Eyewitness descriptions of Nile Valley peoples

[Charlie Bass]

Keep in mind these are the peoples who are biologically closest to Ancient Egyptians.



Racism and anti-racism in world perspective By Benjamin P. Bowser pgs.4-6

[sttigray]

Nice I liked that

[zarahan]

^^ yeah.. great excerpt. Curiously a number of more "advanced" Europeans centuries later seemed to think the opposite of the Greeks and Romans and advanced a stereotypical monolithic model supposedly representing "true" blacks. Could this be part of the racist "Aryan model" Bernal fingers as developing later on in the European mind? Frank Snowden also notes the lack of modern racist feeling among Greeks and Romans towards blacks, although both nations, like most others expressed preference for their own institutions, practices and cultures. But this according to Snowden was standard tribal/national pride not a racism that pronounced blacks inferior or evil just because they were black. Various Greeks hated or opposed Persians because they were a national enemy and competitor, not because they were "Asian". Such racism is the creation of more "advanced" people closer to our own time, which they try to project back into antiquity, like the bogus notion of "racial" wars between Egypt and Nubia, two of the peoples most closely related in the Nile valley. No wonder Keita had to point out in the 90s that few Europeans consider wars between Britain and France "racial" but when it comes to people like Egyptians and Nubians, then a hypocritical double standard appears.

Diop if course pointed out the hypocrisy way back n his "Evolution of the Negro World" in Presence Africaine (1964),

"But it is only the most gratuitous theory that considers the Dinka, the Nouer and the Masai, among others, to be Caucasoids. What if an African ethnologist were to persist in recognizing as white-only the blond, blue-eyed Scandinavians, and systematically refused membership to the remaining Europeans, and Mediterraneans in particular—the French, Italians, Greek, Spanish, and Portuguese? Just as the inhabitants of Scandinavia and the Mediterranean countries must be considered as two extreme poles of the same anthropological reality, so should the Negroes of East and West Africa be considered as the two extremes in the reality of the Negro world. To say that a Shillouk, a Dinka, or a Nouer is a Caucasoid is for an African as devoid of sense and scientific interest as would be, to a European, an attitude that maintained that a Greek or a Latin were not of the same race.."

[sttigray]

I hate thought that myself, and what makes your point even more interesting is the fact that in America. Italians, Irish, Greeks, and even Poles were not considered White, and denied that membership until later. It is a back and forth dynamic, which the white supremacist will use for their own ends. On one hand they have excepted Greeks and Romans as WHites in order to Coop their cultural achievements while attempting to divide Africa piecemeal. Zarahan your viewpoint is always eye opening.