Study your own Genome - Genetic testing Discount

[beyoku]

www.23andme.com is giving a discount with a friends and family promo code:

B84YAG

For $99 plus $5 a month for mandatory 12 months "Personal Genome Service" plus shipping.

Its not a bad deal for $159 plus shipping for a Complete Edition (499.00)

There may or may not be a similar deal on "DNA DAY" which is around April 15th of next year. That is when I got my kit for 99.99, without the mandatory 5 per month additional subscription. I still think it is a good price and is something I would not pay 500.00 for. Could be a good gift.?

[beyoku]

Deal may be already dead.

[beyoku]

SHould be back up at 10PST

[djoser-xyyman]

Got my kit(s) yesterday. Great price for what you are getting. Hope it is not a scam ie print out of some pre-determined results and send to AA people etc. Maybe I should label myself as a white European just see if a law-suit is waiting tp happen. Ha! Ha! Ha!

[beyoku]

Naw the results are real. If you want to see some screenshoots of my results send me a PM.

[djoser-xyyman]

Results seem authentic. I am a bit confused I am E1b1a and L2a1a. But according to the "relative finder" , I have two 5th cousins one is R1b1b2a1a2f/ U2e1 and the other is E1b1a7a3a/L2b1a3. Seems to be two different populations/lineage!!

BTW: on the health risk. . .anyone seen Gataca?
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[djoser-xyyman]

The whole program seem discriminatory. eg what is "% European"? How can they say I have x% European. They have the typical AA having 33% European. What are these European percentages? What they are calling European may be African.

And what is OO(east) Africa?

But as I always say. We take the facts/results and do our own interpretation!!

[djoser-xyyman]

After discovering I am L2a1a, I decided to do some reading and came across this... Seems my Africans have been occupying Southern Europe for a long long time. Old news?

As I have been stressing almost 4yrs now. Iberia was NOT a Refugium during the LGM. West and Sahara Africans crossed into Europe through Iberia and Medit Islands.


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from: www.nature.com/ejhg/journal/v16/n9/full/ejhg200870a.html



To sum up, it is striking that gene pools of different Slavonic populations include African-specific mtDNA lineages, some of which have their most related counterparts in Europe instead of Africa (such as haplotypes belonging to subclusters L1b1a and L2a1a). It is noteworthy that according to the results of phylogeographic studies, almost all African mtDNA lineages detected in the Slavs seem to be of West African origin. Only the haplogroup L2a is widespread within all regions of Africa, whereas haplogroups L1b, L3b1 and L3d are specific to West Africa.1 In Northwest Africa, haplogroup M1 has been found at high frequencies in Algerians, and at lower frequency in Tunisians, Mozabites and Morroccan Arabs, showing a slight east–west cline.34 Haplogroup M1 is rare in Iberia, but the presence of North African M1 mtDNA in the Basques remains that pre-date the Muslim invasion (eighth century) points to the prehistoric arrival of M1 lineages in Iberia.38 Therefore, since most of the African lineages found in eastern European populations are present in West Africa, their migration to eastern Europe likely took them through Iberia.

In this respect, a possible explanation for presence of African mtDNA lineages in gene pools of eastern Europeans is that the Franco-Cantabrian refuge area of southwestern Europe might be the source of late glacial expansions leading to dispersal of some Northwest African mtDNAs in central and northeastern parts of Europe. It has been previously shown that ancient Iberian carriers of West Eurasian haplogroups H1, H3, V, U5b1b and U8a have participated in demographic reexpansion to repopulate Central Europe in the last interglacial periods (10 000–15 000 years ago).39, 40, 41 According to the data obtained in our study, it seems probable that Northwest Africans also contributed their mtDNA lineages to ancient Iberians, and further, via their gene pool migrations, to Europeans. Meanwhile, the strongest argument in favor of the hypothesis of the prehistoric introgression of African mtDNA lineages into the European gene pool would come from a finding of the appropriately dated European-specific subclades of the African haplogroups. However, the only two lineages that appear to represent European-specific subclades are L1b1a and L2a1a, but the lower boundary of about 9000 years for the potential introgression of L1b1a is not a strong argument for the presence of this lineage in the Franco-Cantabrian refuge area. Coalescence time estimate of 10 280±5140 years for European-specific subclade L2a1a is by a margin consistent with the post-Last Glacial Maximum expansion scenario. One should note, however, that absence of this subclade among Africans does not mean absence of this lineage in Africa in general due to relatively small sample size of African L2a genomes completely sequenced to date.
Therefore, the present data do not allow us to infer exactly when the African mtDNA lineages were introduced into gene pool of eastern Europeans. Both prehistoric and more recent gene flows (for instance, such as the potential Jewish L2a1 contribution42) might have led to African mtDNA lineages admixture into Slavonic gene pools. More extensive studies of African populations based on complete mtDNA sequencing should provide more precise information about the genetic relationships between mitochondrial gene pools of Africans and Europeans.

[beyoku]

About relatives and ancestry painting. You will have relatives that are all over the place.

Exmaple 1 :

I am E1b1a8, you are E1b1a7a3a, If I have a Brother that gets with your Sister and has a baby That son will be E1b1a8. He would still be related to you though your blood relationship to your sister.

Exmaple 2 :

You are E1b1a7a3a, as is your father. If your mother was Sudanese and her father and brothers carried B2a1a that lineages would be lost through her because she only passes maternal DNA but those people would still be your cousins and uncles through blood relationship with your mother.

Example 3:

You have an Aunt that marries a white man carrying R1b1b2a1a2f. They have a son. That Son carrying R1b1b2a1a2f will have a relationship to you because you all would have the same Grandmother. That would be your blood cousin.

Extrapolate this over a few hundred years, added in with the variable of White men raping black women and when all your cousins are totaled up you will have lineages from all over the place. African Americans are also a combination of many different Ethnic groups from all over the place.

As far as ancestry painting, its not perfect, but with the same 3 examples if we add up all these peoples ancestry, toss in an occasional European or Indian this is what it comes down to. Another thing to keep in mind is that their algorithm confuses African ancestry from Asian and European at times. Its not perfect. Some of the %'s of "European" and "Asian" can and are in fact African ancestry that doesnt fit neatly into the ONE sample that they have - YORUBA.

Send me an invite my username is Beyoku.

[beyoku]

Sale is back.
Free kit with 1 Year subscription at 9.oo a month.
1 day only.

[djoser-xyyman]

The report from 23andme reminds of Gattaca. With the Health risk and all. That "L2a White guy" thread running wild. I am L2a1a and was confused since some studies have L2a1a being European. When I posted in the thread I got some good responses. T!