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Post by nebsen on May 15, 2011 3:38:15 GMT -5
I'm sure many on ESR are aware of the Ishango Bone, this is the first video piece I have seen about it !
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Post by anansi on May 15, 2011 5:58:04 GMT -5
Yeah Nesben I first came across it in a book called Blacks In Science Ancient and Modern by edited by Ivan Sertima also it showed that system of counting spreading north into Kemet and West towards the Niger I had try to make a case that the Great Lakes regions in central Africa was bound to have been one of the cultural incubators of the making of Kemet.
They should not take the artifact into space that's nonsense it should be protected and shown to the public a replica should be used instead.
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Post by nebsen on May 15, 2011 14:35:54 GMT -5
I myself read about the Ishango Bone many years ago, from where, or what book, I can't remember, but it always stayed with me. It's to bad that their are not enough African as well as non Africans really taking serious the Great lake region with cutting edge archeology ! But maybe they are, & we just don't hear about it. The field tends to be somewhat arcane &, slow in getting information out to the public & tends to be a shared with only those in the field esp. concerning Africa !
I agree, I find it odd that this African Film maker George Kamanayo wants to take the actual bone into space to prove what ? A replica should & must be used. I find it strange that they would( Brussels Museum ) even allow it to be handled at all due to it's importance, & age. Like the mathematician Dirk Huylebrouck said , why is it on the 19th floor in some cabinet instead of being displayed on a golden table for all to see ? Now if this was a European find & artifact I'm sure they would never allow it to be handled by any one, except experts, & it would be on the main floor of the museum on a golden table for all to see !
Are their treads fro ES or other sources about the Ishango Bone, & the great lake Region ?
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Post by anansi on May 16, 2011 1:15:58 GMT -5
I myself read about the Ishango Bone many years ago, from where, or what book, I can't remember, but it always stayed with me. It's to bad that their are not enough African as well as non Africans really taking serious the Great lake region with cutting edge archeology ! But maybe they are, & we just don't hear about it. The field tends to be somewhat arcane &, slow in getting information out to the public & tends to be a shared with only those in the field esp. concerning Africa ! I agree, I find it odd that this African Film maker George Kamanayo wants to take the actual bone into space to prove what ? A replica should & must be used. I find it strange that they would( Brussels Museum ) even allow it to be handled at all due to it's importance, & age. Like the mathematician Dirk Huylebrouck said , why is it on the 19th floor in some cabinet instead of being displayed on a golden table for all to see ? Now if this was a European find & artifact I'm sure they would never allow it to be handled by any one, except experts, & it would be on the main floor of the museum on a golden table for all to see ! Are their treads fro ES or other sources about the Ishango Bone, & the great lake Region ? I think Asr Imhotep have something on it. |
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Post by anansi on May 17, 2011 21:41:54 GMT -5
More on the Ishango Bone and pre colonial African mathematics .Summary The paper provides a summary of (black) African ethnomathematics, with a special focus on results of possible interest to eventual mathematical properties of the Ishango rod(s). The African diversity in number names, gestures and systems (including base 2 of the Bushmen, probably related to the early Ishango people) shows frequent decompositions of numbers in small groups (similar to the carvings on the rod), while the existence of words for large numbers illustrates counting was not merely done for practical reasons. A particular case is the base 12, with it straightforward fi nger counting method on the hands, and used in Nigeria, Egypt and the Ishango region. Geometric representations are found in traditional sand drawings or decorations, where lines and fi gures obey abstract rules. Number lines drawn in the sand (using small and long lines as on the rod) make anyone immediately remind the Ishango carvings. Knot ed strings and carved counting sticks (even looking like exact wooden copies of the Ishango rod) illustrate an African counting practice, as confi rmed in writ en sources of, for instance, a git ed American slave. Finally, mancala mind games, Yoruba and Egyptian multiplication (using doublings as on the Ishango rod) or kinship studies all show ethnologists may have ignored for too long Africans were talking the mathematical language, ever since. etopia.sintlucas.be/3.14/Ishango_meeting/Mathematics_Africa.pdf
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Post by anansi on May 24, 2011 23:55:45 GMT -5
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