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Post by Ron Richardson on Sept 8, 2016 13:09:53 GMT -5
You probably seen a few members on here ask for help...we are in a group on Facebook.. We could maybe tag you guys in the debate with us on Facebook if you all have a account, it doesn't have to be a personal account... (FYI truthseekers all you have to do it hit join and you are in) if you click the link now an announcement might pop up, because you are not logged into a Facebook. Truthseekers m.facebook.com/groups/200335186654626?ref=m_notif¬if_t=group_comment_mWe have Eurocentrics in our group, The evidence we give them they twist it up, some members don't know how to reply with the right evidence. We also know you guys are experts at debating, our members need you to join us on the comment thread (My group has been begging me to ask you guys for the longest) Can any of the members on here debate directly on other forums other than ES. Yes or, no we'd really appreciate it |
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Post by Tukuler al~Takruri on Sept 8, 2016 19:40:25 GMT -5
(My group has been begging me to ask you guys for the longest) Can any of the members on here debate directly on other forums other than ES. Yes or, no we'd really appreciate it Don't be swayed to run elsewhere and be under another's turf and say so to build up their house while they pick your brains. Let 'em come here and dare to debate us, that's if they have the guts enough to do it. Let the ESR brand expand. Don't let your new never posted analyzes become the intellecual property of another site. Do it here first then export it |
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Post by djoser-xyyman on Sept 8, 2016 21:13:21 GMT -5
well said Sage. ===== quote: Hello XYYMAN. I enjoy your knowledge and information on Ancient Egypt and genetics. I would like to invite you to a secret group on Facebook called Truth Seeker. There we are debating modern Egyptians, North Africans and white folks about black people in Europe, North Africa, and Ancient Egypt. Most of those people believe black folks only came to those regions only through the slavery. If you interested all you need is a Facebook account and I can be add to the debates. We would love to have your knowledge and expertise. m.facebook.com/groups/200335186654626?ref=bookmarks Read more: egyptsearchreloaded.proboards.com/conversation/1033#ixzz4JijGfxOm===== a "secret group"? really! Who is running this? a twelve year old? "I only debate my equals all others I teach" (John Henry Clarke) |
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Post by anansi on Sept 8, 2016 22:08:05 GMT -5
You probably seen a few members on here ask for help...we are in a group on Facebook.. We could maybe tag you guys in the debate with us on Facebook if you all have a account, it doesn't have to be a personal account... (FYI truthseekers all you have to do it hit join and you are in) if you click the link now an announcement might pop up, because you are not logged into a Facebook. Truthseekers m.facebook.com/groups/200335186654626?ref=m_notif¬if_t=group_comment_mWe have Eurocentrics in our group, The evidence we give them they twist it up, some members don't know how to reply with the right evidence. We also know you guys are experts at debating, our members need you to join us on the comment thread (My group has been begging me to ask you guys for the longest) Can any of the members on here debate directly on other forums other than ES. Yes or, no we'd really appreciate it Quite frankly most of us are tired of debating the issue of the "RACIAL" angle of the ancient kemitians and some North west Africans as If that was all their civilization, history and culture had to offer, first off most of those guys are still into oid and Id terms, already a non starter for most Vets here, we collect and disseminate information, once in a while someone will drop by and rehash the same tired ol arguments and is quickly but politely put in check and thus wander off tail tucked between legs, I'd say about 10 yrs ago most of us might have been interested. |
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Post by Ron Richardson on Sept 9, 2016 1:04:57 GMT -5
(My group has been begging me to ask you guys for the longest) Can any of the members on here debate directly on other forums other than ES. Yes or, no we'd really appreciate it Don't be swayed to run elsewhere and be under another's turf and say so to build up their house while they pick your brains. Let 'em come here and dare to debate us, that's if they have the guts enough to do it. Let the ESR brand expand. Don't let your new never posted analyzes become the intellecual property of another site. Do it here first then export it That's the thing those fools are not going to come here to Es, 💯 They will come up with an excuse as to why we are sending them on another Afrocentric😒 site other than Facebook... the garbage he is posting 😒 not too many people are knowledgable on this subject,only know a lilttle bit... Some of the members in my group don't understand how to reply with the right evidence. While he on the other hand knows what he is doing, that's why he keeps manipulating facts to make us seem" stupid, Oss understands that "some"members don't fully understand his tricks. One thing I noticed is these group of loony tunes never compare or talk about lower admixed invaders to the ancients, if anything there is no connection... From the art,statues , culturally, and linguistically, . They erroneously claim they have been the same group of people since ancient times😒 tinypic.com/view.php?pic=riw0ih&s=9#.V8kCX_Q8KnMtinypic.com/view.php?pic=e87kog&s=9#.V8kDZPQ8KnMtinypic.com/view.php?pic=nbexpc&s=9#.V8kDrPQ8KnMlltinypic.com/view.php?pic=33b1zzn&s=9#.V86JLvQ8KnMtinypic.com/view.php?pic=xppu2s&s=9#.V86JcfQ8KnM |
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Post by history91 on Sept 9, 2016 3:13:03 GMT -5
Truth Seeker is a place where people talk about many different topics. But right now we Oss El Banna, an Egyptian, who is very knowledgeable and his crew like David Bowden having people believing the wrong thing about North Africa.
XYYMAN and al~Takruri I believe you have the opportunity to debate someone who maybe your equal in Oss El Banna and teach others while you are at it. Oss took a lot Zarahan memes and broke them down with other information saying they were false and a misrepresentation of facts.
It is also a great way to get ESR brand out there because it's over 13k people in the group.
It's no one's home turf just different from all over the world discussing different issues. The group is ran by a black gentleman named CJ Akers Jr. I hope you gentlemen reconsider joining.
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Post by Tukuler al~Takruri on Sept 9, 2016 3:43:54 GMT -5
I don't do non-refereed debate. I don't fight battles others got themselves into. Don't jump in the water if YOU can't swim! I don't want to convince ethnocentrics, neither Euro nor Afro nor Med nor Arabo. I study and share Egyptology & Africana with their various related disciplines. Your people are so sincere? Let 'em bring their behinds here. I for one will not lend credibility to their site or pump it up in any way shape fashion or form. I couldn't care what they think or what their ethnic background is. My people need me and I will continue assuring they get accuracy not a feel good fantasy that's little more than the same Euro distortions but in blackface. HOWEVER, and all ESRers on Facebook take note, we need an authentic spinoff on FB. Truth Seeker is a place where people talk about many different topics. But right now we Oss El Banna, an Egyptian, who is very knowledgeable and his crew like David Bowden having people believing the wrong thing about North Africa. XYYMAN and al~Takruri I believe you have the opportunity to debate someone who maybe your equal in Oss El Banna and teach others while you are at it. Oss took a lot Zarahan memes and broke them down with other information saying they were false and a misrepresentation of facts. It is also a great way to get ESR brand out there because it's over 13k people in the group. It's no one's home turf just different from all over the world discussing different issues. The group is ran by a black gentleman named CJ Akers Jr. I hope you gentlemen reconsider joining. |
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Post by anansi on Sept 9, 2016 5:46:02 GMT -5
Guys first ask yourself this question..am I truly interested in Africana studies, or do I just want to play one-up man-ship with some random ethnocentric on the internet including facebook group, if tomorrow new unequivocal evidence showed the Kmtians were non Africans and or not even black will that shatter your world view, and could you move on, yes we understand your frustration, but I kid you not, information was not readily available, on much of the subject the time before the internet, we had to subscribed to scientific journals physically go to a library checkout books etc, today you guys have all the necessary info at the klik of your finger tips, I suggest you learn it, and not just for the stuff about the probable race of the ancient kemetians but learn who they were inside out as much as possible for in that lay many hidden gems about who they are and where they came from, look at neighboring civilization for connection, look at civilizations outside Africa and compare how they ran their civilization, yes before you engage idiots know your stuff shortcuts or calling big brother doesn't really help you.
One more thing Zarahan's work is loaded with references all his detractors have to is cut and paste it on to their search engine to see if he is lying or mistaken.
'Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.'.
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Post by djoser-xyyman on Sept 9, 2016 7:39:01 GMT -5
"Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.'"
Lol! Well said Brada.
@ Sage. I agree we may need to expand but keep ESR our primary database. I joined FTDNA forum awhile back and was kicked out eventually. I got PM from members who secretly "got my back" but there were apparently others who bitched and complained. Then I was axed. No big deal. That forum is primarily dead now anyhow because I opened a few eyes. They cannot lie and delude themselves now and any intelligent people would realize what I am saying is true. . The data is out there. ESR and ES is my primary. And as Anansi said - we have moved pass the infantile ids and oids. debate. There is no race and AEians are indigenous Africans. Sides that was before my time and I have no clue what those ids and oids mean. Lol! Show me data and numbers then we can sit and talk.
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Post by djoser-xyyman on Sept 9, 2016 7:42:51 GMT -5
Lol! A "secret group" that will not openly debate on a popular topic. SMH! Cloak and dagger shyte is for teenagers! SMH
I like it so much I will say it twice:
"Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.'"
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Post by djoser-xyyman on Sept 9, 2016 8:08:42 GMT -5
To those who don't understand what I mean by "there is no race". And I am not talking "kumbaya" "can we all get along'. Lol! Both Lazaridis paper has confirmed what I have been saying over the last several years based on reading works by Sergi and others. . Incredibly as it may seem modern Europeans are a subset of Africans.
In his first paper on Modern Europeans are from "3 ancient populations'' he identified "Basal Eurasian" but stopped short on clearly stating where they came from. Although he did state that he cannot disentangle YRI and Basal Eurasian. But instead of digging deeper in Africa for the connection he went to the Bedouins of the Middle East as a proxy, why?, because Bedouins are primarily Africans(North) and the last remnant of Africans among Turks that remain in the Middle East and Levant. By doing that he up kept up the status quo that modern Europeans are from the Neolithics from the Levant. But DNATribes came on the scene and shattered that mis-conception ......or lie. Nevertheless in his(Lazaridis) new paper he had no other choice but to admit it albeit reluctantly that Basal Eurasian(Natufians) are Africans but NOT necessarily YRI. But that has been made clear a long time ago (since 2002) when Rosenberg et al showed that Europeans are may be as much as 80% Africans using "unsupervised" Admixture algorithm. Most other studies use "supervise' algorithm to create the illusion of separation.
So you see why there is no longer a "debate". I don't have the time.
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Post by Tukuler al~Takruri on Sept 9, 2016 15:30:53 GMT -5
Lazaridus is hypothetical but plenty
of reports based on actual existing
fossil archaeology and DNA draw
the same set of conclusions and
more than that they show there's
no continuity in Euro populations
throughout the Holocene.
In other words Europe's recent
peopling is not that of any
previous epoch.
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Post by zarahan on Sept 9, 2016 22:29:52 GMT -5
Truth Seeker is a place where people talk about many different topics. But right now we Oss El Banna, an Egyptian, who is very knowledgeable and his crew like David Bowden having people believing the wrong thing about North Africa. XYYMAN and al~Takruri I believe you have the opportunity to debate someone who maybe your equal in Oss El Banna and teach others while you are at it. Oss took a lot Zarahan memes and broke them down with other information saying they were false and a misrepresentation of facts. It is also a great way to get ESR brand out there because it's over 13k people in the group. It's no one's home turf just different from all over the world discussing different issues. The group is ran by a black gentleman named CJ Akers Jr. I hope you gentlemen reconsider joining. lol Oss El bana on Facebook didn't "break down" sheeyit. Matter of fact it is his bogus claims that have been broken down and exposed as false. And if he wants to "debate" why doesn't "El Bana" show up on Egyptsearch Reloaded and join? He knows where we are, as does some of the Afro-Kemet knowledge sphere. We are no secret. But in any event, since you "volume" posted some of that nonsense on Reloaded, it has been comprehensively debunked here: egyptsearchreloaded.proboards.com/thread/2321/modern-egyptians-related-same-ancients?page=2&scrollTo=14998including one of the most asinine claims of all time- that should be remembered as pretty much summing up the "Truth" group -QUOTE: "sub-Saharan people are a recent addition to Africa" --El Banna and Bowden 2016  If this is be level of "higher knowledge" being served, y'all are doomed, but carry on.. lol ============================================================================================== yesterday at 2:09pm Ron Richardson said:
(My group has been begging me to ask you guys for the longest)
Can any of the members on here debate directly on other forums other than ES.
Yes or, no we'd really appreciate it You or similar may be the same guy who PMed me on ES, but then you give a dead link. And what's this so-called secret group? exactly what Facebook Group are you with? But you know where Reloaded is. We are no "secret." The data is out in the open for all to crosscheck themselves. We have given full citations to scholars. There is nothing to hide. Use the data provided- for it will do Eurocentrics in. There are several other people also using it around the web, and they are causing substantial pain to the enemies of a balanced African bio-history. Study these examples and study the basic database page. www.egyptsearch.com/forums/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=8;t=008794We have already done much of the heavy lifting and the debunk thread is winding down. It may not be open long. Now it is your turn to study and apply. If you want more people join ES and copy and paste the bogus arguments over there in a separate ES thread. They may keep things going. And if this other "secret" group is itself banning people who dare to question their bogus info, why bother with said "secret" group? Provide more details on banning. Similar methods may need to be applied to representatives of said group who come here. Even- Steven. But as said above save effort and build up your own with good info. At the same time you should think of making some contributions as well to Reloaded. What good info can you post that you are now seeing in your other Africana groups? Its a two-way street. Another thing you can do is post direct links to ES-Reloaded pages in your FB Kemet group. Like I say, its a 2-way street, if you want folks to keep helping. |
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Post by zarahan on Sept 10, 2016 0:15:51 GMT -5
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Post by anansi on Sept 11, 2016 18:18:52 GMT -5
 This is what we are expected to walk into???..excuse us but we are adults here so hell to the no! we won't go. |
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