Post by djoser-xyyman on Jan 13, 2017 9:23:47 GMT -5
As I said before careful how you say things. There are readers here trying to gain knowledge. Why do you say E-M2 is rarer in East Africa? It(E-M2) is far from rare in East Africa. Remember the YDNA Haplogroups of Ancient Egyptians tested so far were E-M2. In other words the Royals/Pharaohs of Ancient Egypt carried the "sub-saharan" African lineage. It is not rare but very common in East Africa.
Try to stay away from opinions without data. Without data it is just an opinion and is annoying. The quality of this forum has been maintained over the years. And one of the main reason is "quality" posting so it is not just a "chatter" site.
Post by djoser-xyyman on Jan 13, 2017 9:31:30 GMT -5
As I made clear and provided data in the "Bantu migration thread", there is no data suggesting that E-M2 originated in West Africa and migrated to East Africa. But there is recent data suggesting the reverse, that E-M2 may have a RECENT Eastern African origins and migrated West replacing older population even R1b-V88 possible. See my thread on the supposed Bantu migration. I don't expect to find aDNA is E-M2 in West Africa prior to about 3000bc because according to RECENT release E-M2 is only about 6-5000year old!!!
Post by djoser-xyyman on Jan 18, 2017 9:38:38 GMT -5
You said a lot there. But I am still unclear what your point is? E-M2 is "ultimately" of East African origin? I said so didn't I? I also said E-M2 is only about 5000yo which negates the supposed Bantu Expansion.
West Africans carry about >80% E-M2? I never denied that. So what are you arguing?
I said E-M2 is "not" RARE is East Africa. And you provided data supporting my very point. Quote " reaches around 30% elsewhere in the Nile Valley"
If my math is correct 30% is NOT rare. And if my English is correct "less" does not mean "rare". Right?
I said that there was NEVER a Bantu Expansion from West Africa to East Africa as the "pop culture" theorize. There is NO genetic evidence of that. None! E-M2 mutations in East Africa compared to West Africa is NOT closely related. And E-M2 in East Africa is OLDER than that found in West Africa. Which means what? Answer: East Africans E-M2 did NOT originate in West Africa.
Labeling a disease "Benin" does not mean it originated in Benin. Good God man! It most likely means it was either FIRST discovered in Benin or it has HIGHEST frequency in Benin. I am not sure about the history of naming that disease. Google it!
Without data you are just another person with an opinion - Deming