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Post by anansi on Sept 21, 2022 7:21:17 GMT -5
I saw a bootleg version of it as its not out in Japan, my take ? it was pretty damned good, some try to dull its shine by complaining about accuracy , when it never claimed be, It said Based On True Events, not that it was supposed to be a documentary or bio pic, they didn’t pull any punches about the role they played in the human trafficking and shortsightedness, while the Women were strong , it didn’t make the males characters weak, it was well balanced and nuanced imo, now some brothers are bothered about the dominant female characters , and see this an attack on Black male dignity , they look at flicks like Black Panther and I guess a few others? ..so they joined with WhiteSupremacist trying to drive down viewership, this is not helpful , if they want more strong Black male characters then support movies when they do show up, Black women will throw their support behind things they see as representative of them, a lot of us seem to just complain about their clout and success. As for the White Supremacist well when have they not try and stop Black folks from shining. What say you good people.
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Post by zarahan on Sept 24, 2022 21:02:16 GMT -5
Haven't seen it but I heard it has fleshed out characters and strong performances. Only criticism I have seen so far is like you say- historical accuracy- but again it is a fictional film that doesn't pretend to be fully factual. Other thing I have heard along these lines is that Dahomey was once one of the biggest slave trading states in Africa and that the "Amazons" in serving the ruling slavocrat regime could not have been exactly freedom fighters. Is there anything in the movie where the warrior queen tries to check internal slaving operations?
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Post by zarahan on Sept 24, 2022 22:37:45 GMT -5
and see this an attack on Black male dignity , they look at flicks like Black Panther and I guess a few others? ..so they joined with WhiteSupremacist trying to drive down viewership, this is not helpful , if they want more strong Black male characters then support movies when they do show up,
The ironic thing is that Black Panther did have several strong female characters. Sure the star is Tchalla as is right since it holds true in that sense to the comic book foundation/origin. But without a doubt the females have strong roles, even more so in the second Black Panther II, I am told.
Black women will throw their support behind things they see as representative of them, a lot of us seem to just complain about their clout and success.
True enough. To a much greater extent relatively speaking at certain levels, black women are making better use of opportunities and time than similarly situated black men. They are involved in illegal activity less than men, go to school more, graduate more, go to college more etc and are filling slots in the workplace and bringing home the green. Relatively speaking, many black men need to step up their game and do likewise. That's not "feminism" that's how the race will move ahead, and be taken seriously. You look at some of these black women working 2 jobs, some at the very low end, and having to raise kids alone, etc etc and realize that they are the backbone of black communities in many places. Some look down on these women, but to me they are much more credible reps of the race that assorted blowhards on Instagram, Twitter etc.
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The allegedly unlikeable fem Captain Marvel Brie Larson:
The above being said there is some discontent abut Hollywood and Disney and the female characters and depictions they are pushing- where critics allege that too often males appear as buffonish types and the women heroes or leads are these strong creatures who can insult men at will, but not vice versa, and can do no wrong. This is fueling a lot of anti-feminist backlash in the internet grist mills.
This may be a vicious white male misynogistic troll thing, or genuine dislike of a persona or current Hollywood "woke messaging" in movies, etc etc.. Some blacks seem to have picked up on this..
But anyway, how was it with depictions of males in the movie?
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Post by kel on Sept 26, 2022 20:26:06 GMT -5
No
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Post by zarahan on Sept 27, 2022 10:49:18 GMT -5
No to the warrior queens but yes to Brie Larson?
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Post by kel on Sept 27, 2022 14:38:24 GMT -5
and Gal Gadot
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