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Post by anansi on Jul 8, 2010 23:44:32 GMT -5
Dick Gregory
JFK
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Post by tomhanks on Sept 20, 2010 9:09:58 GMT -5
What I want to know anansi is, what are your views about these secret societies?
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Post by anansi on Sept 20, 2010 9:31:07 GMT -5
What I want to know anansi is, what are your views about these secret societies? That they are prone to nepotism and corruption at best, at worst they are sinister and their motives ultimately unknown perhaps world domination in an evil sort of way, but there was a time in Europe when it was prudent to have secret societies,to retain or gain knowledge of a scientific nature band by the church punishable by death by burning. A healthy open society has no need for secret societies.
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Post by nebsen on Sept 22, 2010 16:58:19 GMT -5
Anansi, I think you paint with a very broad brush! I understand you feeling in terms of today, but what about thru-out Africa & Asia where you have always had so called secret societies? You have always had cults of initiation that were secret to the non member based on age, sex, & family ties. How about ancient Kemit ? Like the rest of Africa, initiation & so called secret cults were an intergral part of the spiritual & religious working & traditions of this civilization. If you were born in Africa at one time & even today, you were born into a family cult with a totem & clan.... with family practices & secrets too be upheld, this is also true of China.Both civilization lasted for thousands of years; so this practice must have served them well for longevity . We might scoff at these practicies today as being primitive & full of superstitious, but in a strange way, these cults, & secrets societies, were the glue & cohesion that held these societies & civilization together for eons ! My personal feeling are that when the west tried to adept this ancient model, it was not organic too the west, & therefore became corrupt with capitalism as it's life blood.
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Post by anansi on Sept 22, 2010 23:07:44 GMT -5
Anansi, I think you paint with a very broad brush! I understand you feeling in terms of today, but what about thru-out Africa & Asia where you have always had so called secret societies? You have always had cults of initiation that were secret to the non member based on age, sex, & family ties. How about ancient Kemit ? Like the rest of Africa, initiation & so called secret cults were an intergral part of the spiritual & religious working & traditions of this civilization. If you were born in Africa at one time & even today, you were born into a family cult with a totem & clan.... with family practices & secrets too be upheld, this is also true of China.Both civilization lasted for thousands of years; so this practice must have served them well for longevity . We might scoff at these practicies today as being primitive & full of superstitious, but in a strange way, these cults, & secrets societies, were the glue & cohesion that held these societies & civilization together for eons ! My personal feeling are that when the west tried to adept this ancient model, it was not organic too the west, & therefore became corrupt with capitalism as it's life blood. I may have to agree somewhat because I was basing my thoughts on what happens in the West, but still secrecy still has the potential to breed corruption in any society so I tend to be weary.
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