Black 4000BC North Africans

[djoser-xyyman]

Neolithization of North Africa involved the migration of people from both the Levant and Europe - Rosa Frege Sep2017


Abstract: One of the greatest transitions in the human story was the change from hunter-gatherer to farmer. How farming traditions expanded from their birthplace in the Fertile Crescent has always been a matter of contention. Two models were proposed, one involving the movement of people and the other based on the transmission of ideas. Over the last decade, paleogenomics has been instrumental in settling long-disputed archaeological questions, including those surrounding the Neolithic revolution. Compared to the extensive genetic work done on Europe and the Near East, the Neolithic transition in North Africa, including the Maghreb, remains largely uncharacterized. Archaeological evidence suggests this process may have happened through an in situ development from Epipaleolithic communities, or by demic diffusion from the Eastern Mediterranean shores or Iberia. In fact, Neolithic pottery in North Africa strongly resembles that of European cultures like Cardial and Andalusian Early Neolithic, the southern-most early farmer culture from Iberia. Here, we present the first analysis of individuals' genome sequences from early and late Neolithic sites in Morocco, as well as Andalusian Early Neolithic individuals. We show that Early Neolithic Moroccans are distinct from any other reported ancient individuals and possess an endemic element retained in present-day Maghrebi populations, indicating long-term genetic continuity in the region. Among ancient populations, early Neolithic Moroccans share affinities with Levantine Natufian hunter-gatherers (~9,000 BCE) and Pre-Pottery Neolithic farmers (~6,500 BCE). Late Neolithic (~3,000 BCE) Moroccan remains, in comparison, share an Iberian component of a prominent European-wide demic expansion, supporting theories of trans-Gibraltar gene flow. Finally, the Andalusian Early Neolithic samples share the same genetic composition as the Cardial Mediterranean Neolithic culture that reached Iberia ~5,500 BCE. The cultural and genetic similarities of the Iberian Neolithic cultures with that of North African Neolithic sites further reinforce the model of an Iberian intrusion into the Maghreb.

[djoser-xyyman]

Excerpts I posted at Davidski and he deleted.


HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! You people are incredible reading all the BS spin above. What is “proper” SSA lineage?, What is “Para”-Eurasian? , what is (non) non-African? Good God!
You people are trained in BS. But guess what I am here to expose the BS. Eurasian AIM existed in Africa long before there were “Eurasians”. HE! HE! HE!

Gallego Llorente, M. et al. Ancient Ethiopian genome reveals extensive Eurasian admixture throughout the African continent. Science 350, 820-822,

You Europeans baffle me with you irrationality and lack of logic. How can a paper like this get publish? Were these black people migrating in FROM Europe or the Levant? HA! Ha! HA! WTF….?

Quote from Frege et al 2017:
“IAM(eraly Neolithic North Africans) people do ***NOT*** possess any of the European SNPs associated with light pigmentation, and most likely had dark(black) skin and eyes. IAM samples present ancestral alleles for pigmentation-associated variants present in SLC24A5 (rs1426654), SLC45A2 (rs16891982) and OCA2 (rs16891982 and 12913832) genes. On the other hand, KEB individuals exhibit some European- derived alleles that predispose individuals to lighter skin and eye colour, including those on genes SLC24A5 (rs1426654) and OCA2 (rs16891982) (Supplementary Note 11).”


Again for the delusional Europeans who still haven’t connected the dots.

La Brana=6000years old European hunter gatherer =black skin
Loschbour=5000yo European also black skin
Villabruna= 17,000year old European also black skin with tropical body proportions
IAM= ancient early Neolithic North Africans = black skin
Bronze Age Levantines = Black skin

GET THE PICTURE???!!! Blacks were the dominant color among Europeans and Africans up to about 3000bc. And if what Salden say is true. Outside the cities of modern North Africa. Black is still the dominant color. Stop cherry picking.

my Point? So who were these Europeans migrating FROM Europe to North Africa again??? These authors should be taken behind the wood-shed and their "scientific" degrees confiscated. Award them a political science degree. lol!

Oh! I am not as knowledgeable in anthropology as much a genetics but from what I have read by Coon and Sergi. Early European Neolithics were long headed and also carried tropical limbs. Just as Villabruna. My scientific knowledge and understand makes me conluded they are NOT cold weather people. And since we now know they are black…well. I rest my case. Come on…nutty ones. Let me hear your spin. Rick you kick it off…followed by BBG. Everyone will get a turn. Lol! . Salden would you please shut the F up! I prefer to hear from people who do NOT copy and paste from blogs but have their own opinion with cited sources. You are too irritating.

Long head+tropical body limbs+black skin=?? Anyone? Am I the cheese…

These Euronuts scientist are out of control. Wow! Their deception cannot stop!

Quote:
“Figure 1. Geographical location (A) and calibrated radiocarbon date (B) of the samples 311 included in this study, as well as other ancient DNA samples from the literature. *BOT sample was not
radiocarbon dated, but was assigned to the Early Andalusian period on the basis of the associated material culture.”

I realize over the last couple of years they were getting desperate…but this is above and beyond “wickedness” rasta…(King). Here they chose to precisely date the Africans genes using radiocarbon dating but NOT the European BOT. HA! Ha! I guess the date will not support their lies.

[djoser-xyyman]

Neolithization of North Africa involved the migration of people from ****both**** the Levant and Europe.

Africa was a very attractive in pre-historical times. Everyone was migrating TO Africa. Lol! Remember the Chinese chicken without Chinese people migrated back to Africa also?


To those who don't get it...they claimed these people were non non-Africans. It is not a typo. NON non African. WTF.....You are either an African or you are not. a non non-African = an African. Didn't Lazaridis use the same label "non Non- African" talkng about Natufians.


They are really getting creative with their labels.

latest is "para-Eurasian" and "Sub-Saharan proper". WT.....lol!


Also - lack of mtDNA H is highly unusual. Kefi had it in huge amounts in paleolithic Morocco!!! Are they now 'selectively" publishing results. ie outright lying??!!


Just finished the SUPP. So, they mentioned Kefi's paper but dismissed it as flaky. They don't believe Kefi's result.


As I posted on Davidski and he rudely censored by deletion. All of North Africa and Europe was occupied by black tropical adapted people prior to 4000BC.

TOR carried the derived for white skin. TOR=late Neolithic North Africa. Even I was surprised by IAM being black. That is very late. Which means Europeans turned white very very very very late! Which would mean even up to early historical times black skin would have been common place in Europe. Remember one of these papers stated that English Queen tried to rid of blacks in London. Genetic analysis showed these blacks were NOT related to modern SSA carrying E1b1a.

[djoser-xyyman]

Just finished the SUPP. So, they mentioned Kefi's paper but dismissed it as flaky. They don't believe Kefi's result.


As I posted on Davidski and he rudely censored by deletion. All of North Africa and Europe was occupied by black tropical adapted people prior to 4000BC.

TOR carried the derived for white skin. TOR=late Neolithic North Africa. Even I was surprised by IAM being black. That is very late. Which means Europeans turned white very very very very late! Which would mean even up to early historical times black skin would have been common place in Europe. Remember one of these papers stated that English Queen tried to rid of blacks in London. Genetic analysis showed these blacks were NOT related to modern SSA carrying E1b1a.

[djoser-xyyman]

You Europeans have the innate talent to lie and mis-direct the unsuspecting. But I am onto your lies and games. Were North Africans black about 5000years ago? Were there two migratory event? Were there a first wave which extended to Western Europe made up of Asian-like pople? That is your question?

Typical of Euronuts. Mis-directing and lying. There is a reason why people think YOU people are cheats and liars.

Reason1234 said
“Imagining a world populated by Melanesians and Nigerians”
“if a group of people had darker skin in the past, that means they were actually some other completely different and unrelated group of people. So for example, his idiotic argument is that Europeans had darker skin in the past therefore they were Melanesians.”

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McEvoy et al. Quote:
“, ***consistently*** demonstrate a significantly more recent relationship between Europe and Africa than between East Asia and Africa. Using simulated populations, we show that under
the single-wave ‘‘Out of Africa’’ model, Thus, the observations are suggestive that GREATER MIGRATION TO EUROPE FROM SUB-SAHARAN AFRICAN HAS BEEN A LONG-TERM PHENOMENON.”

“Firstly, they suggest a substantial gap between African/Eurasian and West/East Eurasian divergence (;***20 KYA from TF estimates***), indicating
an appreciable pause between leaving Africa and departure for East Eurasia. Secondly, they support further early gene flow to the
remaining proto-West Eurasian population from Africa after Eurasian divergence, perhaps as a second smaller dispersal (Mellars 2006a).”

Quote from Frege et al 2017:
“IAM(early Neolithic North Africans) people do ***NOT*** possess any of the European SNPs associated with light pigmentation, and most likely had dark(black) skin and eyes. IAM samples present ancestral alleles for pigmentation-associated variants present in SLC24A5 (rs1426654), SLC45A2 (rs16891982) and OCA2 (rs16891982 and 12913832) genes. On the other hand, KEB individuals exhibit ***some*** European- derived alleles that predispose individuals to lighter skin and eye colour, including those on genes SLC24A5 (rs1426654) and OCA2 (rs16891982) (Supplementary Note 11).”

Read more: egyptsearchreloaded.proboards.com/thread/2542/black-4000bc-north-africans#ixzz50yvZcnAe

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So what do we have? Yes, North Africans during the early Neolithic was black. Two migratory events?