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Post by nebsen on May 13, 2018 19:12:07 GMT -5
I don't know how many have heard about the controversy of the Brooklyn Museum hiring a white women to curate it's African artifacts , but it has caught my attention when it first appread about a month ago. well, it seems like the" People" are not going to take this sitting down !
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Post by mellomusings on May 15, 2018 13:46:20 GMT -5
I don't know how many have heard about the controversy of the Brooklyn Museum hiring a white women to curate it's African artifacts , but it has caught my attention when it first appread about a month ago. well, it seems like the" People" are not going to take this sitting down ! Actually I heard about it, and to be honest not really sure what to make of it. I guess the outrage is understandable I suppose. But who else is willing to step up and take the position? What's your official position on the situation?
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Post by nebsen on May 15, 2018 16:12:28 GMT -5
I don't know how many have heard about the controversy of the Brooklyn Museum hiring a white women to curate it's African artifacts , but it has caught my attention when it first appread about a month ago. well, it seems like the" People" are not going to take this sitting down ! Actually I heard about it, and to be honest not really sure what to make of it. I guess the outrage is understandable I suppose. But who else is willing to step up and take the position? What's your official position on the situation? Actually , a great many people & organizations in Brooklyn. I thought I had posted the video but it seems i was unable to post. Will try to find a clip that I can finally y post than i believe you might think different.
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Post by Tukuler al~Takruri on May 15, 2018 16:35:50 GMT -5
This is a tough one.
From liberation struggle perspective Afrikan people must have jurisdiction over Afrikana.
From civil rights angled toward equal rights, any qualified candidate is as eligible without regard to ethnicity.
I would not protest a white getting the position. I would choose and rally round a qualified black and why their skills, talent, and experience make them best for the job colour aside.
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Post by mellomusings on May 15, 2018 18:39:34 GMT -5
Actually I heard about it, and to be honest not really sure what to make of it. I guess the outrage is understandable I suppose. But who else is willing to step up and take the position? What's your official position on the situation? Actually , a great many people & organizations in Brooklyn. I thought I had posted the video but it seems i was unable to post. Will try to find a clip that I can finally y post than i believe you might think different. I agree with al-Takuri it is tough to figure out where to stand on the issue. If she's qualified and is genuinely interested in the subject then I suppose that isn't an issue. But I'm sure there were plenty of other people as you mentioned qualified for the job as well. I really don't know what to make of the situation.
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Post by nebsen on May 15, 2018 22:52:19 GMT -5
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Post by anansi on May 16, 2018 5:36:36 GMT -5
I'm reasonable certain that they should've gone with a person of the diaspora or from the continent, use the barber shop rules, we generally do not trust other folks to cut our hair,telling our story should be the same, who is the curator for the Asian exhibit, then again Sally Ann Ashton, is doing a stand up job in the Manchester Museum , then again Brooklyn is being gentrified so that's visually painful, BTW that institution was an all time favorite, along with the library a half o block away.
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Post by nebsen on May 16, 2018 18:14:10 GMT -5
finally found it ! They seemed to wait for days before posting this video ,don't know why ?? Had to do a number of searches using key words than bingo, when Nebsen is on the prowl watch out LOL !
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Post by zarahan on May 16, 2018 18:51:32 GMT -5
I sympathize with the call for a black curator- and I think the hiring echelons could have found plenty of qualified black curators with expertise in Africa, (yes- qualified- equal or better, and with expertise on Africa) not "cuz dey black", in view of the subject matter, and heavy use of the institution by the local black community. Doesn't look as if they did the search necessary to find those persons. I can't believe this area is lacking good black candidates- we ain't talking specialized nuclear reactor engineers here. Time and time again I have seen this scenario- how white folk can "hook up" a job for their own folk by various methods such as limited candidate pools, quick closing application windows, etc etc. The white Irish and other white ethnics are famous for such things to freeze out black folk..
That being said, I don't grudge the white candidate the job, and if the museum continues to provide good displays and service true to a good presentation of African art and culture, then power to them. But the incident should be a warning to black folk to start ponying up money, resources and time to develop our own institutions in depth. We got rappers dropping 100K on stripper parties, with mostly white strippers, but they are nowhere to be seen when substantial black institutions of art, education and culture need support.
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Post by nebsen on May 17, 2018 14:34:47 GMT -5
I sympathize with the call for a black curator- and I think the hiring echelons could have found plenty of qualified black curators with expertise in Africa, (yes- qualified- equal or better, and with expertise on Africa) not "cuz dey black", in view of the subject matter, and heavy use of the institution by the local black community. Doesn't look as if they did the search necessary to find those persons. I can't believe this area is lacking good black candidates- we ain't talking specialized nuclear reactor engineers here. Time and time again I have seen this scenario- how white folk can "hook up" a job for their own folk by various methods such as limited candidate pools, quick closing application windows, etc etc. The white Irish and other white ethnics are famous for such things to freeze out black folk.. That being said, I don't grudge the white candidate the job, and if the museum continues to provide good displays and service true to a good presentation of African art and culture, then power to them. But the incident should be a warning to black folk to start ponying up money, resources and time to develop our own institutions in depth. We got rappers dropping 100K on stripper parties, with mostly white strippers, but they are nowhere to be seen when substantial black institutions of art, education and culture need support. In the video they wanted it to be clear this was not personal to the women that they did hire ,but to the systematic racism of institutions like the Brooklyn museum & the racist practiceses in most museums across this country ( if you have not seen the video it is worth checking out) Looking for pop culture artist to do the heavy lifting in this area I doubt is going to happen J-Z is from Brooklyn have not heard anything from him yet about this issue, most of them I believe, have not shown a interest in areas such as this. But what the Brooklyn community is doing around this issue is groundbreaking, & could serve as a template for others, they are forging new ground !!
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Post by mellomusings on May 17, 2018 23:11:31 GMT -5
I sympathize with the call for a black curator- and I think the hiring echelons could have found plenty of qualified black curators with expertise in Africa, (yes- qualified- equal or better, and with expertise on Africa) not "cuz dey black", in view of the subject matter, and heavy use of the institution by the local black community. Doesn't look as if they did the search necessary to find those persons. I can't believe this area is lacking good black candidates- we ain't talking specialized nuclear reactor engineers here. Time and time again I have seen this scenario- how white folk can "hook up" a job for their own folk by various methods such as limited candidate pools, quick closing application windows, etc etc. The white Irish and other white ethnics are famous for such things to freeze out black folk.. That being said, I don't grudge the white candidate the job, and if the museum continues to provide good displays and service true to a good presentation of African art and culture, then power to them. But the incident should be a warning to black folk to start ponying up money, resources and time to develop our own institutions in depth. We got rappers dropping 100K on stripper parties, with mostly white strippers, but they are nowhere to be seen when substantial black institutions of art, education and culture need support. In the video they wanted it to be clear this was not personal to the women that they did hire ,but to the systematic racism of institutions like the Brooklyn museum & the racist practiceses in most museums across this country ( if you have not seen the video it is worth checking out) Looking for pop culture artist to do the heavy lifting in this area I doubt is going to happen J-Z is from Brooklyn have not heard anything from him yet about this issue, most of them I believe, have not shown a interest in areas such as this. But what the Brooklyn community is doing around this issue is groundbreaking, & could serve as a template for others, they are forging new ground !! Most Rap/Hip-Hop artists these days that "speak truth to power", are poverty pimps as some say (save a few artists) in my opinion. They may say something that really resonates with the people but at the end of the day they know who controls their purse strings.
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