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Post by djoser-xyyman on Mar 9, 2018 15:03:08 GMT -5
Here is white European woman with mtDNA L2a carrying close to 60% EUROPEAN ancestry. You can’t get more African than L2a…right? Lol! SMH
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Post by djoser-xyyman on Mar 9, 2018 11:13:09 GMT -5
It is at the top of the chart. Using Google will pull it up.
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Post by djoser-xyyman on Mar 9, 2018 9:52:33 GMT -5
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Post by djoser-xyyman on Mar 9, 2018 9:50:00 GMT -5
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Post by djoser-xyyman on Mar 5, 2018 17:30:35 GMT -5
Red = North West Africa, Yellow North East Africa
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Post by djoser-xyyman on Mar 5, 2018 17:29:25 GMT -5
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Post by djoser-xyyman on Mar 5, 2018 16:52:17 GMT -5
For the record and from Wiki.
----------------- Quote: U5b arose between 19,000 and 26,000 years ago[32] and has polymorphisms in 150 7768 14182 ( + U5 polymorphisms). Found among Siwa Berbers of the Siwa Oasis.[33] U5b1 arose between 11,000 and 20,000 years ago[34] and has polymorphisms in 5656 ( + U5b polymorphisms). U5b1a has polymorphisms in 5656 15097, 16189 and has lost its polymorphism in 7028 (backmutation) ( + U5b1 polymorphisms). U5b1b: has been found in Saami of Scandinavia, Finnish and the Berbers of North Africa, which were found to share an extremely young branch, aged merely ∼9,000 years. U5b1b was also found in Fulbe and Papel people in Guinea-Bissau and Yakuts people of northeastern Siberia.[35][36] It arose around 11000 years ago and has polymorphisms in 12618 16189 ( + U5b1 polymorphisms). U5b1c has polymorphisms in 5656 15191, 16189, 16311 ( + U5b1 polymorphisms) and arose about 13,000 years ago U5b1d has polymorphisms in 5437 5656 and has lost its polymorphism in 16192 (backmutation) ( + U5b1 polymorphism
U5 is rarer in South Caucasus (3.5%), Iran (3%), Turkey (3%), Syria, Lebanon, Iraq and Egypt (all around 1.5%). It is only found at trace frequencies (<1%) in Jordan and the Arabian peninsula. In North Africa, U5 peaks in Morocco (4%), followed by Libya (3.5%), Tunisia and Algeria (both 2%).
). "The Complex and Diversified Mitochondrial Gene Pool of Berber Populations" - C. Coudray; A. Olivieri;
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As I said. We as brothas need to take a deep understanding of DNA. This is where the lies are being told not….get involved
1. So the U5b underived, the ancestral form is found in Africans Siwa 2. U5b1b is found in African Fulbe and Guinea Bissau. Amazingly common in distant populations like Yokuts, Finnish and Papel of Guinea-Bissau.
If the ancestral form of U5b and the major sub-clade U5b1a are BOTH found in Africans. My money is Djehutynahkt(U5b2b5) is an indigenous African. La Brana (U5b2c1 of La Brana). U5b2c1 less than 8,000 years ago.[43] Found in a Carthage individual from Tunisia
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Post by djoser-xyyman on Mar 5, 2018 11:17:16 GMT -5
Quote “MtDNA haplotypes recently obtained from ancient human remains from sub-Saharan Africa belong only to haplogroup L subgroups [65,88].” Nice catch Mike. “Thank you for posting something worth thinking about panafrica88 – on your first try no less!” lol! Witty as ever.
Try to make like mtDNA L is the ONLY African haplogroup. Nice to see you recognized the players. David Reich being the number culprit. Mr “Off with tier heads and unto their women” Steppe overlord.
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Post by djoser-xyyman on Mar 5, 2018 11:09:17 GMT -5
Biological Sexing of a 4000-Year-Old Egyptian Mummy Head to Assess the Potential of Nuclear DNA Recovery from the Most Damaged and Limited Forensic Specimens - Odile Loreille 1 , David Reich 250km South of CairoMitochondrial Haplotype The mtGenome profile independently obtained from the tooth by the FBI and HMS laboratories were identical and can be found in Table S2. The haplotype (deposited in GenBank under accession number MG736653) belongs to mitochondrial DNA lineage U5b2b5, but the specific sequence has not been previously reported in the ***35,942 mtGenomes**** stored in the NCBI GenBank database (as of October 2017). The sequence closest to the mummy’s belongs to a contemporary individual from Lebanon (KT779192 [67]); however, the two haplotypes still differ at five positions, three of them in the control region (CR). A comparison between the mummy CR and the 26,127 CR sequences from the EMPOP database produced no match. To better understand the mtDNA lineage of the mummy in the context of known Egyptian mtDNA diversity, the mummy haplogroup was compared to the mtDNA haplogroup distribution of 668 Egyptians from various modern populations [68–73]. The dominant haplogroups among this dataset were haplogroup T (11.98%) and L3 (11.23%; Table S3). Out of the 64 individuals who belonged to haplogroup U, seven belonged to *****haplogroup U5 (1.05%)******, and three (0.5%) belonged to one of the U5b subgroups (U5b1c; U5b1d1a; U5b2a5).The Djehutynakht sequence was also compared to available ancient human DNA sequences (Table S4). Not surprisingly, no direct matches to the Djehutynakht sequence have been reported.However, related U5b2b sequences have been observed in ancient human remains from Europe, and a haplogroup U5b2c1 haplotype was recently discovered in 2000-year-old remains from Phoenicia [67]. When only the mtDNA sequences recovered from ancient Egyptian human remains are considered, the Djehutynakht sequence most closely resembles a U5a lineage from sample JK2903, a 2000-year-old skeleton from Abusir el-Meleq --------------------- Xyyman comment Very Interesting paper. Since Reich steered this study we will expect a lot of “Eurasian” this and “Eurasian” that . But we know what is called Eurasian autosomal DNA originated Africa and has confirmed to be in DEEEEEP Sub-Saharan Africa (Malawi) about 8000 years ago with Hora individuals and other ancient sub-saharan African !!!!! Even Mota. Eurasian DNA is found through-out sub-saharan Africa because it is NOT of Eurasian/or European origin. Looking at this mummy I am not sure if he is anything but a modern horner thick lips and all. I am sure the Forensic artistic impression will have him look like….(xxxxx)insert a googled picture of your choosing. Lol! But I am not into picture spamming. But nevertheless I assume the results is authentic because it was performed by two independent labs. What is fascinating this lineage is indeed found in the “Western” Europe hunter gatherers. But it also found in North Africa and the Sahel amongst African Fulanis. What is even more interesting is that I did not know the Egyptians carry such a high frequency if the “underived” version of mtDNA U5*, 1.05%. This is not found in Europe as far as I know. The underived. Now correct me U5 can split into U5a and U5b. Again this is clear evidence of the bifurcation taking place in Africa near or in the Sahara. What is also interesting is this specific sub-group is NOT found amongst Europeans 26,127 + 35,942 = 62069 Europeans and the “Lebanese” sample is off by 5 mutations. Of course African DNA was not included and why should it be? After all Eurasian AIM was NOT found in DEEEEEP sub-saharan Africa 8000years ago.(Insert sarcasm). When his STR profile comes out I would surprise if he is NOT sub-saharan African ……………….just like the Amarnas.
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Post by djoser-xyyman on Feb 12, 2018 16:07:58 GMT -5
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Post by djoser-xyyman on Feb 9, 2018 11:14:53 GMT -5
Cheddar man - the 10000year old European.
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Post by djoser-xyyman on Feb 8, 2018 8:13:46 GMT -5
YES! About 2000BC North Africans started to lighten. Prior to 2000BC North Africans were black. Same with the Levant. Quote from Frege et al 2017: “IAM(early Neolithic North Africans) people do ***NOT*** possess any of the European SNPs associated with light pigmentation, and most likely had dark(black) skin and eyes. IAM samples present ancestral alleles for pigmentation-associated variants present in SLC24A5 (rs1426654), SLC45A2 (rs16891982) and OCA2 (rs16891982 and 12913832) genes. On the other hand, KEB individuals exhibit ***some*** European- derived alleles that predispose individuals to lighter skin and eye colour, including those on genes SLC24A5 (rs1426654) and OCA2 (rs16891982) (Supplementary Note 11).” Read more: egyptsearchreloaded.proboards.com/thread/2542/black-4000bc-north-africans#ixzz50yvZcnAe- Read more: egyptsearchreloaded.proboards.com/thread/2542/black-4000bc-north-africans#ixzz56WQZzECtHas there been any ancient north African skin pigmentation studies?
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Post by djoser-xyyman on Feb 7, 2018 13:49:36 GMT -5
Can you scientifically source some of these outrageous claims such as...." Modern White Europeans are recent Central Asian and Siberian migrants and invaders and immigrants combined with the depigmented original settlers of Northern Europe"?
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Post by djoser-xyyman on Feb 7, 2018 10:53:42 GMT -5
Nice find Brada. You would of thought I wrote the piece. Lol!
The only thing I take exception to is they suggest a "middle Eastern" origin of this black man. That is a lie. Again they are trying to distance themselves from Africa. It is geographically improbable for him to be from the "Middle East". He is African/North African. They affirm, as I, for some reason Europeans remained black until the Neolithics arrived. Within the last 5000years.
Quote: "The discovery shows that the genes for lighter skin became widespread in European populations far later than originally thought – and that skin colour was not always a proxy for geographic origin in the way it is often seen to be today." "The results pointed to a Middle Eastern origin for Cheddar Man, suggesting that his ancestors would have left Africa,"
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Post by djoser-xyyman on Feb 7, 2018 10:38:51 GMT -5
Hey man. The chicken coming home to roost. They data has consistently supported my point of view. They are now admitting it. There is no race. Europeans are depigmented Africans.
Now, I need to get my hands on the sudy.
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