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Post by nebsen on Apr 1, 2021 20:58:12 GMT -5
This is a history of the 1st Rainbow Coalition & Fred Hampton in Chicago.
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Post by Tukuler al~Takruri on Apr 1, 2021 23:53:26 GMT -5
Overlooked or buried facts again brought to light.
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Post by zarahan on Apr 4, 2021 11:35:05 GMT -5
This is a history of the 1st Rainbow Coalition & Fred Hampton in Chicago. Buried but brought to light. You can see why Fred Hampton was killed. He was a serious organizer with contacts across a full spectrum of gangs, activists etc. He wasn't a theatrical guy like Huey Newton, who sometimes relied heavily on the white left. Fred was more grassroots and had serious potential to unite elements on the street level in a common front. In a way he was more of a threat, so thus was targeted. |
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Post by anansi on Apr 5, 2021 6:04:14 GMT -5
Yeah I peeped it this wknd much thanx Nebsen..whatever one thinks about the Panthers back in the day ,they were intersectionlist, they recognized no man or no ppl is an island, dont mean giving up independence for your kit and kin ,but position an environment were everyone wins.
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Post by asante on Apr 5, 2021 13:12:46 GMT -5
The "Rainbow Coalition" shit failed, because the people belonging to the other colors (including the Asians) were snitches. The Black Panthers tried something like that as well, and the same thing happened. Black people do not have ANY allies. Cowardly Blacks who are scared to stand on their own (because they do not know our history) are the ones who support "teaming up" with "allies".
Teaming up with "allies" is why the riots last Summer went from fighting anti Black racism (in Louisville and Minnesota) to an LGBT and minorities issue. These other groups are noting without our momentum to get the ball rolling. Once it's rolling them they like to take control, and the primary beneificiaries of the struggle (i.e. white women, white LGBT, Asians, Hispanics etc).
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Post by Tukuler al~Takruri on Apr 5, 2021 15:17:33 GMT -5
Good history to learn since obscured by Jackson's
whom I remember but was too young for the original.
Josephine Baker had a Rainbow Tribe (no advocacy).
Y'all hip to
Not Fucking Around Coalition right?
'bout fucking time
Addio Zio Toms
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Post by Tukuler al~Takruri on Apr 5, 2021 15:38:12 GMT -5
Yeah Lookit the 'Asians' in NYC protest marching like blx over blx randomly effing some up. And no, I do not condome random acts of violence against the Yellow Race. Saying don't call us Asian don't call us Chinese call us American all the while identifying themselves as Asian Chinese etc not Asian American or Chinese American or Yellow American etc. As a black people originating from Africa Never forget 'Dirty Korean'. Eff 'em till they confess their wrongs against the Black Community and offer redress like % of profit pumped back into the community fueling the yellow economy from hair nails whatnot. My house is my house it ain't everybody's house We let houseguests act like the homeowner. The chiefs all benefit off the back of their tribesmen I'm talkin' 'bout right here in the US of A Same pattern since the Portugueza started trading. Is it in the genes for our leaders to sell us out for their own comfort? The "Rainbow Coalition" shit failed, because the people belonging to the other colors (including the Asians) were snitches. The Black Panthers tried something like that as well, and the same thing happened. Black people do not have ANY allies. Cowardly Blacks who are scared to stand on their own (because they do not know our history) are the ones who support "teaming up" with "allies". Teaming up with "allies" is why the riots last Summer went from fighting anti Black racism (in Louisville and Minnesota) to an LGBT and minorities issue. These other groups are noting without our momentum to get the ball rolling. Once it's rolling them they like to take control, and the primary beneificiaries of the struggle (i.e. white women, white LGBT, Asians, Hispanics etc). I disagree with Dr John Henrick Clarke on many things but wholeheartedly agree on this. You lookin for allies? Check the mirror. If you don't see one there fuhgeddabouddit. |
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Post by anansi on Apr 5, 2021 15:41:20 GMT -5
The "Rainbow Coalition" shit failed, because the people belonging to the other colors (including the Asians) were snitches. The Black Panthers tried something like that as well, and the same thing happened. Black people do not have ANY allies. Cowardly Blacks who are scared to stand on their own (because they do not know our history) are the ones who support "teaming up" with "allies". Teaming up with "allies" is why the riots last Summer went from fighting anti Black racism (in Louisville and Minnesota) to an LGBT and minorities issue. These other groups are noting without our momentum to get the ball rolling. Once it's rolling them they like to take control, and the primary beneificiaries of the struggle (i.e. white women, white LGBT, Asians, Hispanics etc). Well we can blame it on a color, but remember Cointelpro is a mfkr..turning one against the other regardless of a color, tried tested and true even within the house of the Black hue..who killed the ancestor Malcolm X and leave Marcus Garvey out to dry ,who hunted down Paul Bogle and why..would you rather team with Candice Owens or John Brown..don't answer that. Intersectionality maybe a bust, but some of the fault may lay within us. |
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Post by Tukuler al~Takruri on Apr 5, 2021 16:07:07 GMT -5
B4 a fbi
B4 a cointelpro
etc
Bag-o-wiyah
First he trail together. with Marcus Garvey
Me? Never cared for pHuey.
He had the charisma
but
he was so socially backward.
Focus should be on the
Original Black Panthers
and the Black Panthers
not on druggy showboats
frontin nigga dreams
as revolutionary.
Cointelpro Jr can't work w/o
blacks selling out their own
for profit. Same 'African Chief'
syndrome or in Blk Amer terms
Eff the people or the race
I got mine you get yours.
So when we a go mek em bun?
Bag-o-wiyah
Catch-a-fiyah
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Post by nebsen on Apr 5, 2021 20:49:22 GMT -5
Yeah I peeped it this wknd much thanx Nebsen..whatever one thinks about the Panthers back in the day ,they were intersectionlist, they recognized no man or no ppl is an island, dont mean giving up independence for your kit and kin ,but position an environment were everyone wins. I agree, Rainbow Coalition was a prototype , it worked for Harold Washington in Chicago , I went back to Chicago just to be a part of the city at the time..I've never seen Chicago as it was than. What's coming up for America in the next couple of years , I believe will force all kinds of folks to form coalitions. For this will be a time like we've never seen before... You used the term Interseconality , it has become the buzz word for the past couple of years coined by a Black Women Kimberle Crenshaw, might be a means of practical strategy for coalition building for survival... |
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Post by asante on Apr 6, 2021 14:06:10 GMT -5
Good history to learn since obscured by Jackson's whom I remember but was too young for the original. Josephine Baker had a Rainbow Tribe (no advocacy). Y'all hip to Not Fucking Around Coalition right? 'bout fucking time Addio Zio Toms He's an agent.
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Post by Tukuler al~Takruri on Apr 6, 2021 17:44:45 GMT -5
Eww the AGENT word
I sced
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Post by anansi on Apr 7, 2021 5:52:33 GMT -5
How quickly the accusations and claims to scullfkry is made, maybe he's agent , maybe not, Marcus Garvey folks met with the klan, so did Malcom X under the NOI, Ice Cube got dragged for meeting with Orange Klan father, only decades of street creds saved him from being cancelled, but then again so did Kanyeeee!!! with his triflin ass, tho he did get some kinda prison reform..so I've been told.However it's painfully clear that we are easily rattled, how quickly did we split into ADOS vs FBA , like I said earlier cointelpro is a Mfkr..and this time it maybe set on auto.
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Post by zarahan on Apr 23, 2021 17:11:24 GMT -5
Good history to learn since obscured by Jackson's whom I remember but was too young for the original. Josephine Baker had a Rainbow Tribe (no advocacy). Y'all hip to Not Fucking Around Coalition right? 'bout fucking time Addio Zio Toms He's an agent.
This word "agent" keeps getting thrown around like cheap confetti. When talkers re pressed for details they either have no specifics or go silent. So in what way is Jay an "agent"? Define your term and give some specifics. But we already know the response.. |
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Post by zarahan on Apr 23, 2021 19:00:21 GMT -5
Yeah I peeped it this wknd much thanx Nebsen..whatever one thinks about the Panthers back in the day ,they were intersectionlist, they recognized no man or no ppl is an island, dont mean giving up independence for your kit and kin ,but position an environment were everyone wins. I agree, Rainbow Coalition was a prototype , it worked for Harold Washington in Chicago , I went back to Chicago just to be a part of the city at the time..I've never seen Chicago as it was than. What's coming up for America in the next couple of years , I believe will force all kinds of folks to form coalitions. For this will be a time like we've never seen before... You used the term Interseconality , it has become the buzz word for the past couple of years coined by a Black Women Kimberle Crenshaw, might be a means of practical strategy for coalition building for survival... The tragedy of the black mayors is that they took over just as the big industrial cities where many blacks lived were de-industrializing, and shipping jobs overseas. They also came to power when white suburbanization was underway, when various governments subsidized massive highway and road projects to suburbia that cut up and blasted through many once solid black neighborhoods. Some of these were deliberately routed thru black areas in twists and turns, instead of cheaper, straighter routes that would have taken them through white areas. The black areas were cynically sacrificed. Likewise toxic dumps, and slum housing were cynically disproportionately routed to the black areas, further depressing them. The factory closeouts and white "flight" especially caused big drops in tax money coming in that could keep up with inflation. On top of that some of the white power brokers that ran these cities began a pattern of disinvestment less local funding, less parks, lesser funded schools, less fire service, lesser trained police etc. In addition when the blacks sought to get their share of local government jobs, or local contracts, just like the Irish, Italians and the rest did, they were fought tooth-and-nail by entrenched mostly white bureaucracies like the police and municipal unions. This put a damper on black gains in these areas despite much hysteria about "affirmative action." All was not white racism to be sure. Heavier crime post-60s, and rioting in the late 1960s, and crumbling black family structures also played a part in the chain of negativity in some of these cities. The mayors thus had a tough hand to open with, and many produced mixed results. Still, Harold Washington did leave a record of accomplishments behind, and his victories did get blacks a bigger share of the pie, on several fronts. |
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