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Post by samuel on Oct 18, 2015 12:10:47 GMT -5
So if they keep showing the tombs to tourists the art will eventually fade? Thank God we have photography to preserve it for the historical record. It was interesting when I went into the tombs back in 01 it seemed as if they were painted the day before. It's funny but those statues of Tutankhamen that are painted black because they were found in an intact tomb where photography was quickly used to take pictures of it. They tried saying at the museum that he was painted black because he was descending into the underworld. I thought to myself "bull s h I t " he was painted black because he was black yo. It's obvious if you look in the creases of statues such as the one of Nefertiti that the black was scraped off or faded with time. Just look in the creases of their art and you can see the original color.
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Post by samuel on Oct 18, 2015 12:28:05 GMT -5
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Post by truthteacher2007 on Oct 18, 2015 14:31:51 GMT -5
So if they keep showing the tombs to tourists the art will eventually fade? Thank God we have photography to preserve it for the historical record. It was interesting when I went into the tombs back in 01 it seemed as if they were painted the day before. It's funny but those statues of Tutankhamen that are painted black because they were found in an intact tomb where photography was quickly used to take pictures of it. They tried saying at the museum that he was painted black because he was descending into the underworld. I thought to myself "bull s h I t " he was painted black because he was black yo. It's obvious if you look in the creases of statues such as the one of Nefertiti that the black was scraped off or faded with time. Just look in the creases of their art and you can see the original color. Not everything is a conspiracy. They were correct about the color of those statues. Remember, they weren't making art for art's sake. These were objects that were made with a metaphysical purpose. There was a great deal of symbolism with regards to the use of color depending on the purpose of the object. How dark was he in real life? Well if you go to Upper Egypt you will see lots of people who look just like him, same reddish brown coco color. There is a bust of him at a younger age that depicts his natural skin color. Now as I said before, I avoid using terms like black because they are subjective. He was an African and you can still find people in Egypt and other parts of Africa in that region who look just like him. But keep in mind that there were also people who were of lighter complexion there too. They were also Africans as well. Once again, when thinking in terms of African we have to think in terms of diversity. There is not one set of features, hair type or skin color that represent all Africans, not even Sub Saharan Africans. The Wolof are very deep brown, almost black in color with very muscular bodies. The San are short, wiry, with features we would consider Far Asian and a light yellowish brown color. Very different, yet they are both Africans. As for the tombs, yes, a lot of them are in danger. Remember, they were not meant to be opened to the elements. It's because they were closed for so long that they have been able to last this long. The water table is rising in the Nile Valley due to the modern irrigation practices and the naming of the waters at Aswan. This also means the humidity level is increasing and as I mentioned, it does rain periodically. Add to that the moisture in the breath of hundreds of thousands of people going into them and you add even more to the moisture and elements contributing to their erosion. This is why they are closing many of them and fighting to find ways to preserve them. Even the temple of Karnak is loosing many of the carvings because they are flaking off due to the levels of pollution in the air from cars, the vibrations of traffic and the rising levels of salts in the earth. When the Nile flooded, it washed away the buildup of such minerals. Now that it doesn't happen, the stones are absorbing those minerals and its causing the carvings to flake off at an alarming rate. |
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Post by samuel on Oct 18, 2015 14:34:38 GMT -5
Why on earth did they build the Aswan dam? They didn't need to control the flooding of the Nile. It happened the same time every year.
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Post by truthteacher2007 on Oct 18, 2015 18:48:17 GMT -5
Why on earth did they build the Aswan dam? They didn't need to control the flooding of the Nile. It happened the same time every year. Several reasons. #1: The Nile wasn't always regular when it flooded. Sometimes it would give enough water, sometimes not enough and sometimes way too much. Also, they began to experience a population increase. They needed to produce more food and they needed more water. Also, they needed a reliable source of electricity. However, like most modern advancements, they also have a down side. Sometimes the consequences aren't apparent until much later. Such is the case with the dam. |
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Post by samuel on Oct 18, 2015 22:39:54 GMT -5
When I look at something such as a statue or a painting and they look like black people. I apply Occam's razor to the statue of Tut painted jet black. I don't believe they would have painted him black to describe his descent into the underworld. I understand that their art was symbolic. But with all the other evidence included. Especially now that we have his DNA. It's almost definte that they painted him black because he was black. There is no need to use abstract ideas when observing art. Take it as it is and move along. When I see a god painted blue. I say to myself. Osiris is blue. If it's got the head of a cat. Than Bastet is a cat and they worshipped animals which is a remnant of totemism. When the women are painted yellow however I say the men evidently prefered Asian or Khoisan women. Of course you can try reading into it like you would a David Lynch film but then again he is still alive so we can know the kind of the artist. But with the recent evidence on Tut I can say with certainty that the statues of him were painted like him. Isn't his family the first family to portray people as they really were by the way? At least that's what the Art Historians tell us. That Akhenaten, his father had artworks portrayed more realistically rather than ideally?
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Post by anansi on Oct 19, 2015 3:27:38 GMT -5
When I look at something such as a statue or a painting and they look like black people. I apply Occam's razor to the statue of Tut painted jet black. I don't believe they would have painted him black to describe his descent into the underworld. I understand that their art was symbolic. But with all the other evidence included. Especially now that we have his DNA. It's almost definte that they painted him black because he was black. There is no need to use abstract ideas when observing art. Take it as it is and move along. When I see a god painted blue. I say to myself. Osiris is blue. If it's got the head of a cat. Than Bastet is a cat and they worshipped animals which is a remnant of totemism. When the women are painted yellow however I say the men evidently prefered Asian or Khoisan women. Of course you can try reading into it like you would a David Lynch film but then again he is still alive so we can know the kind of the artist. But with the recent evidence on Tut I can say with certainty that the statues of him were painted like him. Isn't his family the first family to portray people as they really were by the way? At least that's what the Art Historians tell us. That Akhenaten, his father had artworks portrayed more realistically rather than ideally?   Black was the color of rejuvenation or rebirth, as in the example of pic #2 this is not unlike our modern saying that Black is beautiful regardless of our individual complexion whereas in their time Black is sacred. Klik ^ |
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Post by samuel on Oct 19, 2015 9:33:34 GMT -5
I was looking at pictures of the Khoisan last night and they looked almost exactly like the images of the AE. The Asian eyes. The yellow and red skin. I wonder if somehow they are related. I don't think the Khoisan are e1b1a though. Or Bantu.
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Post by truthteacher2007 on Oct 19, 2015 16:30:53 GMT -5
When I look at something such as a statue or a painting and they look like black people. I apply Occam's razor to the statue of Tut painted jet black. I don't believe they would have painted him black to describe his descent into the underworld. I understand that their art was symbolic. But with all the other evidence included. Especially now that we have his DNA. It's almost definte that they painted him black because he was black. There is no need to use abstract ideas when observing art. Take it as it is and move along. When I see a god painted blue. I say to myself. Osiris is blue. If it's got the head of a cat. Than Bastet is a cat and they worshipped animals which is a remnant of totemism. When the women are painted yellow however I say the men evidently prefered Asian or Khoisan women. Of course you can try reading into it like you would a David Lynch film but then again he is still alive so we can know the kind of the artist. But with the recent evidence on Tut I can say with certainty that the statues of him were painted like him. Isn't his family the first family to portray people as they really were by the way? At least that's what the Art Historians tell us. That Akhenaten, his father had artworks portrayed more realistically rather than ideally? Anansi gave a good reply. Yes, the Amarna period was more naturalistic in certain respects, but keep in mind what I told you, most of these objects were not art in the sense that we understand art. They were created with magical properties for spiritual functions. The colors were often times symbolic. As for the use of yellow to depict women, Anansi answered that. I would also add to what he said by adding that it also signified beauty. In fact in the Sahara there are cultures who still apply yellow makeup on festive occasions. It was the convention to show women as being yellow, but in the 18th dynasty it became more common to show them as being the same color as the men, brown as can be seen on mummy masks from that period. I doubt that they have any immediate Koisan linage as this would have been picked up in DNA profiles, nor do they have any Far East Asiatic connections. As far as the shape of the eyes, this is common amongst East Africans, can still be seen in Egypt, Nubia and Sudan today. |
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Post by samuel on Oct 19, 2015 18:59:36 GMT -5
All this seems so much more logical from an African based perspective rather than a European. Thank you guys
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Post by samuel on Oct 20, 2015 20:59:18 GMT -5
Look at this photo. Do you really believe that the AE were wearing a hat? That was their natural hair.  |
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Post by jethro on Sept 17, 2016 9:46:53 GMT -5
When I look at something such as a statue or a painting and they look like black people. I apply Occam's razor to the statue of Tut painted jet black. I don't believe they would have painted him black to describe his descent into the underworld. I understand that their art was symbolic. But with all the other evidence included. Especially now that we have his DNA. It's almost definte that they painted him black because he was black. There is no need to use abstract ideas when observing art. Take it as it is and move along. When I see a god painted blue. I say to myself. Osiris is blue. If it's got the head of a cat. Than Bastet is a cat and they worshipped animals which is a remnant of totemism. When the women are painted yellow however I say the men evidently prefered Asian or Khoisan women. Of course you can try reading into it like you would a David Lynch film but then again he is still alive so we can know the kind of the artist. But with the recent evidence on Tut I can say with certainty that the statues of him were painted like him. Isn't his family the first family to portray people as they really were by the way? At least that's what the Art Historians tell us. That Akhenaten, his father had artworks portrayed more realistically rather than ideally? |
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Post by jethro on Sept 17, 2016 9:49:48 GMT -5
When I look at something such as a statue or a painting and they look like black people. I apply Occam's razor to the statue of Tut painted jet black. I don't believe they would have painted him black to describe his descent into the underworld. I understand that their art was symbolic. But with all the other evidence included. Especially now that we have his DNA. It's almost definte that they painted him black because he was black. There is no need to use abstract ideas when observing art. Take it as it is and move along. When I see a god painted blue. I say to myself. Osiris is blue. If it's got the head of a cat. Than Bastet is a cat and they worshipped animals which is a remnant of totemism. When the women are painted yellow however I say the men evidently prefered Asian or Khoisan women. Of course you can try reading into it like you would a David Lynch film but then again he is still alive so we can know the kind of the artist. But with the recent evidence on Tut I can say with certainty that the statues of him were painted like him. Isn't his family the first family to portray people as they really were by the way? At least that's what the Art Historians tell us. That Akhenaten, his father had artworks portrayed more realistically rather than ideally? REAL QUEEN NEFERTITI: |
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Post by jethro on Sept 17, 2016 9:55:30 GMT -5
So if they keep showing the tombs to tourists the art will eventually fade? Thank God we have photography to preserve it for the historical record. It was interesting when I went into the tombs back in 01 it seemed as if they were painted the day before. It's funny but those statues of Tutankhamen that are painted black because they were found in an intact tomb where photography was quickly used to take pictures of it. They tried saying at the museum that he was painted black because he was descending into the underworld. I thought to myself "bull s h I t " he was painted black because he was black yo. It's obvious if you look in the creases of statues such as the one of Nefertiti that the black was scraped off or faded with time. Just look in the creases of their art and you can see the original color. KHOISAN NEVER EVER LEFT AFRICA ALL EUROPEAN ART WAS DONE BY THE CAUCASIAN CRO-MAGNON! THE VERY FIRST MODERN MAN!!!! ! KHOISAN CAVE PAINTINGS LOOK FCK ALL LIKE EUROPEAN PAINTINGS! |
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