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Post by thamm1 on Mar 28, 2016 10:17:51 GMT -5
Dr. S.O.Y. Keita tells you white skinned or Mediterranean looking people originated in North Africa. youtu.be/qErhFiCvyKE
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Post by thamm1 on Mar 28, 2016 9:02:06 GMT -5
This is about truth not boredom. It's serious business to claim someone else's heritage.
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Post by thamm1 on Mar 28, 2016 3:52:10 GMT -5
You can't prove the information I posted wrong.
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Post by thamm1 on Mar 27, 2016 21:20:32 GMT -5
If you want more truths on Egypt and North Africa join "Archaeology & Prehistoric & Ancient Wonders" group on Facebook
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Post by thamm1 on Mar 27, 2016 21:16:04 GMT -5
Here is the kickers ladies and gentlemen the Cushites aka Nubians are genetically related to North Africans. E1b1b1 peoples not Bantu so what we have here are a bunch of west Africans with a racial identity crisis who can't be bothered with science or the like because the filthy white man's science is all a lie?
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Post by thamm1 on Mar 27, 2016 21:13:02 GMT -5
I just referenced above multiple sources all of which are published. The genetic data isn't going to change. Nor is the fact Egypt is in North Africa let alone Egyptians are thus North Africans. North Africans are not SSAs or black they range frim olive to deep reddish brown as they always have. The Lybians and Egytians come from the same genetic ancestors. Even with the soread if Islam this has not offset the original genetic groups infact haplogroup J aka Arab is minimal overall.
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Post by thamm1 on Mar 27, 2016 21:11:38 GMT -5
Egyptians were multi-racial and all evidence points to a primarily North African origin which is where Egypt is located.
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Post by thamm1 on Mar 27, 2016 21:10:42 GMT -5
The Delta was called Tameh'et, one interpretation of which is 'the lotus land', just as pictured by its hieroglyph of three lotus flowers rising from a circle (the sign for 'city'). In relation to Meh', a mention must be made of the Seven Wise Ones of the goddess Meh'-urt, who, in the beginning of time, came from water at the feet of Nu or Nun, and who, in very early times, resided over the “weighing of words” in the Hall of Meh'-urt and thus rightly identified with Libyan Maat and Neith. This simple fact was known to many scholars and Egyptologists, like Sir Alan Gardiner who has noted that the name of the Libyan tribe Temeh'w means “Lower Egypt” as well as the “Delta”, whence mh's “the crown of Lower Egypt”. The name was also mentioned as Henet-Temehu, the princess daughter of Thenet-Hep, the wife of Ahmose I, which further illustrates the Libyan element in the Egyptian dynasties, as we shall see below.
The ancient Egyptian Timhy (Tymhy) Stone of Wawat, found in one of the Egyptian lists of royal gifts, may indicate that the stones were of a particular type purveyed to the Egyptian by the Temehu. G. W. Murray ('The Road to Chephren's Quarries') relates that the Temehu Libyans were employed in the labour gangs at the quarries; while other sources affirmed that the Temehu were famous for being skilled stone workers and that the monuments built of polygonal masonry in Cyrenaica were the work of the Temehu people whom often referred to as “the Westerners” ('those who dwell west of the Nile').
The Libyan struggle to free the taken land of Neith is pre-dynastic in nature, and let us make no mistake that their recent pact with the maritime bandits, who came to plunder Egypt as others had done before and after, was no more than another tactic in their long war against the armies of the conquering Pharaohs. There was never such thing as Libyan Invasion (or invasions); they only appear so if they were mentioned in isolation, by the enemy, of course.
To be fairer to the truth, from the extant preserved material one can safely ascertain the Pharaohs to have been the invaders of the region, who, as told by their own history, forcibly unified Libyan Lower Egypt and Nubian Upper Egypt into what is known as Egypt: the House of [Libyan] Ptah. This was the subject of several studies including the one presented at The Symposium On "Libya Antiqua" , held in Paris between the 16th and the 18th of January 1984, and titled: The Tehenu In The Egyptian Records. The paper, written by A.H.S. El-Mosallamy and prepared at the request of the Unesco, told us nothing we do not already know, but nonetheless it was a recent summary of the basic facts put forward in the last century by Petrie, Breasted, Bates, Galassi, Maspero, Borchardt and many others whom history had practically forgotten, and was largely drawn from the ancient records preserved by Eratosthenes, Manetho, Plutarch, Plato, Herodotus, Diodorus and the ancient Egyptian records, as those of the pyramid papyri of Berber Unas (the god who swallowed all the gods).
The pre-dynastic existence of the Temehu and the Tehenu is ascertained from several facts, the most important of which is the Palermo Stone, the oldest document in the world, which preserves a long list of pre-Dynastic Libyan kings & queens of Lower Egypt before its invasion by the Pharaohs. The Delta city of Sais was the centre of the worship of the Libyan Goddess Neith, and most scholars generally agree that the inhabitants of Sais were mostly of Libyan Berber origin. Other Libyan Delta cults included those of the Libyan Cat-Goddess Bast at Bubastis, and Osiris & Isis at Buziris, who went on to dominate the Egyptian and Roman pantheons, and even survive to the present day in Europe as the secret cults of Isis & Osiris. It is therefore generally concluded that the Berber Tehenu tribes were the natives of the Egyptian Delta long before the menace of Menes, who forcibly unified Egypt and invaded the Tehenu territories in the north and the Temehu's and Nubian's in the south about 3100 BC (or 3400 BC according to other sources).
Hence Neith's Temple in the Delta (at Sais) bore the name of "House of the king of Lower Egypt", and the Egyptian "uraeus" serpent was deduced, from a scene of four Libyans in Sahure's temple at Abusir, to have been descended from an early Libyan king of the Delta. In addition to the Delta, the Tehenu of Lower Egypt were also the inhabitant of the Fayyum and the other oases of the region. In fact, these Berber oases were not invaded by the Pharaohs until the time of the New Empire, and were not totally colonised by the Pharaohs until the time of Ramses III, against whom the Libyans became known for their attacks on Egypt. Breasted asserts that these oases dwellers, from which the Egyptians of Hatshepsut extracted much tribute, were none other than the Libyan Tehenu of the Delta. The Temehu's territories, however, began immediately south of the Tehenu's and extended all the way down to Middle Nubia – an area where Oric Bates, during his short life, conducted an extensive study of its cemeteries and came to conclude that the Nubians and the Libyans were more related than previously thought, and thus the Temehu Berbers were also known to archaeologists as "the C-Group of Nubia". Even today, the Arabs of modern Egypt call the Nubians "Barabera".
Then we have the Egyptian pre-dynastic records such as the inscriptions found in Neith's temples, showing the usual Libyan signs and Neith's tattoos as well as the names of queens and princesses, which usually contained the element Net or Nit; Narmer's ivory cylinder commemorating his so called victory over the Libyans; the pre-dynastic Kerki knife bearing similar representations of pre-dynastic Libyans as those of the later Egyptians; and, of course, the name " Tehenu " itself, found on King Scorpion's statue (ca. 3300 BC), from which respected Egyptologists convincingly deduced that the struggle between the ancient Libyans and the Egyptians goes back to pre-dynastic times, as pointed out by Breasted (1906), and also to the beginning of the Northern Kingdom of the Delta when the invading Pharaohs were forcibly trying to unify the two kingdoms: the northern Libyan Lower Egypt and the southern Nubian Upper Egypt. This means that if the wars of the Tehenu-Temehu and the Egyptians were pre-dynastic, then the existence of the Tehenu and the Temehu people in Egypt surely goes farther back in time.
This conclusion is also supported, in addition to the above Egyptian genealogy, by the fact that several scholars generally agree that the Egyptians always referred to the Tehenu and the Temehu with titles indicating their native origin and not as foreigners; and by the fact that the Egyptians were indeed very careful not to adopt any foreign gods, as pointed out by most Egyptologists, and as such their adoption of the Libyan Neith, Amon, Bast, Sekhmet, Set and many others is a strong indicator that they did not consider the Libyans as "foreigners".
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Post by thamm1 on Mar 27, 2016 21:08:54 GMT -5
Please refer to this work:
"The Ancient Egyptians called the land and the people west of the Nile Valley the Tehenu, whom appear to have been a numerous group, as attested by Egyptian references, such as "the countries of the Tehenu" and "the chiefs of the Tehenu". But since the Temehu were also referred to as "the Westerners", those who inhabited the area immediately west of the Nile, it becomes difficult to separate between the two Berber groups. Hence, according to Oric Bates, the ancient Egyptians often did not always discriminate between the Temehu (Tmh') and the Tehenu (Th'n).
Those writers who claimed that the Temehu tribes were comprised of two groups – the Tehenu in the north and the Nehesu in the south – may have been confused too, since according to the Egyptians themselves the Nehesu are a distinctive group, and in all probability what they meant to say was that the Libyans comprised two groups: the Tehenu in the north and the Temehu tribes in the south, and thus the Tehenu were rightly identified with Lower Egypt, and the Temehu with Middle-Nubia. This makes sound sense when one refers to the ancient Egyptian's classification of humankind:
The Egyptians divided the human race into four classes, namely the Egyptians, the A’mu (Semites), the Neh’esu (Nubians) and the Temeh’u (Temehu) in the country Tmh’ (Libyans). The Neh'esu refers to all Africans bordering Egypt from the south, like the Ethiopians; the Temehu covers all Africans bordering Egypt from the west; and the A'mu are obviously the Semites bordering Egypt from the east (of the Middle East), like the Akkadians and the Phoenicians, whom originally were Saharan groups split from the Afro-Asiatic family around the 5th millennium BC.
Of course, modern genetic, anthropological and linguistic discoveries conclusively relate both the Egyptians and the Semites (and all the ancient Mediterranean peoples) to the Sahara, and therefore this kind of genealogy is politically motivated and serves no purpose to our present enquiry, except that it clearly shows the Nehesu as a separate group from the Temehu, and that the Temehu designates the whole of the Libyan peoples west of the Nile – that is all the Imazighen west of the Nile including the Tehenu, the Ribu, the Nasamons, the Garamantes, etc.
This is also apparent from the extent of the Temehu's territories, which appear to have been comprised of various communities and tribes, occupying much of the Sudan and possibly all the way to Fezzan; and hence several scholars, starting from Oric Bates, have openly discussed the possibility of the Temehu being the distant ancestors of the present day Tuareg tribes of the great Sahara Desert, "The Speakers of Tamaheqt", or *Temehaght > Temejeght > Temezeght > Tamazight, the language of the entire Berber population of North Africa, currently spanning 10 countries, from the Red Sea to the Atlantic Ocean and from the Mediterranean Sea to Lake Chad.
Few years after the publication of Bates' unique book, 'The Times' (20 March 1928) published a study drawing similarities between the Temehu and the images of prehistoric drawings found in the Air Mountain in the southern Sahara desert. This begs the simple question: if the Temehu were recent sea-people invaders of Egypt (or of Libya, as it was known then), then how come the ancient Egyptians considered them the natives of both Egypt and Libya? Why did they include them in their genealogy of humankind long before the arrival of the sea-people?
Surely the Egyptians knew enough about their neighbours as not to confuse natives with foreign pirates and include the latter in their classification of the human race! The Egyptian classification of the human race serves no scientific purpose other than show the Temehu as a massive group inhabiting the whole of Libya (that is the whole of Africa west of Egypt), and thus this by itself is more than enough to put all other theories concerning the European origin of the Temehu tribes out of their 'miseries'. In speaking of the Biblical genealogy, the Biblical HAM (the African cursed son of Noah – see Genesis for more on this), appears to be a metatheses of the older TMH; and hence in the Bible the Libyans appeared as the Lubim, or the Lebahim of the Old Testament, the son of Mizraim, and thus back to Ta-Mazight, as Bates was the first to mention.
It is apparent here that both the Egyptians and their later students must have based their written traditions on earlier and much older oral lore and as such the original classification myth must have been much older than the written version of the later Pharaohs. This also means that "internet-chat experts", who confuse the recent sea-people with the Libyan Tehenu and/or Temehu and subsequently made the Temehu a foreign blond group, are committing a grave mistake, in the same way their predecessors related the ancient Egyptians to Sumeria or Mars! We have plenty of evidence, most of which is prehistoric, to the fact that these Berber groups were natives to the area since pre-dynastic times. And to ignore this monumental evidence, or, like other scholars had pointed out, to make it intentionally obscure, serves no purpose other than illustrate Amen-like motives!"
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Post by thamm1 on Mar 27, 2016 21:08:06 GMT -5
Honestly I don't see how pictures of Nubians who served in later Egyptian armies and as the working class of upper Egypt offsets genetic science. Let alone the Berber heritsge of lower Egypt. Who do you think Namer attacked in the north?
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Post by thamm1 on Mar 27, 2016 21:07:34 GMT -5
For instance, the first dated appearance of the title pharaoh being attached to a ruler's name occurs in Year 17 of Siamun on a fragment from the Karnak Priestly Annals. Here, an induction of an individual to the Amun priesthood is dated specifically to the reign of Pharaoh Siamun.[8] This new practice was continued under his successor Psusennes II and the twenty-second dynasty kings. For instance, the Large Dakhla stela is specifically dated to Year 5 of king 'Pharaoh Shoshenk, beloved of Amun' whom all Egyptologists concur was Shoshenq I--the founder of the Twenty-second dynasty--including Alan Gardiner in his original 1933 publication of this stela.[9] Shoshenq I was the second successor of Siamun. Meanwhile, the old custom of referring to the sovereign simply as pr-aa continued in traditional Egyptian narratives.[citation
The Third Intermediate Period (1077–732 BC) marked the end of the New Kingdom after the collapse of the Egyptian empire. A number of dynasties of Libyan origin ruled, giving this period its alternative name of the Libyan Period.
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Post by thamm1 on Mar 27, 2016 21:06:03 GMT -5
Lybians aka North Africans are light complected or lying half breed Vandalized Black people? It can't be both ways. Additionally if the ancient Egyptians show them as light complected are those Egyptians white washing history? You do understand that all these groups are close cousins correct? EM35 phenotypes are all North African and not SSA which includes lower and upoer Egypt. I think it rather telling you have choosen to flat ignore a MOUNTAIN of genetic evidence from experts in the field to opt for afro-shopped pictures?
Bantu's are not Egyptians and the light complected races predate Egypt and all of written history this is a fact. Bantus were not even near Eat let alone North East African when the predynastic period started in the Nile delta. North Africans are related to Near Eastern peoples and they left African before the Naqada culture began. Honestly a library card would clear a lot of this up.
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Post by thamm1 on Mar 27, 2016 21:05:16 GMT -5
Its beyond bizarre when you consider the supposed sentiment is to claim ancestry. If you pay attention the Afrocentrists want to be anything but West Africans? I for one have no issue with SSAs so I find it confusing they avoid claiming their true heritage. It is equally puzzling that they are so sensitive to racism yet promite profound racism themselves. As if evey culture on eartg was some mutated black people? If that was the case why do they openly show contempt for all other groups if they are just mutated SSAs? The logic is so twisted that the only explanation is an inferiority complex.
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Post by thamm1 on Mar 27, 2016 21:04:32 GMT -5
While we are at it let's dispel the Negroes in the Americas before the Native Americans propaganda youtu.be/vRboWkSIyoc
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Post by thamm1 on Mar 27, 2016 21:04:04 GMT -5
Some Bedouin tribes are absolutely black skin. These are the people you see in the European paintings of the Moors in Europe with respect to leadership positions. The Moroccans i.e Almohads did employ SSA troops.
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