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Post by Son of Ra on Dec 10, 2013 23:30:20 GMT -5
I just posted this on the old ES. Anyways... www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-4a1Gil_zo Okay I really do not make threads like this and trust me I do not...But I had to post this. Me being mixed, I found this crazy. White women are not my main preference(black women/hispanic), but I want to get to the bottom of this. Its not the video itself but the comment section. Yes this video is quite old and yes we all know how the racism is on YouTube, but I want to explore this topic in detail. The video is obviously about a bunch of white girls and their preferences being black men. But what really surprised was the comments made by racist white men. Why was I so surprised? This shouldn't be anything new...But it was, because I've NEVER seen so much insecurity loneliness, immaturity in my life by a group of men. As a person who is mixed with a black father, I noticed that racist white men seem to try and demonize not just white women but also many other non black women who do date black men. Like black men are some spawn of the devil. Its just weird. In the comment sections I only seen racist white men getting upset and not even white women. I know people say they don't like their women dating out, but when a black women dates out black men rarely get mad. Yeah some do, but not on the level of which racist white men do. Also when Asian women date out(and they are known for dating out the most to white men), you don't see Asian men saying anything. Also when a black man dates a hispanic women(and trust me a lot do), you almost never hear hispanic men complain or try and demonize their women or black men. So do white racist have a sexual inferiority complex. What I also noticed is that the girls in the video didn't reflect the stereotype that white women who like a black man are trashy, fat, ugly, sluts,etc...I know racist are just racist but this is just weird. What are you guys views on this?
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Post by azrur on Dec 11, 2013 0:50:54 GMT -5
maybe?? i think if this was white men talking about how they love the asian women you see more of the lady being angry it like a man they are angry at the women for dating out of the race the women more angry at the men yeah? for example today a mexican boy was talking to a girl about why she date black man when mexican are better there is this www.stormfront.org/forum/t934698/ and the jews have a word for women who marry gentiles you see how it is the opposite genders they are more angry when the other one date outside race
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Post by truthteacher2007 on Dec 11, 2013 15:11:48 GMT -5
To understand the dynamic at play here, racism, you have to understand the European class system because that is what lies at the heart of racism. Racism is an extention of the European class structure. There was a very good documentary about this on PBS a few weeks ago. You may still be able to find it. It's called Secrates of the Manor House. It showed in great depth the way English society was divided. Ruled by an aristocracy who weilded power from their palatial estates that were tended by hundreds of servants. It showed that society was dependent on everyone knowing their place. Even the aristocracy was divided by strict lines rank. It went in decending order from the king to the lowest level which I believe were the dukes, or counts. Within the servant class there were also lines of distinction. The butler and head maid, (can't remember the title), were at the top, followed by the ladies maid, the footmen all the way to the house maids and kitchen maids at the bottom. Everyone was made to feel keenly aware of their rank in society. Now imagine you are an English peasant, or one of the urban poor. You are on the bottom of society, the absolute bottom. You're one step up from being a slave. In reality, you really are no better than a slave except in name. Now you get a chance to go to a new world with the hope of obtaining something never possible back in Europe. Wealth, class, respect. We, the fact is, very few ever received any type of wealth, but they did get something. They got status. Once the economy of the country became dependent of slave labor, a new class was created. A class lower than thier class. All of a sudden, they're not on the bottom any more. Even if they're dressed in rags and so malnurished their teeth are falling out, they now have status, they are free and they are now part of this thing called the "white race". They now have authority over someone else. There is now someone who has to bow and scrape to them. They are now, for the first time, "better" than someone else. They now have a sense of dignity in a way they never had before. "I may be poor, uneducated, dumb as a brick, but at least I ain't a nigger". A friend of mine from Egypt told me he asked a white guy he knew why he was so racist. The man replied to him, "well if you ain't better than a nigger, who are you better than"? Do you understand now? The need for self esteem is so great, that they will do anything for it. Even if it is based on an illusion. Or, should I say ESPECIALLY if it is based on an illusion. You see, if your sense of self worth is based on something false, outside yourself, such as material wealth, your physical appearance, your job, your car, at the core of your being, you know this is a lie. Therefore, you have to fight to the death to prevent the truth from invading your psyche and shattering the illusion. The problem is they are not aware of, or do not believe that all they truly need is within themselves. That is harder to obtain because it requiers real work to cultivate. An illusion is much easier and quicker. Therefore, because they come from a world view that is so dependent on hierarchy, the thought of equality is threatening. If my woman can find someone who is supposed to be inferior to me, more attractive and desierable to me, what does that mean? It threatens the illusion, in fact, it blows it wide open and if the illusion is gone, then what are they left with? The depth of their hatred and racism is a yard stick for the depth of their fear and insecurity. Your very existance, the son of a black man and a white woman represents the thing they fear the most. The erradication of the class system. The thought that if they had to compete on a level playing field with the blacks, they might loose to a people who were supposed to be inferior terrifies them. And when people are afraid they can and often do unspeakable things to sooth their fears. These two videos speak to the threat whites felt at the end of slavery. Particulary telling is the segment in the second video recounting what happened to the black community in Greenwood Oklahoma in the early 1900's. video.pbs.org/video/2365111350/video.pbs.org/video/2365117121/
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Post by azrur on Dec 11, 2013 17:22:04 GMT -5
is it like the conflicts of the ethnic groups you know how they hate each other the jews in israel they hate the palestinians the berbers they hate the arabs they support the israel just because they kill the arabs and like in the balkans those people they kill each other yeah? when a tribe they fight another one for many times so they hate them
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Post by truthteacher2007 on Dec 11, 2013 18:26:49 GMT -5
is it like the conflicts of the ethnic groups you know how they hate each other the jews in israel they hate the palestinians the berbers they hate the arabs they support the israel just because they kill the arabs and like in the balkans those people they kill each other yeah? when a tribe they fight another one for many times so they hate them Not really. In the cases you mentioned the hatred is based on two groups fighting against each other in competition for power, resources etc. With Afro Americans and whites there never was any such conflict or competition really. The hatered on the part of whites towards us was based totally on fear. In the beginning, when most whites and Africans belonged to the servant class, there was no such division. Blacks and Whites worked side by side, lived with each other, often married each other. It wasn't until the ruling class, feeling threatened by the constant uprisings to overthrow the colonial governments that blacks in the American colonies became permanent slaves and whites were given a higher status than them as a result. Many poor whites were hired to be overseeers and slave catchers. They were raised to believe that they were superior to blacks and this is why they resented the end of slavery and any moves to provide blacks with equality. After reconstruction, many poor whites saw blacks that they once ruled over obtain education and positions of power and wealth. They resented this. It made them furious to see people they were once told were inferior to them now elevated to positions above them in terms of economic and educational achievement. Even worse was to be under the authority of blacks who had gained political offices. It is because they felt ashamed and humiliated that they created systems to oppress blacks and prevent them from attaining any degree of success. A black man or woman who showed any signs of intelligence greater than a white person could and often was killed from "not knowing their place". As I said before, this sentiment grew out of the European class system where everybody had to show respect to the person of a higher class. They wanted to keep this system because it fed their egos and their pride. The last thing they ever wanted was a society based on true equality and freedom. This documentary explains how the transformation happened in the American colonies.
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Post by anansi on Dec 11, 2013 23:34:49 GMT -5
Truthteacher Add to that the threat of genetic annihilation in the minds of many,but it's not really the genes it's the color since you really can't see genes just by eyeballing someone,another thing is the fetish of the black man's supposedly large male member(penis envy) they imagine their wives,daughters,potential mates etc secretly lusting after it among the lynched or more frequently flogged group in America was White women suspected of lusting after Black men. This was known by P.E back in the day.. As regards to other non White Women and Black men/White men competing, the fear still remained all else being equal education,finance,social status. There were stories made up by White service men during WWII and shortly there after that Black men had tails,this apparently happened a lot in Asia.
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Post by Son of Ra on Dec 12, 2013 0:31:38 GMT -5
Great post you guys.
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Post by herodotus on Dec 15, 2013 12:03:53 GMT -5
I just posted this on the old ES. Anyways... www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-4a1Gil_zo Okay I really do not make threads like this and trust me I do not...But I had to post this. Me being mixed, I found this crazy. White women are not my main preference(black women/hispanic), but I want to get to the bottom of this. Its not the video itself but the comment section. Yes this video is quite old and yes we all know how the racism is on YouTube, but I want to explore this topic in detail. The video is obviously about a bunch of white girls and their preferences being black men. But what really surprised was the comments made by racist white men. Why was I so surprised? This shouldn't be anything new...But it was, because I've NEVER seen so much insecurity loneliness, immaturity in my life by a group of men. As a person who is mixed with a black father, I noticed that racist white men seem to try and demonize not just white women but also many other non black women who do date black men. Like black men are some spawn of the devil. Its just weird. In the comment sections I only seen racist white men getting upset and not even white women. I know people say they don't like their women dating out, but when a black women dates out black men rarely get mad. Yeah some do, but not on the level of which racist white men do. Also when Asian women date out(and they are known for dating out the most to white men), you don't see Asian men saying anything. Also when a black man dates a hispanic women(and trust me a lot do), you almost never hear hispanic men complain or try and demonize their women or black men. So do white racist have a sexual inferiority complex. What I also noticed is that the girls in the video didn't reflect the stereotype that white women who like a black man are trashy, fat, ugly, sluts,etc...I know racist are just racist but this is just weird. What are you guys views on this? "The video is obviously about a bunch of white girls and their preferences being black men". Hardly. The source is from worldstarhiphop. These females dress, act and speak black and are involved in the black hiphop culture. They are not representative of white females at all.
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Post by azrur on Dec 15, 2013 12:47:14 GMT -5
i think truthteacher's post very good analysis
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Post by locdiva on Jan 27, 2014 17:02:20 GMT -5
Truth Teacher, you are correct. Many whites consideer blacks a sexual and social threat. Some of the white elite and poor have the same issue. It is all of Western/American/European society. I would also include certain white women who adhere to those ideals. Racism is so very pervasive.
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Post by sonofodin on Jun 19, 2015 18:24:34 GMT -5
I found this board by random and it mostly seems like an echo chamber of black bias. I'll give the real truth here. www.youtube.com/watch?v=esA3xAHilsk Videos like this one got taken down had millions of views. Most of the comments were racist against white males for being with asian women. Second, as far as blacks guys go why are they so insecure over the n word while whites never care if you call them cracks. Sure some might, but black guys will go into angry fits over it. So my point being people have their own grimaces. But I highly doubt most white guys care as there are asian, latinas, black women, who do have preferences for them too. Even gallup poll shows that most white guys don't care. Youtube is troll city and not an accurate representation.
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Post by snakepit on Jun 27, 2015 11:16:19 GMT -5
I found this board by random and it mostly seems like an echo chamber of black bias. I'll give the real truth here. www.youtube.com/watch?v=esA3xAHilsk Videos like this one got taken down had millions of views. Most of the comments were racist against white males for being with asian women. Second, as far as blacks guys go why are they so insecure over the n word while whites never care if you call them cracks. Sure some might, but black guys will go into angry fits over it. So my point being people have their own grimaces. But I highly doubt most white guys care as there are asian, latinas, black women, who do have preferences for them too. Even gallup poll shows that most white guys don't care. Youtube is troll city and not an accurate representation. Horseshit. Besides, why do whites feel so compelled to POLICE ANYTHING that black people are doing. According to you, you don't care, but when an African says it's not okay for white guy to use the n-word, all hell breaks loose. "Why can't we say it?"; "Ya'll are saying it" ; "It's just a word" ; "That's reverse racism!" ;"What about black on black crime?" You sure do make a lot of noise for not caring.. smgdh.
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