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Post by nebsen on May 28, 2012 21:33:19 GMT -5
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Post by anansi on May 28, 2012 22:54:22 GMT -5
Nesben haters gonna hate,there ain't much one can do about haters except avoid them when possible,if you allow yourself to hate ever hater you will become them.
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Post by nebsen on May 29, 2012 3:18:00 GMT -5
anansi, that sound like kind of a defeatist way of thinking. The reason I posted this video which I tried about a week ago to post, but for some strange reason I could not; is to spread the word about this brother. This also was sent as a email by a friend to me to share with others. Plus, their is a petition for people to sign on The Change.org. Their comes a time when we must stand up & fight & protect those who need our solidarity . If you viewed the video until the end, than you know they ask you to share & pass the word on. Also on the You -Tube page of this video, they ask you to sign the petition. I feel that's the very least one can do. .Things are getting very intense in this country at this time esp. around race & with the reelection of Obama in Nov; racist are coming out of the wood work! ! One can not ignore the reality. We have social media now to help us.... I feel their is a" Spring" spreading across the globe & America will not be exempt !
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Post by oshun on May 29, 2012 16:40:37 GMT -5
UCLA's attitude regarding anyone who is not white needs to change
Remember this? but yea I get so tired of this. This is how they treat black people who get these prestigious titles and complain when they dont and go to jail. phucking classic. Blacks need to form their own schools, their own standards.
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Post by truthteacher2007 on May 30, 2012 10:17:01 GMT -5
Nesben haters gonna hate,there ain't much one can do about haters except avoid them when possible,if you allow yourself to hate ever hater you will become them. I agree with you in that when dealing with peole on a one on one basis most of the time that is the way to go. However, in instances like these one can't simply ignore things. It has to be challenged because it has far deeoper reaching implications. This is what happens when we treat the Civil Rights Movement as an event that has passed. Yes we've come a long way, but the disease of racism is not dead. And like all diseases, if it is not totally irradicated, it comes back and often in form that is unresponsive to medication. This needs to be brought out and a coalition of all peoples of color and those of good consience. If these attitudes persist, next it will be Asians, then Latinos, then women. Where will it end? Or do we all want to wake up one day back in 1935?
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Post by anansi on May 30, 2012 11:47:35 GMT -5
Nesben haters gonna hate,there ain't much one can do about haters except avoid them when possible,if you allow yourself to hate ever hater you will become them. I agree with you in that when dealing with peole on a one on one basis most of the time that is the way to go. However, in instances like these one can't simply ignore things. It has to be challenged because it has far deeoper reaching implications. This is what happens when we treat the Civil Rights Movement as an event that has passed. Yes we've come a long way, but the disease of racism is not dead. And like all diseases, if it is not totally irradicated, it comes back and often in form that is unresponsive to medication. This needs to be brought out and a coalition of all peoples of color and those of good consience. If these attitudes persist, next it will be Asians, then Latinos, then women. Where will it end? Or do we all want to wake up one day back in 1935? I actually agree with you and Nesben but if one spent any amount of time on the net viewing comments about people of African decent on any issue... for me I just want to tune those people out,mind you I am tired without really have anything to be tired about as I did not fought those battles in the sixties but damn man!! why do we have to do this again and again it's 2012 already!!!!!!
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Post by nebsen on May 31, 2012 1:27:40 GMT -5
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Post by truthteacher2007 on May 31, 2012 8:30:32 GMT -5
why do we have to do this again and again it's 2012 already!!!!!! Because there is still a lot of work to do and things don't change by themselves.
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Post by mendeman on May 31, 2012 10:39:53 GMT -5
I agree with you in that when dealing with peole on a one on one basis most of the time that is the way to go. However, in instances like these one can't simply ignore things. It has to be challenged because it has far deeoper reaching implications. This is what happens when we treat the Civil Rights Movement as an event that has passed. Yes we've come a long way, but the disease of racism is not dead. And like all diseases, if it is not totally irradicated, it comes back and often in form that is unresponsive to medication. This needs to be brought out and a coalition of all peoples of color and those of good consience. If these attitudes persist, next it will be Asians, then Latinos, then women. Where will it end? Or do we all want to wake up one day back in 1935? I actually agree with you and Nesben but if one spent any amount of time on the net viewing comments about people of African decent on any issue... for me I just want to tune those people out,mind you I am tired without really have anything to be tired about as I did not fought those battles in the sixties but damn man!! why do we have to do this again and again it's 2012 already!!!!!! Why must anything be done over and over again? Either because the original product was not built to last, for whatever reason or because people half did the original effort. In this case, people did not think out the needs of the movement. If proper African history was being researched and written about by Africans and those of the diaspora, and then being infused into grade school text books, do you think we would still be having these conversations? Most text books in the western world and in Africa for that matter, deal with post slavery/colonization and European history. That is, we still have people running around, talking about Africans have produced nothing, that Ancient Egyptians were semetic/mixed race or that Africans had no writing systems (its a lie). We Africans (this includes the diaspora) need to get properly educated in archaeology, mtu ntr and other African languages, Greek, Arabic, Assyrian, Phoenician, Latin, Spanish, french and German. There needs to be geneticist as well as historians. There needs to be teams who go out to different areas in Africa, middle east and Europe for that matter. Digging and doing research in old manuscripts. I believe old manuscripts from other civilizations will help to shed light on the kingdoms within Africa during ancient times. There then needs to be peer reviewed publication of work. We also need some of us working in school boards in order to force this information into text books. Once the kids learn this from their youth, then mentalities will change. It was Diop who pointed out, after Greek rule in Egypt, the native population lost the ability to build sea navigable boats within ONE generation. Lets apply that to mentality. it would only take a generation or two with the proper education to bread out the present day ignorance. I also believe there needs to be MUCH more research on white slavery into Africa. I know millions were brought into North Africa during the middle ages (Moorish rule). I know the Egyptians also brought in tons of slaves for concubines as well was for labor from the middle east and possibly Europe as well. My point with the white importation of slaves is two fold. 1. it helps those to understand WHY north Africa looks the way it does today (as opposed to what it looked like 3,000 or 4,000 yrs ago. 2. It helps Africans (including the diaspora) to understand that no, whites are not inherently evil. They only did to us what we did to them all those centuries ago. It helps us to see each other as humans who make terrible mistakes. I believe that will help with the healing process. Other wise, you are going to have one group of people remaining very bitter at some level, which could lead to real trouble down the road. Real history needs to be taught. This will help give self worth to the sons and daughters of Africa. it wil also teach non Africans, that Africans have contributed TREMENDOUSLY to the world, and with out it (Africa) we wouldn't be where we are today. For example, in Africa binary is used for what some term "divination", for the board game Warri (some call it Mankala) etc. It was African's who introduced it (Binary) into Europe during the Middle Ages. Now, think if Africans never did that. We wouldn't be able to have the internet or computers for that matter. By bringing all this to light, it will teach that people are human, able to love, hate and make mistakes regardless of race or origin. THEN I believe we will be able to move on to something more important, like nation building.
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Post by nebsen on Jun 3, 2012 18:30:50 GMT -5
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