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Post by ANCIENT on Feb 14, 2016 22:50:35 GMT -5
I have provided proof. Black people are not indigenous to North Africa that's why the Moors weren't black. They came as slaves later. LMAO! No you didn't, give me the proof from DNA and historical records! Put your money where your mouth is. Because I know for a FACT thats a lie. KMT is in North Africa so what race where the Kemetians? |
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Post by ANCIENT on Feb 14, 2016 22:52:59 GMT -5
Indigenous North Africans were significantly darker, like the shade of Sub-Saharan Africans... FACTS!!!
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Post by ANCIENT on Feb 14, 2016 22:54:22 GMT -5
You probably think Egypt is in the Middle East too, dont you.
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Post by thamm1 on Feb 14, 2016 23:52:57 GMT -5
The people are middle eastern or arabs.
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Post by ANCIENT on Feb 15, 2016 13:00:50 GMT -5
The people are middle eastern or arabs. I know the people in the Middle East are Arabs. The Arabs are also in North Africa including Egypt, but they're not indigenous to that land either. |
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Post by Tukuler al~Takruri on Feb 15, 2016 16:20:34 GMT -5
Sorry but all MidEasters aren't Arab though they may speak Arabic the same as a native English speaker isn't necessarily British or of such descent. The people are middle eastern or arabs. I know the people in the Middle East are Arabs. The Arabs are also in North Africa including Egypt, but they're not indigenous to that land either. |
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Post by ANCIENT on Feb 15, 2016 16:56:23 GMT -5
Sorry but all MidEasters aren't Arab though they may speak Arabic the same as a native English speaker isn't necessarily British or of such descent. I know the people in the Middle East are Arabs. The Arabs are also in North Africa including Egypt, but they're not indigenous to that land either. I never said ALL Middle Easterns are Arabs, Middle Eastern is not even a race nor an official term, just an Eurocentric term. We was speaking on Arabs therefore I answered the statement accordingly, just like if someone was asking me about America and I replied by saying "I know the people of America are white" knowing that not ALL Americans are white. Its impossible for all Middle Easterns to be Arabs because the term "Middle Eastern" is not restricted to a people but only restricted to an area, you have Jews who are Middle Eastern & I'm very aware that all Middle Easterns are not Arabs. Thanks for nit-picking. |
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Post by Tukuler al~Takruri on Feb 15, 2016 17:25:58 GMT -5
Don't take it personally. Many following this forum don't know there are Lebanese and Syrians who protest being labeled Arab. Welcome aboard. BTW Iraqi Jews sometimes identify as Arab Jews and Spanish&Portuguese Jews in Syria actually celebrate that they were finally accepted as al-'Arab ul-Musta'ribah. Sorry but all MidEasters aren't Arab though they may speak Arabic the same as a native English speaker isn't necessarily British or of such descent. I never said ALL Middle Easterns are Arabs, Middle Eastern is not even a race nor an official term, just an Eurocentric term. We was speaking on Arabs therefore I answered the statement accordingly, just like if someone was asking me about America and I replied by saying "I know the people of America are white" knowing that not ALL Americans are white. Its impossible for all Middle Easterns to be Arabs because the term "Middle Eastern" is not restricted to a people but only restricted to an area, you have Jews who are Middle Eastern & I'm very aware that all Middle Easterns are not Arabs. Thanks for nit-picking. |
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Post by thamm1 on Feb 15, 2016 17:53:26 GMT -5
Arab is a race. And all who claim to be Arab are Arab. But I don't there are any black arabs.
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Post by anansi on Feb 15, 2016 20:56:40 GMT -5
Arab is a race. And all who claim to be Arab are Arab. But I don't there are any black arabs. No it's not, it's a language just like English..ex; I speak English but is not an English man, Haitians speak French but are not Frenchmen so are the some ppl in Mali,DRC, and Cote d'Ivoire. Dominicans speak Spanish but are not Spaniard.  Imam of Mecca is descended purely from the Bakr bin Wa'il Saudi Bedouin        Mahra man Mahra are from the Kudha'a tribe Jews from the Habban area resemble Falasha
  Hawazin man with son
Related people were the Sulaym and their dozens of tribes Qays ibn Ailan, the Hawazin clans of Banu Rabiah, Kaab or Chub, Uqayl, Khafaja each described as tall and "muscular" and near black in color by colonialists and hundreds of their sub-clans occupied much of Central and North Arabia.  Haweitat of Sinai.
The people of the Haweit'at tribe live along the coast of Arabia Hejaz from the Tihama to Sinai and claim descent from the Nabataeans and the Harim bin Simal branch of the Banu Salim. Still near black after many centuries of trading in white concubines.
www.egyptsearch.com/forums/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=print_topic;f=15;t=006654Thank to Dana marniche: However I am not going to gloss over ethnic differences colorism in Arabian countries but Blacks in that general area goes back thousand of years in recorded history and pre history so much so that at one point white or red was synonymous with slaves , And slavery from Africa did have an impact although especially those that did not originally follow any of the book, so their presence there is complex,from indigenous to being conquered to being conquerors themselves. But as to your statement that Black Arabs do not exist or you have never seen one, my answer to you is they were the original. |
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Post by thamm1 on Mar 24, 2016 18:48:03 GMT -5
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Post by thamm1 on Mar 24, 2016 19:36:02 GMT -5
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Post by thamm1 on Mar 24, 2016 19:58:47 GMT -5
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Post by thamm1 on Mar 24, 2016 20:11:20 GMT -5
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Post by thamm1 on Mar 24, 2016 20:15:33 GMT -5
Genetic evidence The genetic proximity observed between Moroccans and Southern Europeans is due to the fact that both these groups shared a common ancestor either in the Upper Paleolithic, and in the Neolithic or alternatively during history with the invasion and the occupation during nearly seven centuries of the Iberian Peninsula by Moorish troops.[31] A genetic study published in January 2012 stated that the indigenous North-west African ancestry appears most closely related to populations outside of Africa but "divergence between Moroccan people and Near Eastern/Europeans likely precedes the Holocene (>12,000 ya) and The Paleolithic (>40.000BC)."[32] Recent studies make clear no significant genetic differences exist between Arabic and non-Arabic speaking populations, The human leukocyte antigen HLA DNA data suggest that most Moroccans are of a Berber origin and that Arabs who invaded North Africa and Spain in the 7th century did not substantially contribute to the gene pool.[33][34] The Moorish refugees from Spain settled in the coast-towns.[35] According to a 2000 article in European Journal of Human Genetics, Moroccans from North-Western Africa were genetically closer to Iberians than to Sub-Saharan Africans of Bantu Ethnicity and Middle Easterners.[36] The different loci studied revealed close similarity between the Berbers and other north African groups, mainly with Moroccan Arabic-speakers, which is in accord with the hypothesis that the current Moroccan population has a strong Berber background.[37] Various population genetics studies along with historians such as Gabriel Camps and Charles-André Julien lend support to the idea that the bulk of the gene pool of modern Northwest Africans, irrespective of linguistic group, is derived from the Berber populations of the pre-Islamic period.[38] According to the X-Chromosome SNP analyses, the authors reported a high genetic homogeneity between berbers and Arabs in NW Africa, so they suggested that the Arabisation of this area was a cultural phenomenon, which did not imply a replacement of the ancestry population. Our results give support the hypothesis of an early settlement of NW Africa . The original berber population seem to have received a low genetic influx from the surrounding areas. Different hypothesis have been suggested to explain the genetic differentiation of the Moroccan population. An initial genetic drift could have caused differences in allele frequency distribution that have not been re-established due to a certain level of geographic isolation. The Strait of Gibraltar has been described by several authors as an important genetic barrier. Even a certain level of genetic exchange probably occurred between NW Africa and the South of the Iberian Peninsula, sharp frequency changes have been described in this area. Also the Sahara desert has been suggested as responsible of the genetic isolation of NW African populations from Sub-Saharan populations. There is no consensus about the impact of the Neolithic demic diffusion in the Mediterranean area. According to our results, a low impact of the Neolithic expansions and/or later migration events on NW African populations would have occurred. X-Chromosome SNP analyses en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moroccan_genetics |
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