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Post by nebsen on Jun 18, 2021 19:48:38 GMT -5
It's been a few days now that the film In The Heights has been in a controversy over the eraser of Afro-Latino's from the ground breaking musical by Lin Manuel Miranda who wrote the musical for the stage ..which has now been made into a film which he is the producer..He also wrote the Tony award winning play Hamilton with a very racially mixed cast ..Lin Manuel Miranda is Puerto Rician..So for him to not include the Afro-Latino from any real major roles, did not set well with the Afro-Latino & African American community..The community of the H Heights is a New York community that has a huge Dominican population which is composed of Afro-latino's...This is a very important discussion I feel that needs to be had..& the film has opened up the flood gates in having this discussion
Dr. Louis Henry Gates did a 4 part documentary called Black In Latin America 20011 ,which got deep into the history of the Black African presence In Latin America
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Post by anansi on Jul 2, 2021 3:55:12 GMT -5
The Latino communities as well as the Arab speaking communities desperately need to have this internal conversation, in this they are easy behind the Afro Anglo speakers and the Afro Franco speakers as well.
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Post by nebsen on Jul 2, 2021 12:37:21 GMT -5
The Latino communities as well as the Arab speaking communities desperately need to have this internal conversation, in this they are easy behind the Afro Anglo speakers and the Afro Franco speakers as well. Anansi, why is that the case..? With Arabs is it they still have not admitted their role in slavery of Africans before the Europeans, which I have read that was even more brutal than the Europeans in many respects ,even though it allowed for some moving up the ranks..? For a while now I have been thinking about the Spanish & English colonialism , is it by proxy that we are doomed each group( the colonized ) in having a clash of the old empires today thru us living now ;Latino's Spain & Africans decedents England & Spain..? ?
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Post by Tukuler al~Takruri on Jul 3, 2021 8:59:17 GMT -5
The fact that abd is the common word for an African black in the Arabic speaking world is admission enough of the Muslim slave trade involving Africa's blacks.
Inner Africans never willingly migrated north or east in numbers enough to set up their own quarters of a city. So very few communities of blacks exist in Dar Islam.
Individual blacks have made their way in hi-profile places in Saudi where 19th C Euro traveleres noted black skinned raisin headed ones held authority. One such Euro's life was saved from murder by mob when a black intervened using his authority to quell the rabble.
The early 90s was last I checked on Afr blx w/hi positions on the peninsula. I imagine Saudi still smacks Israel down when it comes to blx of Inner African descent in top tiered business positions and government office posts.
Meanwhile blx in movies and series in places like Lebanon and Egypt are stuck in humiliating roles and blx are at times played by non-blx in blackface.
The 1001 Nights tales are full of black caricature stereotypes no different than the centuries later Euro racial hierarchy anthropology and American slavery sociology.
Orphaned Teimani children were 'adopted' and made Muslim. I know a guy of that background in a Yemini bodega. This man expressed how ytes are the most beautiful people. I saw him stop work on two in progress orders to fulfill that of a yte who juzt walked into the deli.
Attitudes like this make for the strife in Deetroit and Chi between Blacks and Yeminis. The most anti-black country on Earth is Mauritania. Maur society norms are from its Yemen originating conquerors.
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Post by Tukuler al~Takruri on Jul 3, 2021 9:10:15 GMT -5
Apparently blx in the Americas hemisphere are all transplanted Africans divided only by the language of their slavers.
This language divide is highly operative as identifiers impeding solidarity of a grand people who all made the same trip on the same ship, disembarking onto Spanish, Portuguese, English, French, Dutch, and Dane colonial slave ports.
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Post by anansi on Jul 4, 2021 23:31:36 GMT -5
Couldn't have given a better ans, one thing I might add generally speaking off course, both those lingo/culture communities, there is this lie or pretense of the dominant culture of equality but generally lacking in equity that seemed to sap the fight out of the blacks of those societies.
In Anglo speaking societies, there is generally no confusion where one stands, socially or otherwise, so it forces us to confront sht head-on and force changes , a thing Black identified Brazilians are coming to terms with.
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Post by nebsen on Jul 11, 2021 2:30:26 GMT -5
A in-depth discussion....
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