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Post by MorolongDithabeng on Aug 11, 2014 5:58:20 GMT -5
The epistle of Paul to the Romans is tailored to demonstrate that Ancient Kemet/Egyptian religion was pagan, as such its error was transferred to the Greek and Roman religions. In essence he was telling the Romans that the father of their religion was polytheistic but it appears the name "Egypt" was omitted for some reason. The following is his reference New King James version
"For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who suppress the truth in unrighteousness, because what may be known of God is manifest in them, for God has shown it to them. For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even His eternal power and Godhead, so that they are without excuse, because, although they knew God, they did not glorify Him as God, nor were thankful, but became futile in their thoughts, and their foolish hearts were darkened. Professing to be wise, they became fools, and changed the glory of the incorruptible God into an image made like corruptible man(statues)—and birds(falcon, Ibis etc) and four-footed animals(Bull,crocodile etc) and creeping things (scarab beetle & snakes)." Romans 1 verse 18-25Therefore God also gave them up to uncleanness, in the lusts of their hearts, to dishonor their bodies among themselves, who exchanged the truth of God for the lie, and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever. Basic English version: "Because the knowledge of God may be seen in them, God having made it clear to them. For from the first making of the world, those things of God which the eye is unable to see, that is, his eternal power and existence, are fully made clear, he having given the knowledge of them through the things which he has made, so that men have no reason for wrongdoing: Because, having the knowledge of God, they did not give glory to God as God, and did not give praise, but their minds were full of foolish things, and their hearts, being without sense, were made dark. Seeming to be wise, they were in fact foolish, And by them the glory of the eternal God was changed and made into the image of man who is not eternal, and of birds, four-footed animals and creeping things"
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Post by MorolongDithabeng on Aug 11, 2014 10:22:04 GMT -5
Prophet Isaiah lived 700 yrs before the birth of Christ in 8th century BC. The Apostle Paul was born in Tarsus in AD 10, and died in Rome in AD 67. The prophet's prophecies are confirmed by what Paul wrote in his address to the Roman citizens. Isaiah 19:13-14"The princes of Zoan are become fools, the princes of Memphis are deceived; they have caused Egypt to go astray, who are the corner-stone of her tribes." "The Lord has sent among them a spirit of error: and by them Egypt is turned out of the right way in all her doings, as a man overcome by wine is uncertain in his steps." Isaiah 19:21"And the Lord will give the knowledge of himself to Egypt, and the Egyptians will give honour to the Lord in that day; they will give him worship with offerings and meal offerings, and will take an oath to the Lord and give effect to it. " Isaiah 19:24:
In that day Israel will be the third together with Egypt( 1st) and Assyria( 2nd), a blessing in the earth: Whom the LORD of hosts shall bless, saying, Blessed be Egypt my people, and Assyria the work of my hands, and Israel my inheritance. Contrary to what is commonly paraded by biblical scholars, there was a time when God was pleased with Mitzrayim (Egypt) and its people (Mitzrim) Isaiah 31:3Now the Egyptians are men, and not God; and their horses flesh, and not spirit. When the LORD shall stretch out his hand, both he that helps shall fall, and he that is helped shall fall down, and they all shall fail together.( This is what Paul gives as warning, "you follow their ways and you will suffer the same fate) Isaiah 45:14 The Lord says, The workmen of Egypt, and the traders of Ethiopia, and the tall Sabaeans, will come over the sea to you, and they will be yours; they will go after you; in chains they will come over: and they will go down on their faces before you, and will make prayer to you, saying, Truly, God is among you; and there is no other God. Isaiah 43:3 For I am the Lord your God, the Holy One of Israel( my inheritance), your saviour; I have given Egypt as a price for you, Ethiopia and Seba for you. ( Yet we wonder why the Wisdom and Science of Africa is possessed by strangers who we say "stole" it and also claim they built that 1st civilization. As a matter of fact it was not stolen but was given/awarded to "them" because it wasn't ours to begin with. My dear brothers and sisters, all wisdom and knowledge comes from God and he alone gives it to whoever pleases him and removes it from those who abuse it. The Black person is empty and void of this 1st love, yet there are those black academics who foolishly say in their hearts how wise they have become not knowing the error of their boastful saying.)
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Post by MorolongDithabeng on Aug 12, 2014 10:09:18 GMT -5
Note the following: in the old testament God calls Egypt his people and Israel his inheritance, now when did the Egyptians become the other? Isaiah 58:1 Make a loud cry, do not be quiet, let your voice be sounding like a horn, and make clear to my people their evil doings, and to the family of Jacob their sins. ....I will give you the heritage of Jacob It appears the book of Isaiah is about the Egyptians and the inheritance of Israel yet there are places where omission of the words Mitzrayim (Egypt) and its people (Mitzrim) occurred through the various translations. The prophecy further says: Isaiah 65: I have been ready to give an answer to those who did not make prayer to me; I have been offering myself to those who were not searching for me( God's Angels appear to Jacob) ; I said, Here am I, here am I, to a nation which gave no respect to my name. All day my hands have been stretched out to an uncontrolled people( Egyptians), who go in an evil way, after the purposes of their hearts; A people who make me angry every day, making offerings in gardens, and burning perfumes on bricks. Who are seated in the resting-places of the dead, and by night are in the secret places; who take pig's flesh for food, and have the liquid of disgusting things in their vessels. Verse 9: Do not send destruction on it( Egypt), for a blessing is in it: ...in order that I may not put an end to them all. And I will take a seed out of Jacob(Israel), and out of Judah(?) one who will have my mountains for a heritage: and the people I have taken to be mine will have it for themselves, and my servants will have their resting-place there. Isaiah 65:15-19 And your name( Jacob) will become a curse to my people( Egypt), and the Lord God will put you to death, and give his servants another name( Israel): So that he who is requesting a blessing will make use of the name of the true God ( God of Israel), and he who takes an oath will do so by the true God; because the past troubles are gone out of mind, and because they are covered from my eyes. For see, I am making a new heaven and a new earth: and the past things will be gone completely out of mind. But men will be glad and have joy for ever in what I am making; for I am making Jerusalem a delight, and her people a joy. And I will be glad over Jerusalem, and have joy in my people: and the voice of weeping will no longer be sounding in her, or the voice of grief.
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Post by MorolongDithabeng on Aug 13, 2014 10:06:19 GMT -5
In the Book of Isaiah for the most part " my people" initially referred to Mitzrayim (Egypt) and its people (Mitzrim) and "my inheritance"(heritage) or " my servants" to Israel. Romans 9:13-15 "As it is written, Jacob( Israel) have I loved, but Esau( Egypt) have I hated. What shall we say then? Is there unrighteousness with God? God forbid. For he said to Moses, I will have mercy on whom I will have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I will have compassion.(mercy shown on the seed of David) Romans 9:25-26 As he says in Hosea, They will be named my people who were not my people, and her(the 1st sister) will be loved who was not loved. And in the place where it was said to them, You are not my people, there they will be named the sons of the living God. Prophecies are in essence timeless foretelling of the Greater plan and are impossible to interpret using only one generation. We then find an odd translation in the Book of Hosea Hosea 2:15-18 And as in the day when she( Israel) came up out of the land of Egypt. It will be in that day,” says Yahweh,“That you will call me ‘my husband,’ and no longer call me ‘my master.’ For I will take away the names of the Baals out of her mouth, and they will no more be mentioned by their name. In that day I will make a covenant for them with the animals of the field, and with the birds of the sky,and with the creeping things of the ground. verse 23: And I will put her as seed in the earth, and I will have mercy on her to whom no mercy was given; and I will say to those who were not my people, You are my people, and they will say, My God(husband). Hosea confirms that Mitzrayim(Egypt) was a corrupted version of the covenant restored through Israel.Two are love and two are hate Let us fast forward to another foretelling that fits Mitzrayim(Egypt) in its description and what has been mentioned so far. Revelations of John 21:2 And I saw the holy town, new Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, like a bride(Nut ) made beautiful for her husband(Geb )....See, the Tent of God(Christ ) is with men, and he will make his living-place with them, and they will be his people, and God himself will be with them, and be their God. And he will put an end to all their weeping; and there will be no more death, or sorrow, or crying, or pain; for the first things have come to an end( City of Peace). Attachments:
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Post by MorolongDithabeng on Aug 13, 2014 11:18:52 GMT -5
The Pyramids were constructed using limestone blocks that was transported from nearby quarries. The Tura limestone used for the casing was quarried across the river. Limestone is a sedimentary rock composed largely of calcite and aragonite, which are different crystal forms of calcium carbonate (CaCO3).The stone crystal matrix is mostly quartz, these crystals follows an invisible design law (of nature) that makes it take the shape of Obelisk/pyramids www.hummingbirdminerals.com/mixedminerals10page2.htmlRevelation of John 21:18-20 "And the building of the wall of it was of (red)jasper: and the town was clear gold, clear as glass. The bases of the wall of the town had ornaments of all sorts of beautiful stones. The first base was jasper; the second, sapphire; the third, chalcedony; the fourth, emerald; The fifth, sardonyx; the sixth, sardius; the seventh, chrysolite; the eighth, beryl; the ninth, topaz; the tenth, chrysoprase; the eleventh, jacinth; the twelfth, amethyst.( variations of quartz)(we've also heard "scientists" talk of the possibility of silicon based life form) en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quartz
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Post by MorolongDithabeng on Aug 14, 2014 9:54:58 GMT -5
Revelation of John 21:6-7 I am the First and the Last, the start and the end. He who overcomes will have these things for his heritage; Isaiah 43:3 For I am the Lord your God, the Holy One of Israel(my servants), your saviour; I have given Egypt as a price(heritage) for you, Ethiopia and Seba for you. Mitzrayim (Egypt) is the inheritance of Jacob(a curse that ended the former thing Egypt), the inheritance of God is Israel and New Jerusalem is the inheritance of Israel. The Black person today replaces the former thing Egypt with the name Kemet ( Km-t) and as you know, the 't' is a feminine marker, giving us the breasted one who comes down from heaven Nut. She is depicted as black(midnight blue) adorned with stars 'Km' means 'black' which gives us Km-(Nu)t Revelation of John 21:2 And I saw the holy town, new Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, like a bride made beautiful for her husband. Egypt is the former and Keme(nu)t the latter. Old Mitzrayim is the former and New Jerusalem the latter Old and New tent meeting, and "the older shall serve the new (younger)" Isaiah 11:10 And in that day, the eyes of the nations will be turned to the root of Jesse which will be lifted up as the flag of the peoples; and his resting-place will be glory (yellow/gold). And in that day the hand of the Lord will be stretched out the second time to get back the rest of his people, from Assyria, and from Egypt(Mitzrayim ), and from Pathros, and from Cush, and from Elam, and from Shinar, and from Hamath, and from the sea-lands. Isaiah 11:12 And he will put up a flag as a sign to the nations, and he will get together those of Israel who had been sent away, and the wandering ones of Judah, from the four ends of the earth. Bob Marley's song: (Africa unite) ..How good and how pleasant it would be Before God and man, To see the unification of all Africans, As it's been said already let it be done, We are the children of the Rastaman We are the children of the (Higher) Lion Man Africa, Unite 'cause the children wanna come home Africa, Unite 'cause we're moving right out of Babylon And we're grooving to our father's land Read more at www.songlyrics.com/bob-marley/africa-unite-lyrics/#ypXHqW1tzDhUljfK.99From the Instruction of Ani "...choose what is good to say and keep evil words prisoner in your body." The Ra/Sun principle is to gather space-dust by its gravitational pull which forms planets. Man is in the image of Ra/Red and gathers food to sustain carnal form, every good that comes out is rewarded. Earth/flesh take its form after Ra/Sun and eats to sustain its form thus statues (God who was changed and made into the image of man who is not eternal, and of birds, four-footed animals and creeping things) returns to it and the evil works are kept prisoner in the earth becoming dust(chaos) once again. To overcome produce good, and there is only one who is Good, it is the father and as God said in Genesis "it is not good for man to be alone" a help meet is sent in the form of a feminine form. When the God principle is corrupted, the error of the aeons takes form, god of refusal Romans 1:26-32 For this reason God gave them up to evil passions, and their women were changing the natural use into one which is unnatural: And in the same way the men gave up the natural use of the woman and were burning in their desire for one another, men doing shame with men, and getting in their bodies the right reward of their evil-doing. And because they had not the mind to keep God in their knowledge, God gave them up to an evil mind, to do those things which are not right; Being full of all wrongdoing, evil, desire for the goods of others, hate, envy, putting to death, fighting, deceit, cruel ways, evil talk, and false statements about others; Hated by God, full of pride, without respect, full of loud talk, given to evil inventions, not honouring father or mother, Without knowledge, not true to their undertakings, unkind, having no mercy: Who, though they have knowledge of the law of God, that the fate of those who do these things is death, not only go on doing these things themselves, but give approval to those who do them.(Greeks & Romans) It is through this principle that we know the one called the Christ (seed) from God came down to earth. John 16:7 But what I am saying is true: my going is for your good: for if I do not go away, the Helper will not come to you; but if I go, I will send him to you. Jesus is a name so is Jacob but Isra-el is a title so is Emmanu-el and the Christ. Isaiah 65:15-19 And your name( Jacob) will become a curse to my people( Egypt), and the Lord God will put you to death, and give his servants another name( Israel): So that he who is requesting a blessing will make use of the name of the true God ( God of Israel), and he who takes an oath will do so by the true God; because the past troubles are gone out of mind, and because they are covered from my eyes. For see, I am making a new heaven and a new earth: and the past things will be gone completely out of mind. But men will be glad and have joy for ever in what I am making; for I am making Jerusalem a delight, and her people a joy. And I will be glad over Jerusalem, and have joy in my people: and the voice of weeping will no longer be sounding in her, or the voice of grief. A God principle does not happen on one generation only, If it is a God principle, it is the truth and as such, it will be mirrored/repeated throughout generations in various forms but the principle remains the same for he is the same and cannot be corrupted. This brings us to the principle of 'rest' Attachments:
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Post by MorolongDithabeng on Aug 14, 2014 18:25:22 GMT -5
Revelation of John 21:17 And he took the measure of its wall, one hundred and forty-four cubits, after the measure of a man, that is, of an angel. The principle of 'rest' Ezekiel 37:13 And you will be certain that I am the Lord by my opening the resting-places of your dead and making you come up out of your resting-places, O my people. Matthew 23:27 A curse is on you, scribes and Pharisees, false ones! for you are like the resting-places of the dead, which are made white,( the Great Pyramid was surfaced by white "casing stones") and seem beautiful on the outside, but inside are full of dead men's bones and of all unclean things. II Chronicles 16:9 For the eyes of the Lord go this way and that, through all the earth, letting it be seen that he is the strong support of those whose hearts are true to him. "behold, the glory of the God of Israel came from the way of the east:" Ra often was the representation of midday when the sun reached its peak at noon. "he rest at 12 midday ( the 12 gates) an remained there, and there was never night no more"(No moon or star) Revelation of John 21:23 And the city had no need of the sun, neither of the moon, to shine in it: for the glory of God did lighten it, and the Lamb is the light thereof. And the nations of them which are saved shall walk in the light of it: and the kings of the earth do bring their glory and honor into it. And the gates of it shall not be shut at all by day: for there shall be no night there. A solar barge ( resting-place of the dead)(also solar bark, solar boat, sun boat) is a mythological representation of the sun riding in a boat. Many early Egyptian goddesses/sun deities, as well as the gods Ra and Horus, are sometimes depicted as riding in a solar barge. In Egyptian myths of the afterlife, Ra rides in an underground channel ( secret place) from west to east every night so that he can rise in the east the next morning." Zechariah 2:13 Let all flesh be quiet and make no sound before the Lord: for he is awake and has come from his holy resting-place. Habakkuk 2:20 the Lord is in his holy Temple: let all the earth be quiet before him Mark 4:35-39 On that day, when evening had come, Jesus said to them, “Let us go across to the other side.” And leaving the crowd, they took him with them in the boat, just as he was. And other boats were with him. And a great windstorm arose, and the waves were breaking into the boat, so that the boat was already filling. But he was in the stern, asleep on the cushion. And they woke him and said to him, “ Master, do you not care that we are perishing?” And he awoke and rebuked the wind and said to the sea, “ Peace! Be still!” And the wind ceased, and there was a great calm. Ra travelled on two solar boats called the Mandjet (the Boat of Millions of Years), or morning boat and the Mesektet, or evening boat.( other boats were with him)
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Post by forty2tribes on Aug 15, 2014 18:23:44 GMT -5
when are you going to get to the 7 commandments from the 41 laws?
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Post by MorolongDithabeng on Aug 17, 2014 5:12:45 GMT -5
when are you going to get to the 7 commandments from the 41 laws? Is there anything in particular? I thought it was 8 that corresponded from 42 declarations
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Post by MorolongDithabeng on Aug 22, 2014 9:58:26 GMT -5
The equation for rest according to the Bible is 6:1 which means 6 days of creation and 1 of rest, the Sabbath. It is also written God subjected creation to duality meaning for the 6 days he created 6 nights as well.This translates to the 12 gateways of masculine & feminine reflecting each gateway in pairs of 3s multiplied by 4 with their lord being the 13th, the monotheistic principle. Some of the Gnostic description of the 1 resting, is the he who sees himself within himself and as such the 12 gateways are his reflection. Rest is a reflection of the created, the restorer of movement. The iconography of the last supper can be explain by the Kabbalistic book of creation Part 10 paragraph 5 "Three opposite three, with a decree deciding between them. Twelve stand in war: Three who love, three who hate, three who give life, and three who kill. The disciples are in pairs of 3s www.kabbalah.info/eng/content/view/frame/3899?/eng/content/view/full/3899&mainAnother significant similarity is the posture of Jesus with open arms creating a pyramid shape and its mirror form created by the gap between him and the "lady" disciple. This might seem far-fetched to an untrained eye but the gap (invisible pyramid) together with the window pillar, creates something that looks like an obelisk shape similar to the one projected on bottom image of Akhenaten's stool. Akhenaten is the one who is said to have ushered a 1 god belief system, besides him depicted sitting above the 12 gates ways he also kisses one of the 3 siblings. I Samuel 10:1Then Samuel took the bottle of oil, and put the oil on his head and gave him a kiss and said, Is not the Lord with the holy oil making you ruler over Israel, his people? I Thessalonians 5:26 "Give all the brothers a holy kiss." Matthew 26:47-48 "Judas, one of the twelve, came, and with him a great multitude with swords and staves, from the chief priests and elders of the people. Now he that betrayed him gave them a sign, saying, Whomsoever I shall kiss, that same is he: hold him fast." It is written in the Gnostic gospel of Philip: "For it is by a kiss that the perfect conceive and give birth. For this reason we also kiss one another. We receive conception from the grace which is in one another." It further says: There were three who always walked with the Lord: Mary, his mother, and her sister, and Magdalene, the one who was called his companion. His sister and his mother and his companion were each a Mary. There are 3 siblings depicted with Akhenaten and his wife, this suggest there must be an iconographic representation of the number 4 on the mural. This is the ankh, the 4 winds of life, the Sapitwa agnesmizere80.wordpress.com/tag/sapitwa-healers/
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Post by zarahan on Aug 23, 2014 12:30:30 GMT -5
Note the following: in the old testament God calls Egypt his people and Israel his inheritance, now when did the Egyptians become the other? Isaiah 58:1
Make a loud cry, do not be quiet, let your voice be sounding like a horn, and make clear to my people their evil doings, and to the family of Jacob their sins. ....I will give you the heritage of Jacob It appears the book of Isaiah is about the Egyptians and the inheritance of Israel yet there are places where omission of the words Mitzrayim (Egypt) and its people (Mitzrim) happened through the various translations.Do you realize that the very Bible passage you are quoting debunks your claim? Look above- Isaiah is referring to Israel or Jacob, NOT Egypt- it says "family of Jacob" and "heritage of Jacob". How then do you claim this refers to Egypt, when the very text you quote flatly contradicts this? The epistle of Paul to the Romans is tailored to demonstrate that Ancient Kemet/Egyptian religion was pagan, as such its error was transferred to the Greek and Roman religions.. Not really. Anything non-Christian was considered pagan by Paul and in modern times another Christian, Haile Selassie. All "pagan" means is a non-believer. And actually Paul has a lot harsher things to say about Jews than pagans. "Pagan" would include all the white religions- Odin, Thor, Pennarun, all the Celtic, Eastern, Greek Roman, Germanic religions etc etc before Christianity. No one is exempt. In essence he was telling the Romans that the father of their religion was polytheistic but it appears the name "Egypt" was omitted for some reason. The following is his reference
New King James version
"For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who suppress the truth in unrighteousness, because what may be known of God is manifest in them, for God has shown it to them. For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even His eternal power and Godhead, so that they are without excuse, because, although they knew God, they did not glorify Him as God, nor were thankful, but became futile in their thoughts, and their foolish hearts were darkened. Professing to be wise, they became fools, and changed the glory of the incorruptible God into an image made like corruptible man(statues)—and birds(falcon, Ibis etc) and four-footed animals(Bull,crocodile etc) and creeping things (scarab beetle & snakes)." Romans 1 verse 18-25
Therefore God also gave them up to uncleanness, in the lusts of their hearts, to dishonor their bodies among themselves, who exchanged the truth of God for the lie, and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever.
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"Because the knowledge of God may be seen in them, God having made it clear to them. For from the first making of the world, those things of God which the eye is unable to see, that is, his eternal power and existence, are fully made clear, he having given the knowledge of them through the things which he has made, so that men have no reason for wrongdoing: Because, having the knowledge of God, they did not give glory to God as God, and did not give praise, but their minds were full of foolish things, and their hearts, being without sense, were made dark. Seeming to be wise, they were in fact foolish, And by them the glory of the eternal God was changed and made into the image of man who is not eternal, and of birds, four-footed animals and creeping things" The name Egypt is not omitted. There is nothing to "omit". Romans 1 lays out the argument that ALL men are sinners who do not know the true God. The text you quote shows this clearly. The wrath of God is against "all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men,". Read that again ALL of MEN- there is nothing to "omit". Egyptians are just another set of men as well as the white religions of Greece and Rome. No one has to accept the argument of course, but ALL men are in view. Chapter 2 begins "THEREFORE THOU ARE INEXCUSABLE , O MAN" - again a reference to ALL men. No one is "omitted." You do not appear to understand the Bible you are quoting. Isaiah 19:13-14 "The princes of Zoan are become fools, the princes of Memphis are deceived; they have caused Egypt to go astray, who are the corner-stone of her tribes." "The Lord has sent among them a spirit of error: and by them Egypt is turned out of the right way in all her doings, as a man overcome by wine is uncertain in his steps."
Isaiah 19:21 "And the Lord will give the knowledge of himself to Egypt, and the Egyptians will give honour to the Lord in that day; they will give him worship with offerings and meal offerings, and will take an oath to the Lord and give effect to it. " Isaiah 19:24:
In that day Israel will be the third together with Egypt(1st) and Assyria(2nd), a blessing in the earth: Whom the LORD of hosts shall bless, saying, Blessed be Egypt my people, and Assyria the work of my hands, and Israel my inheritance.
Contrary to what is commonly paraded by biblical scholars, there was a time when God was pleased with Mitzrayim (Egypt) and its people (Mitzrim) WHere you quote Isaiah is referring to a FUTURE DAY when Egypt (Mizraim) will be blessed, along with Assyria and others. But none of the above erases or cancels out the harsh things said about Egypt elsewhere in the Bible- as in Exodus. Harsh things are also said about other nations too by the way. And do you again realize that the very text you are quoting is undermining some of what you are claiming? Up above it says: " The princes of Zoan are become fools, the princes of Memphis are deceived; they have caused Egypt to go astray, who are the corner-stone of her tribes." "The Lord has sent among them a spirit of error: and by them Egypt is turned out of the right way.." ^^Right there Isaiah is criticizing Egypt for being in error, deceived. Indeed he says God has sent among them a "spirit of error." The quoted text you yourself bring forward, undermines your argument. Isaiah 45:14 The Lord says, The workmen of Egypt, and the traders of Ethiopia, and the tall Sabaeans, will come over the sea to you, and they will be yours; they will go after you; in chains they will come over: and they will go down on their faces before you, and will make prayer to you, saying, Truly, God is among you; and there is no other God. (This is the hard truth but it is the fate of the Black person that unfolded through the ages) You leave out the full context in verses 15 and 16. Isaiah is saying that Egypt, and other peoples of that region will be forced to bow down before Israel, in a spiritual sense - quote: "saying , God is among you; and there is no other God." And it does not refer to any doom and gloom for black folk. It deals with Egypt, Ethiopia, Sabeans (yemen?) etc in a FUTURE day to come, in a spiritual sense. All these nations will eventually acknowledge the one true God says the prophet. There is no suggestion bout any past "black doom" or anything like that in that verse. And black slavery is a minor part of the black experience in history. Others too were enslaved including the white Slavs of Eastern Europe, Germanics of Western Europe, and white Mediterraneans under the Moors. Yet we wonder why the Wisdom and Science of Africa is possessed by strangers who we say "stole" it and also claim they built that 1st civilization. As a matter of fact it was not stolen but was given/awarded to "them" because it wasn't ours to begin with. My dear brothers and sisters, all wisdom and knowledge comes from God and he alone gives it to whoever pleases him and removes it from those who abuse it. The Black person is empty and void of this 1st love, yet there are those black academics who foolishly say in their hearts how wise they have become not knowing the error of their boastful saying.) The wisdom and science of Africa was not "awarded" to others by God. When you say this you are beginning to sound like one of those white racists. God blessed Africa with science and wisdom, as he did other men- even steven. Kemet was the first to pioneer many things including writing systems, and helped pioneer the alphabet used worldwide today. God also blessed Kemet with certain other features, like the Nile River, a wondrous blessing amid a harsh, desert land. What you say is true, God gives it to whoever it pleases, and whoever abuses it- indeed. But do not make the mistake of falling into the white racist trap that God didn't give Africa anything. Africa got no special favors OVER AND ABOVE anybody else- everyone got pluses and minuses to work with in their lands. Even the Nile has its limits being unnavigable for huge stretches- but on the balance, certain things were given for blessing. Yes men have abused this blessing with violence, oppression and corruption we all agree. In the Book of Isaiah for the most part "my people" initially referred to Mitzrayim (Egypt) and its people (Mitzrim) and "my inheritance"(heritage) or "my servants" to Israel. This is shaky and the very text you quote flatly contradicts your claim. Let's just take one example: ".. I will be glad over Jerusalem, and have joy in my people" This clearly refers to Israel, not Mizraim (Egypt) You appear unclear and do not understand the text you are quoting which time and time again contradicts what you are claiming. ---------------------------------------------------------------- Isaiah 11 holds that in a FUTURE day all nations will be blessed, Jews will only come it to it as they cease stiff-necked, hard-headed ways per many other prophets. Of course many will disagree with the prophets. But if what they say is true, then it appears that indeed, Egypt will come into blessing in a day to come, via that Messiah the unfaithful Jews rejected - Christ. 11:1 And there shall come forth a shoot out of the stock of Jesse, and a branch out of his roots shall be fruitful; 11:2 and the Spirit of Jehovah shall rest upon him, the spirit of wisdom and understanding, the spirit of counsel and might, the spirit of knowledge and of the fear of Jehovah. 11:3 And his delight will be in the fear of Jehovah; and he shall not judge after the sight of his eyes, neither reprove after the hearing of his ears; 11:4 but with righteousness shall he judge the poor, and reprove with equity the meek of the earth: and he shall smite the earth with the rod of his mouth, and with the breath of his lips shall he slay the wicked. 11:5 And righteousness shall be the girdle of his reins, and faithfulness the girdle of his loins. 11:6 The wolf also shall dwell with the lamb, and the leopard shall lie down with the kid, and the calf and the young lion and the fatted beast together, and a little child shall lead them. 11:7 And the cow and the she-bear shall feed; their young ones shall lie down together; and the lion shall eat straw like the ox. 11:8 And the sucking child shall play on the hole of the adder, and the weaned child shall put forth its hand to the viper's den. 11:9 They shall not hurt nor destroy in all my holy mountain; for the earth shall be full of the knowledge of Jehovah, as the waters cover the sea. 11:10 And in that day there shall be a root of Jesse, standing as a banner of the peoples: the nations shall seek it; and his resting-place shall be glory. 11:11 And it shall come to pass in that day, that the Lord shall set his hand again the second time to acquire the remnant of his people which shall be left, from Assyria, and from Egypt, and from Pathros, and from Cush, and from Elam, and from Shinar, and from Hamath, and from the islands of the sea. 11:12 And he shall lift up a banner to the nations, and shall assemble the outcasts of Israel, and gather together the dispersed of Judah from the four corners of the earth. ISAIAH 32 32:1 Behold, a king shall reign in righteousness, and princes shall rule in judgment. 32:2 And a man shall be as a hiding-place from the wind, and a covert from the storm; as brooks of water in a dry place, as the shadow of a great rock in a thirsty land. 32:3 And the eyes of them that see shall not be dim, and the ears of them that hear shall hearken; 32:4 and the heart of the rash shall understand knowledge, and the tongue of the stammerers shall be ready to speak plainly.
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Post by MorolongDithabeng on Aug 25, 2014 6:54:53 GMT -5
Thank you for pointing out my madness, You are right, there are contradictions. As much as you enjoy being 'king of the castle' to all subjects even in those you barely understand, this one unfortunately is beyond your league. It is more like throwing bones and expect a commoner's intepretation of the to be accurate. From the "contradictions" you just advanced, it is clear you completely missed it, the parallels do not make sense. I value this and will try tailor future post more sane. To eliminate any further contradictions a good point to start will be the example of 'king of the castle' What do we call human trait that is reflected by animal behavior? I know of Anthropomorphism but in this case Zoomorphism seem to summarize this very well. This is one of the devil's traits from II Thessalonians 2:3: "the son of perdition; Who opposes and exalts himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as god sits in the temple of God, showing himself that he is God." From the Gnostic untitled text on the origin of the world: "Now the color of the tree of life is like the sun. And its branches are beautiful. Its leaves are like those of the cypress." Thanks once again, your demand for logic is some of the reason this forum is successful. Attachments:
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Post by MorolongDithabeng on Aug 26, 2014 10:01:59 GMT -5
The lens of the eye is made up of transparent proteins called crystallins. These are packed so tightly together and in such a particular way, that they behave like crystals, allowing light to pass through the lens of the eye so that we can see. www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/01/080129201238.htmIf you place a mirror(heaven) on top of the pyramid the light gateway remains open or remains closed so that its dual nature is dissolved. Matthew 16:18-19 reads as follows; "and on this rock will my church be based, and the doors of hell will not overcome it. I will give to you the keys of the kingdom of heaven: and whatever is fixed by you on earth will be fixed in heaven: and whatever you make free on earth will be made free in heaven." Revelation of John 21:23 And the gates of it shall not be shut at all by day: for there shall be no night there. Revelation of John 3:7 And to the angel of the church in Philadelphia say: These things says he who is holy, he who is true, he who has the key of David, opening the door so that it may be shut by no one, and shutting it so that it may be open to no one. Isaiah 22:22 And I will give the key of the family of David into his care; and what he keeps open will be shut by no one, and what he keeps shut no one will make open. The following shows that Egypt was the image of things to come and a common understanding in the believe of non-sleep or non dualism (eternal life) Revelations of John 21:2 ....See, the Tent of God(Christ/Good) is with men, and he will make his living-place with them, and they will be his people, and God himself will be with them, and be their God. Matthew 16:18 And I say to you that you are Peter, and on this rock will my church be based, II Peter 1:14 And it seems right to me, as long as I am in this tent of flesh, to keep your minds awake by working on your memory; II Corinthians 5:1 For we are conscious that if this our tent of flesh is taken down, we have a building from God, a house not made with hands, eternal, in heaven. Hebrews 9:11 But now Christ has come as the high priest of the good things of the future, through this greater and better Tent, not made with hands, that is to say, not of this world, Hebrews 9:8 The Holy Spirit witnessing by this that the way into the holy place had not at that time been made open, while the first Tent was still in being; Attachments:
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Post by zarahan on Aug 26, 2014 19:29:53 GMT -5
EGYPTIAN RELIGION MORE RELATED TO NORTHEAST AFRICAN RELIGIONS NOT THE "MIDDLE EAST" OR PALESTINE
"A large number of gods go back to prehistoric times. The images of a cow and star goddess (Hathor), the falcon (Horus), and the human-shaped figures of the fertility god (Min) can be traced back to that period. Some rites, such as the "running of the Apil-bull," the "hoeing of the ground," and other fertility and hunting rites (e.g., the hippopotamus hunt) presumably date from early times.. Connections with the religions in southwest Asia cannot be traced with certainty."
"It is doubtful whether Osiris can be regarded as equal to Tammuz or Adonis, or whether Hathor is related to the "Great Mother." There are closer relations with northeast African religions. The numerous animal cults (especially bovine cults and panther gods) and details of ritual dresses (animal tails, masks, grass aprons, etc) probably are of African origin. The kinship in particular shows some African elements, such as the king as the head ritualist (i.e., medicine man), the limitations and renewal of the reign (jubilees, regicide), and the position of the king's mother (a matriarchal element). Some of them can be found among the Ethiopians in Napata and Meroe, others among the Prenilotic tribes (Shilluk)." (Encyclopedia Britannica 1984 ed. Macropedia Article, Vol 6: "Egyptian Religion" , pg 506-508)
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Post by MorolongDithabeng on Aug 27, 2014 4:45:07 GMT -5
There is no doubt about the Egyptian belief systems and its ties with the whole of African religions, this is a well anchored fact. The point to this parallels is to show how this belief system went beyond the African continent and influenced many other religions even though downplayed. If you go through the Church history especially on what transpired at the Council of Nicaea, you will realise that the initial 73 Canonical Books that make-up what we know as the Bible were put together/compiled by men. One of the basis for their selection was uniformity but not without prejudice. 'Gnostic' Gospels like those of Judas, Phillip, Bartholomew and many others were left out because they did not fit into the established theme and/or their authenticity was questionable. The Nag Hammadi Library is a collection of thirteen ancient codices containing over fifty texts, discovered in upper Egypt in 1945 gnosis.org/naghamm/nhl.html See also the 'Nicene Creed' and the 'Role of Constantine' en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Council_of_Nicaea www.islamtomorrow.com/bible/NicaeaCouncil325.htmen.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nag_Hammadi_library
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