"There is recent research surfacing that the Roman empire and the Vatican church actually played a role in the formation of Islam, and actually aided it in it's creation but this information has been covered up for the establishment of narratives. "
MOM says this and in the "official" history of Islam - if read carefully suggests something close. A number of things dont add up.
1. Muhammed was illiterate 2. His followers were illiterate 3. the Quran was written down after after he died based on people's memories of his revelations......... - this is totally suspect.
4. According to Wiki: "The Quran speaks well of the relationship it has with former books (the Torah and the Gospels) and attributes their similarities to their unique origin and saying all of them have been revealed by the one God.
The Quran's language was similar to the Syriac language.The Quran recounts stories of many of the people and events recounted in Jewish and Christian sacred books (Tanakh, Bible) and devotional literature (Apocrypha, Midrash), although it differs in many details. Adam, Enoch, Noah, Eber, Shelah, Abraham, Lot, Ishmael, Isaac, Jacob, Joseph, Job, Jethro, David, Solomon, Elijah, Elisha, Jonah, Aaron, Moses, Zechariah, John the Baptist and Jesus are mentioned in the Quran as prophets of God (see Prophets of Islam). In fact, Moses is mentioned more in the Quran than any other individual. Jesus is mentioned more often in the Quran than Muhammad, while Mary is mentioned in the Quran more than the New Testament."
This suggests that the Quran was created by literate people who had extensive knowledge of both the Torah and Bible:....... (moses, jesus, mary , mentioned more than Muhammed is shocking enough).
Furthemore the Quranic language is SYRIAC.
"Syriac, also known as Syriac Aramaic or Classical Syriac is a dialect of Middle Aramaic that is the minority language of indigenous ethnic Assyrians/Syriacs in south eastern Turkey, northern Iraq, northeastern Syria and North western Iran. It is also the liturgical language of several churches, in particular the Assyrian Church of the East, Syriac Orthodox Church, Chaldean Catholic Church and Maronite Church."
"Along with Latin and Greek, Syriac became one of "the three most important Christian languages in the early centuries" of the Common Era. From the 1st century AD, Syriac became the vehicle of Syriac Christianity and culture, and the liturgical language of the Syriac Orthodox Church and subsequently the Assyrian Church of the East, along with its descendants: Chaldean Catholic Church, the Ancient Church of the East, the Malankara Orthodox Syrian Church, and the Assyrian Pentecostal Church.
Syriac Christianity and language spread throughout Asia as far as the Indian Malabar Coast and Eastern China, and was the medium of communication and cultural dissemination for the later Arabs and, to a lesser extent, the Parthian Empire and Sasanian Empire. Primarily a Christian medium of expression, Syriac had a fundamental cultural and literary influence on the development of Arabic, which largely replaced it towards the 14th century. Syriac remains the sacred language of Syriac Christianity to this day.
Syriac is a Middle Aramaic language and, as such, a language of the Northwest Semitic languages of the Afroasiatic family. It is written in the Syriac alphabet, a derivation of the Aramaic alphabet."
So, It appears that the Quran was the creation of the Syriac cultural sphere - literate Jews or Christians - created sometime after the life of any Muhammed.
Furthemore, (according to Wiki): "The central theme of the Quran is monotheism. God is depicted as living, eternal, omniscient and omnipotent (see, e.g., Quran 2:20, 2:29, 2:255). God's omnipotence appears above all in his power to create. He is the creator of everything, of the heavens and the earth and what is between them (see, e.g., Quran 13:16, 50:38, etc.). All human beings are equal in their utter dependence upon God,[better source needed] and their well-being depends upon their acknowledging that fact and living accordingly
It appears that perhaps Islam was created and used for the the same purposes that Catholicism was used in Europe. - to civilize the many polytheist/pagan barbarian tribes in the "Middle East" and to bring them under some kind of political control. or may have been an offshoot: What Christianity was to Judaism: used and embraced for political/economic purposes.
^Ya, it seems religion is very useful for coalescing disparate groups into a focused entity - generally for war and conquest. I was very surprised years ago, when I discovered the calls for total Genocide in the Protestant Bibles - no doubt to encourage killing of non-whites Do you happen to know if the Islamic books have similar encouragements?
Post by mindovermatter on Feb 13, 2018 18:49:47 GMT -5
^^^^Duh! Islam is based on war and conquest! Muhammed himself was a road bandit and caravan thief, who later transformed himself into a pedophile and psycophathic warlord who killed men and took their wives as sex slaves. His religion explicitly makes it clear to kill infidels and non-believers and especially destroy pagan cultures. The acts of violence and aggression in the Q'uran and how Islam originally spread (through expansionism and conquest) makes it clear that it's a weaponized barbarian abrahamic religion.
I just found this interesting video, by a racist albino, about how Christianity actually regressed and retarded the original civilizations and cultures of Europe, North Africa and the advanced pagan cultures it came upon:
Now here is a great series of videos that shows just how Islam was modified and created to weaponize and serve certain entities with certain geopolitical goals:
I think the reason the Turks became secular was because they were actually smart enough to figure out that they could use Islam to dumb down and stupidify the masses of mulatto's and quadroon's they bred out of the Black populations of North Africa and the greater Middle East.
And because this entire area was mixed out by these masses and hordes of albino Eurasians in ancient times, they all suffered from identity and racial angst as a result afterwards, that contributed to them converting en masse to Islam and becoming stupid and brainless Islamo-fanatics, as for a purpose and direction in life.....
The Turk Eurasian Albino's became clever and picked up on all this eventually, since they ruled this entire region from North Africa to the Middle East, and had the Ottoman empire and all that; they began to understand the psyche of these insecure mixed masses of the Middle East, and they eventually began to decipher and learn how to control and use these masses of mulatto/quadroon populations to extort and cheat them and use them for their own ends....
Thus, the Turk Albino's began secretly and covertly inserting and promoting up, fellow near-white albino's and other Eurasian albino folks from the Middle East and North Africa regions, into positions of power, influence and authority in their empire; while shunning and discriminating against Black/colored North Africans and Middle Easterners, and putting them in the bottom of the social ladder.
They used Islam as a tool to distract native Black/colored's onto focusing on the "infidels" and trivial theism non-sense, and to stupidify and dumb down them, as well the mulatto masses of the Middle East regions. To basically hide the fact that the Albino Turks were secretly ruling them, oppressing them, discriminating against them, and using them for their own ends while not actually following any Islamic tenets at all.
They also created a bogus and fraudulent corrupted version of the original Islamic religion, that the Turk Albino's themselves created, to promote and solidify white albino supremacy and the Turk albino's power base in the Middle East and Northern Africa.
This can be seen in countries like Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Qatar, Syria, Lebanon, Jordan, the Emirate countries and most of the Arabian peninsula nations and the Iraq region. Where, TO THIS DAY< MOST OF THE RULERS AND UPPER CLASSES OF THOSE COUNTRIES/NATIONS ARE ACTUALLY EURASIAN ALBINO'S OR TURKIC/TURKISH DERIVED ALBINO'S!
And none of those presidents or princes or kings or prime ministers of those Middle Eastern and North African countries ACTUALLY FOLLOW OR PRACTICE THEIR VERSION OF ISLAM; while THEY PROMOTE AND PUSH DOWN ISLAM INSIDE THE THROATS OF THE MULATTO MIXED MASSES THAT THEY ARE RULING OVER IN THOSE COUNTRIES TO DUMB THEM DOWN AND PREVENT THEM FROM QUESTIONING THE TURKIC ALBINO RULE!
These Eurasian Albino Turks used their mulatto's, as cannon fodder to solidify and preserve their power base, using a religious interpretation and rationalization; and brainwashed their mulatto's masses into accepting it and projecting their anger at infidels and non-muslims and black/colored people; instead of the Turk albino themselves while secretly not following or accepting their own version of Islam at all.
Eventually the Turk albino's managed to brainwash their mulatto's masses into thinking their whiteness was a good thing and being Black/colored was akin to being inferior, and they used their version of Islam as a bandage and first aid kit, for their mulatto's to use whenever they came to being angry at the fact that they were at the bottom of the economical class and social ladder in contrast to the Turk albino's.
The Turk albino brainwashed the masses of their mulatto's into accepting their fraudulent version of Islam, because they knew these mulatto's and quadroon's were desperate for an identity and purpose, and would buy anything that their Turkic rulers sold to them in the form of religion, since they were racially mixed and their rulers were pure Albino Turks.
So the Turk Albino's went to work setting up a Hindu style caste system, with an Islamic twist and version and interpretation; where the Turk Albino's would not have to follow or uphold the strict tenets and fundamentals of their own version of Islam, and basically call the shots in their Turkish empire and the Middle East region; while their mulatto's would have to zealously uphold and follow their version of Islam and fight the infidels and do all the grunt/slave work for the Turkic albino rulers, and be dumbed down and brainwashed as a result.
Basically the region of Anatolia/modern Turkey became the parasite region, where the Turk Albino's set up their central command and power base, then they set up proxy Albino Eurasian Turkic rulers in North Africa and the Middle East, to rule over and control and extort and con and use the mulatto's masses that the Turkic albino's had created in those regions at the time of the start of the Ottoman empire; to uphold Turkic Albino rule and supremacy thinly disguised as Islam.
The region of Turkey would extort, rip off, steal, and take, acquire all the proceeds and goodies and produce, and production and economic activity, of their satellite Turkic vassal states and nations, in the other areas of Northern Africa and the Middle East that their empire got in control of.
But they also would have the PRIVILEGE AND LUXURY OF NOT HAVING TO ACTUALLY DO ANY WORK OR FOLLOW THEIR STRICT TENETS OF ISLAM, WHILE THEIR SLAVE STATES IN THE MIDDLE EAST AND COLONIES THAT TURKEY RULED OVER, WOULD DO ALL THE WORK AND PRODUCE ALL GOODS FOR THE TURKS IN TURKEY; the Turks basically set up a system where Turkey got everything while they gave nothing back to their colonies and their mulatto's, and the had the freedom to do whatever the **** they wanted in Turkey, including not actually following Islam.....
And thus this became the basis for Turkish secularism in Turkey, which was basically freedom for the Albino Turks to do whatever they wanted, while they pushed down Islam on their mulatto's and on black/colored subjects to obey them and do all the work and slave labor for them under the guise of an Islamic empire and Islamic brainwashing.
Religion was used to stupidify and mind control the masses by the Albino Turks while they enjoyed all the greatest luxuries and benefits that they conned their mulatto/colored subjects out of.
And thus an Islamic Hindu style caste system was born in the Middle East and North Africa region; with the Turkic Albino's and the majority albino Turkish regions at the top of the social and economical wealth ladder, and their mulatto/black colored majority countries and regions at the bottom.
mellomusings - the first reply's were specific to Masa's Haj. You made no comment. The rest is natural outgrowth. If you want to control your thread, do so with input.
MOM - Re. this quote: Scythians set themselves up as rulers of an empire stretching from west Persia through Syria and Judaea to the borders of Egypt.
I believe the boys at Britannica have confused Scythians with Parthians, I know of no Scythian empire that far west. Check it out.
The point of my post was to discuss the events that occurred during his pilgrimage not about Africans bending over backwards to appease non-blacks. It wasn't uncommon then as it is now for people with wealth or prestige to show it, so I don't see the point in what you posted.