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Post by anansi on Sept 13, 2010 18:51:24 GMT -5
I hope not too ot but what of the term Tema-hu I read some where it was translated as Lite or Ivory people how true is that? in the same vain as desrt-tu the red ones.
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Post by Tukuler al~Takruri on Sept 15, 2010 11:07:48 GMT -5
That's folk etymology relying on either Churchward or Massey and is unsustainable when using any dictionary of the AEL. "People created white" is a fabrication which was unfortunately referenced by JA Rogers and picked up on by later researchers.
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Post by Tukuler al~Takruri on Sept 15, 2010 18:15:08 GMT -5
More recently Wayne B. Chandler promulgates this erroneous etymology in his essay The Moor: Light of Europe's Dark Ageappearing in a couple of Van Sertima's journals along with other patently mistaken notions without critical examination. The Libyans, however, were originally caucasian troglodytes who occupied territory in the far north central portion of Africa. (15) Their presence has been documented since the first dynasty in Egypt, circa 3100 B.C. Dr. Rosalie David, an Egyptologist, describes them as "people with distinctive red or blond hair and blue eyes who lived on the edge of the western desert" (16) bordering Egypt. According to Gerald Massey, the Egyptians called the Libyans Tamahu. In Egyptian, Tama means people and created. Hu is white, light ivory. Tamahu are the created white people." (17)
(15) Budgett Meakin, The Moorish Empire (London: Swan Sonnenschein & Co., 1899) p6 (16) A. Rosalie David, The Making of the Past: the Egyptian Kingdom (Turnhout, Belgium: Eisevier-Phaidon, 1975) pp13-14 (17) Gerald Massey, Book of Beginnings (Voll University Books, 1881) p27 Two of his sources, the ones mislabeling Libyans as 'caucasian troglodytes' and wrongfully declaring Tamahu to mean 'created white people' are over 100 years old. While his other source parrots the status quo on blond and blue people who do not appear so in any monuments I've seen as far as blond hair goes. The original Libyans documented since the 1st dynasty were Tehenu not Tamahu and far from living in rock hewn dwellings were semi-settled and transhumant agro-pastoralists. They were of a medium brown skin colour per Bates, a likewise dated source that however is still definitive and much referenced by professionals. There are representations of western desert folk some with blue eyes some with red-brown hair some with skin of cream but contemporary with those are also representations of same said folk with dark hair dark eyes and skin of copper. No words for created, people, or white/light ivory in Pharoanic Egyptian match either tama or hu.
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Post by Tukuler al~Takruri on Sept 15, 2010 18:17:47 GMT -5
Massey in context The Egyptians identify themselves on the monuments as the RUT. A pictorial representation is found on the tomb of SETI 1 of four races of people arranged in groups of four men each. These are the NAHSI (negroes); the HEMU, men of a light brown hue, with blue eyes, and hair in a bag; the TAMAHU, who are fair as Europeans; and the RUT, who are Egyptians.
These are typical groups, not meant merely for conquered races, as may be gathered from the signification of their names. The TAMAHU are light-complexioned people. In Egyptian, TAMA means people, and created. HU is white, light, ivory. The TAMAHU are the ‘Created white’ people. NA is black, ink. NEH, a blackbird. Su is the person, or birth. The NAHSU one black born, or, in Egyptian phrase, black from the egg (SU).
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Post by anansi on Sept 15, 2010 19:44:11 GMT -5
Thanks Al Takruri that's a mistake I have been repeating on countless occasions.
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