racist author Jared Taylor and his acolytes, and some libertarian types who just can't get over the fact of a black man eating his hamburger in peace or owning a house next to some white people. Court cases making similar arguments were duly filed to overturn Brown vs Board. Some believers in evolution however, such as segregationist leader Carleton Putnam were upset that the evolutionary or naturalistic arguments filed in court did not mention the dreaded topic of miscegenation, which was scientifically unsound due to differences between negro and white brains.. Also weighing in ion the segregationist scales were arguments by scientist Carleton Coons in his book "Origin of the Races" which held that whites evolved some 200,000 years before the negro, giving them a massive head start on "civilization." Depending on the venue, various angles were emphasized or deemphasized but such "evolutionary" or associated naturalistic arguments were primary. Assorted "curse of Ham" arguments seldom (if at all) appear in court filings in defense of segregation. Here again, belief in evolution or some closely related phenomena is a primary driver in modern racial systems like Jim Crow, or in apologist defences. nyupress.org/9780814742716/science-for-segregation/ Science for Segregation Race, Law, and the Case against Brown v. Board of Education by John P. Jackson, Jr. 2005
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Post by zarahan on Mar 3, 2024 23:36:25 GMT -5
Pro-evolutionists have been among the primary propagators of racism, as Nazi scientific racism shows. The Role of Darwinism in Nazi Racial Thought Richard Weikart, German Studies Review Vol. 36, No. 3 (October 2013), pp. 537-556 (20 pages) By examining Hitler's ideology, the official biology curriculum, the writings of Nazi anthropologists, and Nazi periodicals, we find that Nazi racial theorists did indeed embrace human and racial evolution. They not only taught that humans had evolved from primates, but they believed the Aryan or Nordic race had evolved to a higher level than other races because of the harsh climatic conditions that influenced natural selection. They also claimed that Darwinism underpinned specific elements of Nazi racial ideology, including racial inequality, the necessity of the racial struggle for existence, and collectivism.
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Post by zarahan on Mar 3, 2024 23:19:45 GMT -5
Just looking at a link and it gets bizarre. SOme scientists of the atheist Bolshevik regime actually tried creating ape-human hybrids in Africa to test evolution. This included attempts to artificially inseminate African women with ape semen without their knowledge. Per the book "Red Dynamite": muse.jhu.edu/pub/255/oa_monograph/chapter/3006912--------------------------------------------------------------------- QUOTE: "Despite the wild exaggerations of later anticommunist conspiracy theorists, Bolshevik support for evolution and opposition to the organized power of religion were very real. That support also inspired one truly bizarre venture that later produced fodder for creationists. The Bolshevik commitment to evolutionary science became international news in 1926 because of a controversial research project in Kindia, Guinea (then part of French West Africa), at a facility of the Louis Pasteur Institute of Paris. The lead researcher was Ilya Ivanovich Ivanov (1870-1932), an evolutionary zoologist who had pioneered the practice of large-scale artificial insemination with purebred horses. His project was to artificially hybridize humans and apes.59 As strange as the scheme sounds today, the idea had been taken seriously by leading European scientists in France, Germany, the Netherlands, and Russia. Recent discoveries of hominid fossils, as well as living gorillas, fired a popular and scholarly interest in humanity’s origins.60 While Ivanov and the Bolsheviks did not motivate the project using racist terms, the colonization of West Africa and prevailing racist conceptions of a lower “African” race made the scheme sound reasonable to Europeans. Moreover, the preceding decades had seen a European vogue in the science of rejuvenation. The supposed virilizing powers of ape sexual glands fueled an interest in collecting specimens of live orangutans, gibbons, and chimpanzees.61 Successfully appealing to the Bolshevik government for initial funding, Ivanov stressed the project’s ability to aid the ideological campaign against organized religion and for Darwinism. In later discussions with the Academy of Sciences—which refused to support Ivanov’s work—he stressed the scientific value of his research for human evolutionary studies.62 Once in Guinea, Ivanov did carry out at least part of the experiment—artificially inseminating several captive chimpanzees with the sperm of a local Guinean man. When the animals failed to become pregnant, the researchers sought to try their luck inseminating local African women with chimpanzee sperm (hoping to do so without the knowledge of the women, who were patients at a French colonial hospital). But the French authorities denied permission. When Ivanov complained about this to his Soviet sponsors, they ordered him not to attempt to impregnate women without their consent. One important legacy of the entire venture, however, was a primatological nursery in Sukhumi, in the Soviet Republic of Abkhazia (later Georgia), where Ivanov continued his work in the late 1920s, soliciting Soviet women volunteers for artificial insemination. Hybridization failed, but the population of chimpanzees gathered at Sukhumi would later produce the animals that rode Sputnik flights into outer space. Those voyages spurred Americans to strengthen scientific education, unintentionally inciting a backlash of creationist activism in the 1960s.63 Many Americans became aware of Ivanov’s work because of prominent coverage in the US press. In June 1926, a Time magazine titled “Men and Apes” reported that “Ivanoff,” supported by Moscow, was headed to Africa to “‘support’ Evolution by breeding apes with humans.” Readers also learned that the American Association for the Advancement of Atheism (AAAA), led by Charles Lee Smith, was publicizing the project and actively raising funds for it, though Ivanov’s staff in Moscow disclaimed any connection with the group. That may well have been because leaders of the AAAA had absorbed the “scientific” racist ideas of British anthropologist F. G. Cruikshank. His artificial breeding scheme recommended the following pairings: orangutans with the “yellow race,” gorillas with the “black race,” and chimpanzees with the “white race.”64 But the basic story, as expressed in two June 1926 New York Times headlines, was true: “Russian Admits Ape Experiments” and “Soviet Backs Plan to Test Evolution.”65 Red Dynamite- Creationism, Culture Wars, and Anticommunism in America -Carl R. Weinberg 2021, pp 22-53
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Post by anansi on Feb 24, 2024 22:02:48 GMT -5
Glad you did, Im mostly over at Quora nowadays.
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Post by anansi on Feb 24, 2024 21:59:20 GMT -5
Yeah he certainly did, and well presented I might add.
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Post by zarahan on Feb 22, 2024 16:34:45 GMT -5
Its a lot of good info packed in there.
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Post by anansi on Feb 18, 2024 23:56:40 GMT -5
This has got to be the most comprehensive vid I've seen dealing with various stages of the African from the Paleolithic to the Neolithic, this is hard to beat and well put together, Pls share.
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