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Post by Tukuler al~Takruri on Jun 13, 2012 21:02:34 GMT -5
Mouvement national de la libération de l’Azawad
COMMUNIQUE Le 7 juin 2012, le MNLA a mis en place un Conseil Transitoire de l’État
de l’Azawad (CTEA) de vingt-huit membres dont la composition est la suivante : 1. Président Monsieur Bilal AG ACHERIF 2. Vice-président Monsieur Mahamadou DJERI MAIGA 3. Secrétaire à la Présidence Monsieur Mahmoud AG AGHALI 4. Chargé des relations Extérieures et de la Coopération Internationale Monsieur Hama AG MAHMOUD 5. Chargé de la Défense Nationale Colonel Mohamed NAJIM 6. Chargé de l’Administration du Territoire Monsieur Alla AG ELMEHDI 7. Chargé de la Sécurité Intérieure Colonel Hassane AG FAGAGA 8. Chargé de l’Economie et des Finances Monsieur Altanata AG EBALAGH 9. Chargé de l’Information Monsieur Mossa AG ASSARID10. Chargé de la justice Monsieur Saïd BEN BELLA 11. Chargé du Commerce et des Transports Monsieur Bilal AG OUSMANE12. Chargé de l’orientation et de la Prédication Islamique Monsieur Abdallah AG ALBACKAYE 13. Chargé des Mines, de l’Energie et de l’Eau Monsieur Ahmed Mohamed AG GUIDI 14. Chargé de la Communication et des Nouvelles Technologies Mohamed Lamine Ould AHMED 15. Chargé des Azawadi de l’Extérieur, des Droits de l’Homme et de l’Action Humanitaire Monsieur Ibrahim AG MOHAMED ASSALEH16. Chargé de la santé et des Affaires sociales Monsieur Habitika AG ASSAMADO 17. Chargé de l’Education Monsieur Abdoulkarim AG MATAFA 18. Chargé de l’Agriculture, de l’Elevage et de la Pêche Monsieur Ghabdi AG MOHAMED IBRAHIM 19. Chargé de la Cohésion Sociale, du Règlement des conflits et de la Réhabilitation de l’Autorité Coutumière Monsieur Mohamed Ousmane AG MOHAMEDOUNE 20. Chargé de la Jeunesse et des Sports Monsieur Mohamed Zeyni Aguissa MAIGA 21. Chargé de la Culture, de l’Artisanat et du Tourisme Monsieur Aroudeyni AG HAMATOU 22. Chargé de l’Environnement Monsieur Baye AG DICKNANE 23. Charge de la Promotion de la Femme, de l’Enfant et de la Famille Madame Nina Wallet INTALLOU24. Chargé des Domaines de l’Etat, du Foncier et de l’Urbanisme Monsieur Akli Iknane AG SOULEYMANE 25. Chargé Fonction Publique Emploi et formation professionnelle Monsieur Abdoulaye SEYDOU DICKO26. Porte Parole du Conseil Monsieur Hama AG SIDAHMED 27. Chargé des anciens combattants, des Martyrs et des Victimes de guerre Monsieur Youssouf AG ACHEICK28. Chargé du Plan et de la Statistique Monsieur Assarid AG MOHAMEDLe CTEA est chargé de la mise en œuvre de la politique générale de l’Etat de l’Azawad en matière de développement, de la défense, de la sécurité, de la politique extérieure, de l’éducation, de la cohésion sociale et de la gestion du territoire. Le CTEA est l’interlocuteur de l’Etat de l’Azawad tant au plan national qu’international. Il privilégie le dialogue et le développement des relations avec les Etats, institutions et organisations internationales. Le CTEA reste ouvert à l’ensemble des composantes sociales et compétences de l’Azawad en vue de contribuer à la construction de l’Etat de l’Azawad. Gao, le 7 juin 2012.
Le Secrétaire Général, Bilal AG ACHERIF
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Post by Tukuler al~Takruri on Jun 13, 2012 22:03:50 GMT -5
As always, Amazigh activist separate themselves from Africa's Blacks and see only themselves as northern Africa's indigenees as they fail to see any relation between themselves and Africa's Blacks all the while forwarding the notion of a political Tamazgha free of Blacks and Arabs. To them Azawad would be the launching ground for Imazighen to take over the whole of northern Africa including parts of Mali, Niger, and Chad. Aided Systran from an Amazigh forum:
While some quarrel over what is or is not AZAWAD. Blacks and Arabs organize and conspire together with the West,
on how to crush and suffocate the first nation of AZAWAD. Westerners unfortunately still have the privilige to dominate
indigenous North African and other populations. Natives from Egypt to the Canaries along with all those in the Sahel
were neither regarded nor present and have not even had a right to opinion about the decision to be taken about
their future and destiny. It seems the Aboriginal people of North Africa are invisible or nonexistent in the eyes of those
who decide, even with all the representative organizations like the World Amazigh Congress, Permanent Forum on
Indigenous Issues and everything else ......
We need all victims of these conspiracies to unite and speak with a
voice so high and mighty as to be heard and
stop this manufactured behind the curtains conspiracy to eradicate the Berber cause and all other struggles of the
victims of the world.
Conspiracy of Blacks, Arabs and Westerners against Aboriginal people in Africa.
Last Modified: 08/06/2012 - Al Qaeda - Islamism - Mali - UN - Touareg - AU
The AU claims the support of the UN to intervene in northern Mali
The African Union will request the support of the UN to intervene militarily in northern Mali, a prey to violence.
The territory since late March is controlled by Tuareg rebels and Islamist militants. By Dispatch (text) AFP -
The African Union will entreat the UN for its "support" for military intervention in northern Mali, controlled for more
than two months by armed groups, including Islamists, announced Thursday Abidjan African and UN officials.
The participants "expressed their willingness to work towards the rapid mobilization of adequate support of the UN",
which would involve "a formal request" AU fixing the "clear mandate" of a military operation to restore the territorial
integrity of Mali, said the final document.
Northern Mali at the end of March fell into the hands of Tuareg rebels and especially armed Islamists, including
al-Qaeda in Islamic Maghreb (AQIM), resulting in a de facto partition of the country following significant threats
to the region, already committed by AQIM attacks and kidnappings for several years in the Sahel.
Analysis
MALI
, Mali to test the union of the MNLA and Ansar Dine in the North
Representatives of the UN, AU and the Economic Community of West African States (ECOWAS) meeting in Abidjan
have "recognized the need to mobilize all appropriate means, including military," to help the Malian government to
restructure its army and "support efforts to restore in the shortest possible time its authority over the north".
The text also says, to help "combat terrorist groups", "criminals" or other "whose action calls into question the
stability and security of Mali and the region".
Participants were assured that their organizations and countries were willing to provide support including "financial"
and "logistics" to these efforts.
A referral to the Security Council of the UN should be carried out by the Peace and Security Council (PSC) of the AU,
according to these officials, who urge them to meet "as soon as possible".
While Mali is sinking into the partition and the mediation of ECOWAS stalled, the Head of State of Benin and
President of the AU, Thomas Boni Yayi, on May 30 launched the idea of a referral to the Security Council
of the United Nations for the creation of an African intervention "force" in Mali.
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Post by truthteacher2007 on Jun 14, 2012 13:47:14 GMT -5
I think they should all be rounded up and stuck in a time machine back to Mississippi circa 1935.
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Post by mendeman on Jun 14, 2012 14:03:28 GMT -5
Most Amazigh are black. I would be interested to hear them speak (if it is in Arabic, as I know that language) to hear the language they are using how they are referring to different groups. I have a feeling this is less about color (as most amazigh are black) and more about ethnicity. Generally western sources have a way of translating things to give it a racial spin when there isn't one.
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Post by Tukuler al~Takruri on Jun 14, 2012 16:51:24 GMT -5
The last piece I posted had nothing to do with the West's idea or
ideology.
Like I wrote when introducing it, it comes directly from an Amazigh
forum hence represents an Amazigh voice not a western one.
The old tarikhs and other medieval to pre-colonial era Arabic
writings of West Africa class both Berbers and Arabs as white
though this should not be confused with classifying them as
Europeans.
I would like to keep my thread ontarget with infos on Azawad
as a state that seceded from Mali. I am broaching a thread in
the General Studies section for further discussion on Colour
of the Amazigh.
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Post by Tukuler al~Takruri on Oct 7, 2012 15:58:24 GMT -5
Mali’s Tuareg rebels soften separatist stance
Reuters, 07/10 21:58 CET
By Mathieu Bonkoungou
OUAGADOUGOU (Reuters) – Mali’s main Tuareg rebel group said on
Sunday it was no longer seeking to carve out a sovereign desert
homeland, softening its stance as it seeks Western support to rout
Islamists that have taken over the region.
In April the MNLA had declared an independent state in Mali’s north
called Azawad, days after a coup in Mali’s southern capital Bamako,
but Al Qaeda-linked Islamists later hijacked the rebellion and took
control of the vast territory.
Western and regional powers are now mulling military intervention to
retake the zone amid fears an Islamist safe haven could destabilise
the region, and MNLA is aggressively seeking backing for a role in
the effort.
“We declare a right to self-determination, but that doesn’t mean
secession,” said Ibrahim Ag Assaleh, an MNLA official, following a
meeting with regional mediator and Burkinabe President Blaise Compaore
in Ouagadougou.
“As for independence, that’s our objective. But independence doesn’t
solely mean territorial independence,” he said at a press conference. “It
is the right to life, to health care, to education, a political voice and
freedom of expression.”
Mali’s Tuaregs have for years complained they are being neglected by
the central government in Bamako, and in January the MNLA launched a
rebellion bolstered by fighters and weapons spilling out from the civil
war in Libya.
Their claims of an independent Azawad were widely rejected
internationally and later fell apart after Islamist groups Ansar Dine and
MUJWA, seeking to impose a strict version of Islamic law in Mali, pushed
MNLA to the sidelines.
The MNLA said last month in a letter to U.N. Secretary General Ban Ki-
moon that any concerted international military effort to fight the
Islamists now controlling northern Mali must involve them, or will be
doomed to fail.
But the group’s influence has waned, and foreign powers and many
Malians blame it for plunging the country into crisis.
Foreign powers are also split over whether Mali should hold elections
before a military intervention, amid concerns the current post-coup
transitional government and military leadership will be unable to manage
the effort.
(Writing by Richard Valdmanis; Editing by Will Waterman)
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Post by azrur on Oct 9, 2013 15:16:04 GMT -5
Most Amazigh are black. I would be interested to hear them speak (if it is in Arabic, as I know that language) to hear the language they are using how they are referring to different groups. I have a feeling this is less about color (as most amazigh are black) and more about ethnicity. Generally western sources have a way of translating things to give it a racial spin when there isn't one. if you refer to tuareg they are specific caste eklan of songhai slaves descent and most live in sedentary, however the caste system is not of race but of descent so you will see the higher caste some will be black but mostly never a light skin eklan the rebels are not target black tuareg because of black skin but they may be of mali government, historically eklan in mali have been betray to the nomad tuareg and when they get in government none is helped for their nomadic brothers and sisters and you are correct the none race but ethnicity, the mali discriminate against eklan also here are some black tuareg fight for azawad freedom     and to the say that they are say only white native to north africa, is not you the same who says that the light skinned can not be indigenous to north africa? also one more thing the tuareg call they imuhagh |
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Post by azrur on Oct 9, 2013 15:23:30 GMT -5
not to say the light skin tuareg have not betray, the mercenary posing as iyad ag ghaly who lead ansar dine hired by mali to attack the azawad  |
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Post by mendeman on Jan 9, 2014 16:36:09 GMT -5
Azrur Sorry I never answered you before, I do not spend much time on these boards. Anyway, as to your question about "white" and "tan" looking so called Berbers and their role in the history of North Africa. Those Tans and whites are VERY late comers to North Africa. North Africa was almost completely black up until about 1100 AD, when the importation of white slaves picked up. Before that, the region was almost completely black. I believe you probably still had some pockets of Roman, Greek, Assyrian, and Persian descended peoples, especially in North Egypt. But by in large, modern day people like Haratin, Tawarga, Tebu etc. are the true North African. There is a great peer reviewed paper called "What happened to the Ancient Libyans? Chasing Sources across the Sahara from Herodotus to Ibn Khaldun" written by Dr. Richard L Smith. He quotes a number of sources, dating back to about 500 BCE, which describe nothing but BLACK Africans living in North Africa. Then about 1100 AD Ibn Khaldoun describes one of the Sanhaja tribes is being bayda “whites” and the rest as blacks (suda). Ibn Khaldoun in his description even states the Black tribes of the Sanhaja are believed to be the original group and the whites looked like that because they were in the north and thus their skin became white. A silly notion indeed, but still shows that North Africa in ancient times, up until recently was dominated by blacks. Also if you watch this video www.youtube.com/watch?v=h4sbLY6rxxg, Dr. Keita talks about the white and tan Toureg of a certain geographic location who have had genetic studies done on them. He states they have European admixture, which would explain the current look of some of them. Even still, with their tan and white skin, you can tell there is black African genetic base, through out that population. That video might not be the one I am thinking about, if not just youtube search for Dr. Shomarka Keita, and watch all his videos. One of them talks about genetic test done on Toureg populations. The basics of their history is, some are most likely mixed with white slaves or probably even white Muslims who left Europe after the fall of the Moorish empire. We know that some found their way to North and West Africa, as did Jews. Which would make sense, some of the black Berber tribes were Jews before Islam came into Africa. Contrary to popular belief, many did not convert to Islam and remained Jews for a LONG time. When the Arabs and Africans attached Spain, there were Jews among them who helped to conquer Spain. Their descendants probably became whiter looking when they mixed with European people, and they then went back to their ancestral homes in North/ North West Africa, once Moorish Spain fell. There is a good peer reviewed paper titled “Judaic Threads in the West African Tapestry: No More Forever?” by Dr. Labelle Prussin. In it he shows source material from Arab travelers, who stated they encountered black “Jewish” peoples in North and West Africa. Also, if you read Tarikh Al Sudan, there is a preamble concerning a Malian man, who gives the manuscript (Tarikh Al Sudan) to a French researcher. The French researcher noted that the Malian told this white man “While Europeans were living in Caves, we were worshiping the God of Moses”, in relation to the fact many peoples in the area claim to have originally practiced a mosaic religion of some sort, long before there was ever a white skinned person claiming to practice a religion based on the teachings of the Prophet Moses. |
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Post by anastasiaescrava on Jan 10, 2014 0:13:41 GMT -5
So let me get this straight, they don't see themselves as Africans nor Arabs and want to distance themselves from other Africans although they are primarily African?
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Post by mendeman on Jan 10, 2014 8:17:48 GMT -5
anastasiaescrava Not all toureg are like that. Some and I would venture to say MOST are black ranging from very very dark skin to light skin blacks. Then there are some who look heavily admixed. But the issue isn't one of we aren't Africans or Arabs. It is a issue of them being marginalized and that frustration manifesting itself in very bad behavior in some cases. Many of these people live in camps and have substandard living. You know, here is the thing. Look at African diaspora around the world. Anywhere you see them where they have been marginalized and forced to live in sub standard conditions they are going to act out in bad ways. This is the human condition. You see the same thing with those Lebanese Arabs in Australia, or even Native Americans in America who live in bad conditions. We are getting to caught up in color and not really looking at root causes.
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Post by anastasiaescrava on Jan 11, 2014 15:40:54 GMT -5
anastasiaescrava Not all toureg are like that. Some and I would venture to say MOST are black ranging from very very dark skin to light skin blacks. Then there are some who look heavily admixed. But the issue isn't one of we aren't Africans or Arabs. It is a issue of them being marginalized and that frustration manifesting itself in very bad behavior in some cases. Many of these people live in camps and have substandard living. You know, here is the thing. Look at African diaspora around the world. Anywhere you see them where they have been marginalized and forced to live in sub standard conditions they are going to act out in bad ways. This is the human condition. You see the same thing with those Lebanese Arabs in Australia, or even Native Americans in America who live in bad conditions. We are getting to caught up in color and not really looking at root causes. Of course not. I just want to know why they want to separate so badly. What's really going on? |
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Post by azrur on Jan 11, 2014 18:20:55 GMT -5
So let me get this straight, they don't see themselves as Africans nor Arabs and want to distance themselves from other Africans although they are primarily African? ......... are you serious? blacks call them mutts slave bastards and mulatto yet you wonder why they dont feel any kinship with them? the reason they want to separate is because malian government is cowards and it is corrupt and does not allow them any rights |
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Post by mendeman on Jan 11, 2014 21:33:07 GMT -5
anastasiaescrava Not all toureg are like that. Some and I would venture to say MOST are black ranging from very very dark skin to light skin blacks. Then there are some who look heavily admixed. But the issue isn't one of we aren't Africans or Arabs. It is a issue of them being marginalized and that frustration manifesting itself in very bad behavior in some cases. Many of these people live in camps and have substandard living. You know, here is the thing. Look at African diaspora around the world. Anywhere you see them where they have been marginalized and forced to live in sub standard conditions they are going to act out in bad ways. This is the human condition. You see the same thing with those Lebanese Arabs in Australia, or even Native Americans in America who live in bad conditions. We are getting to caught up in color and not really looking at root causes. Of course not. I just want to know why they want to separate so badly. What's really going on? They are treated like animals. Like azrur said, they are not looked on favorably by Malians at all. Now again, some Toureg have done some bad things, sure. But they have been marginalized in Mali. They are nomadic and late comers to that part of the Sahel. So for other groups who have been there a lot longer, this Toureg presence isn't always seen as something positive. You should see the camps they have some touregs living in. It is pretty bad, and very sad. |
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Post by azrur on Jan 12, 2014 0:06:40 GMT -5
Of course not. I just want to know why they want to separate so badly. What's really going on? They are treated like animals. Like azrur said, they are not looked on favorably by Malians at all. Now again, some Toureg have done some bad things, sure. But they have been marginalized in Mali. They are nomadic and late comers to that part of the Sahel. So for other groups who have been there a lot longer, this Toureg presence isn't always seen as something positive. You should see the camps they have some touregs living in. It is pretty bad, and very sad.  some of the more southernly parts of azawad maybe but sahara has belonged to tuareg since tiski brought the tribes south blacks have been encroaching them since malian songhai one of them empires incurred the wrath of them and the tuareg sack their city timbuktu three times |
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