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Post by sttigray on Apr 12, 2010 18:30:22 GMT -5
Correspondence
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Post by sttigray on Apr 10, 2010 22:57:26 GMT -5
@ truth I would find it less than pathetic to find myself devoting considerable amounts of my time denigrating a race of people. I have no idea what would convince me to stoop to such levels, Truth while I agree with 10% of your premise, have you ever stopped to ask yourself, "what is it that is causes me to devote so much time in my attempt to make a people feel less than they are" The most ironic thing about your position is that men like you set even the most apathetic of us in motion, it is men like you that motivate us to greater perseverance. If you look into your own history you will find when Western Europeans were in much the same boat that Africans find themselves in today. What you will find, in spirit among your own people at that time is us staring back at you. Hint.....Rome(that is but one example of your people being in the shoes that we are in today)
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Post by sttigray on Apr 9, 2010 17:31:48 GMT -5
I agree, and thanks for the enlightenment as well, it is an interesting subject in which I have only begun to delve into. You have given me some interesting avenues of study, if you have more please feel free to share.
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Post by sttigray on Apr 8, 2010 20:26:05 GMT -5
Very nice work thank you very much
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Post by sttigray on Apr 8, 2010 20:22:44 GMT -5
Above is the map by Abraham Cresques the Jew dated 1375. Below is a map based on it by Mecia de Viladestes dated 1413. Earlier I made the mistake of saying the 2nd map was a copy of Cresques 1375 gifted to a French king. Fact is, the map gifted to young Charles VI was lost. Charles V had a copy of Cresques 1375 and had the de Viladestes 1413 map too, because it was more up to date. These maps show that Saharans were of both light and black skinned complexions, not either of one or the other colour as per the view of Eurocentrics and Afrocentrics. No one doubts that Moors were both black and white especially in latter times, my body of evidence points to the Moors being a pre-dominately African people. I am also interested in how the Asian Moors come in to the scheme of things initially
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Post by sttigray on Apr 6, 2010 19:49:30 GMT -5
When I upload a picture, how can I make it bigger. Also is our moderator the same Al Tukruri form original ES
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Post by sttigray on Apr 6, 2010 19:47:37 GMT -5
Waaay to easy to refute.
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Post by sttigray on Apr 6, 2010 19:45:37 GMT -5
I found something that you may find of interest I wonder what do you make of it?
1. Eugene Pittards (Univ of Geneva) study over the remains at the Livegeria Museum.
2. Professor Stephane Gisell, finding of the lack of semitic skulls and remains in Carthage. And primarily the negro type in Histoire Ancienne de L'Afrigue du Nord" 2. Anthropologist have studied skeletons from the Carthaginian cemeteries. Professor Eugene Pittard, then at the University of Geneva, reported that: "Other bones discovered in Punic Carthage, and housed in the Lavigerie Museum, come from personages found in special sarcophagi and probably belonging to the Carthaginian elite. Almost all the skulls are dolichocephalic." Futhermore, the sarcophagus of the highly venerated Priestess of Tanit, "the most ornate" and "the most artistic yet found," is also housed in the Lavigerie Museum. Pittard says "The woman buried there had Negro features. She belonged to the African race!" Professor Stephane Gsell was the author of the voluminous Histoire Ancienne de l'Afrique du Nord. Also based on anthropological studies conducted on Carthaginian skeletons, he declared that: "The so called Semitic type, characterised by the long, perfectly oval face, the thin aquiline nose and the lengthened cranium, enlarged over the nape of the neck has not [yet] been found in Carthage".
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Post by sttigray on Apr 5, 2010 3:26:47 GMT -5
Thanks Ill check that out
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Post by sttigray on Apr 4, 2010 17:02:34 GMT -5
Hitler had Jungle Fever and I have proof!......LOL. Not the jungle fever that we think of in these modern times but this thread addresses Nazi, and Wermacht recruitment in Africa. I am researching this topic and have some limited information, and if you can offer more, I would greatly appreciate it. Here is what I think that I know. I know that the Fascist recruited Africans to fight in South, Central and N. Africa. I know that Italy were more prolific in their recruitment. Attachments:
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Post by sttigray on Apr 4, 2010 16:48:46 GMT -5
Nice I liked that
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Post by sttigray on Apr 4, 2010 13:42:37 GMT -5
I'm finished. I posted nearly 3x as much moorish art than you and the other combined. It speaks for itself. I am not getting into a pointless back and forth. IT IS OVER. It was over for you on about page 2, but hey we cant win them all. while your scholarship was the equivalent of academic junk food, I it was fun... cya later. well meet again Attachments:
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Post by sttigray on Apr 4, 2010 11:09:16 GMT -5
That is all you got? I mean I didn't expect much, and I have yet to see a credible response . An inevitable disappointment......but so soon? Tsk Tsk now pick up your sword and lets play just a little more. Attachments:
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Post by sttigray on Apr 4, 2010 10:55:47 GMT -5
^Pre Roman times?! (LOL) Uh, what happened to Al Andulas? (LOL) ^^ carving of a Moorish noble woman from the Iberian peninsula. Play close attention to the date. Iberian Peninsula. "Tarik, a great African chief, was given the rank of general in the Arab army and sent to raid Spain. On April 30, 711, Tarik landed on the Spanish Coast with 7,000 troops. His troops consisted of 300 Arabs and 6,700 native Africans (Moors)". Ibn Husayn (ca. 950, recorded that these troops were "Sudanese", an Arabic word for Black people. Other than some pictures of Muslims or Arabs, do you have any proof, whatsoever I have yet to see anything even coming close to refuting, but if its any consolation, we are finding your effort or (lack thereof) quite amusing. Attachments:
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Post by sttigray on Apr 3, 2010 22:35:31 GMT -5
You may find this interesting as well. While Moors were pretty much thought of as Black it must be noted at least in my opinion that there were some that were not, but I believe(I do not know, but the evidence suggest) that they originated as Black. What I find curious is the lack of racism, that allowed others to become joined with such a great people. Attachments:
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