NEW FILM-- TRAILER FOR ‘EXODUS: GOD & KINGS’

[truthteacher2007]

Jul 15, 2014 13:19:17 GMT -5 amunratheultimate said:

Jul 10, 2014 0:15:48 GMT -5 truthteacher2007 said:

They can't do a historical accurate story of Exodus because that s888 never happened! ....But that's... none of my business.....

They even tried to make us believe Noah was 500 years old when he had his children and 600 years old during the flood. I guess that makes his children 100 years old. They sure didn't look that old in the movie. Failure of the movie or the Bible?

In the six hundredth year of Noah’s life, in the second month, on the seventeenth day of the month, on that day all the fountains of the great deep burst forth, and the windows of the heavens were opened. 12 And rain fell upon the earth forty days and forty nights.

biblia.com/bible/esv/Ge5.32-10.1

I would say once again a failure of Hollyweird. For one thing, I don't think the Bible is literal history. It's metaphor. Quite often the numbers have a symbolic meaning. For example, consider the amount of times 40 is used. It rained for 40 day and 40 nights, the children of Israel wandered in the desert for 40 years etc. These numbers have a deeper symbolic meaning. It's the message of the story that is significant. Trying to make it into literal histroy misses the point. However, I guess casting decided that a 500 yr old man and his 100yr old kids wouldn't be sexy enough to sell tickets at the box office....

[truthteacher2007]

Jul 17, 2014 5:24:59 GMT -5 rivertemz said:

Jul 16, 2014 19:47:20 GMT -5 azrur said:

that was on tv yesterday what about it?

Just the fact that the white audience get the same vibe from the trailer, I assumed they wouldn't even recognise the controversy.

Here's a thought. Why doesn't someone make a movie about Queen Elizabeth the first with a cast made up entierly of people of color? Well get some Asians, Latinos, Afro Americans, all A list actors to play the rolls. How many people do you think will suspend disbelief and just admier the acting talent and the story? I think we all know the answer.

[anansi]

Jul 17, 2014 5:24:59 GMT -5 rivertemz said:

Jul 16, 2014 19:47:20 GMT -5 azrur said:

that was on tv yesterday what about it?

Just the fact that the white audience get the same vibe from the trailer, I assumed they wouldn't even recognise the controversy.

Well a generation or two ago they wouldn't have gotten it so I guess progress is being made in that sense.

[rivertemz]

Jul 17, 2014 9:31:00 GMT -5 truthteacher2007 said:

Jul 17, 2014 5:24:59 GMT -5 rivertemz said:

Just the fact that the white audience get the same vibe from the trailer, I assumed they wouldn't even recognise the controversy.

Here's a thought. Why doesn't someone make a movie about Queen Elizabeth the first with a cast made up entierly of people of color? Well get some Asians, Latinos, Afro Americans, all A list actors to play the rolls. How many people do you think will suspend disbelief and just admier the acting talent and the story? I think we all know the answer.

lool, they would go on an outrage !
remember Oz ?(the black version of wizard of Oz the fiction film) They despised it so much.

[anansi]

Originally posted by Nesben Boycott Exodus





A new film called" Exodus" coming later in 2014, is the same old" white wash" of ancient Egypt. Their is a movement to Boycott Exodus,called # Boycott Exodus . One would think in 2014 we would see a more color friendly ancient Egypt , but No. It's the same old white people parading around as Africans, & Hebrews. The director Ridely Scott should know better, but as one can see by the trailer he does not !


Good to be back !

[anansi]

Jul 22, 2014 19:49:13 GMT -5 anansi said:

Originally posted by Nesben Boycott Exodus





A new film called" Exodus" coming later in 2014, is the same old" white wash" of ancient Egypt. Their is a movement to Boycott Exodus,called # Boycott Exodus . One would think in 2014 we would see a more color friendly ancient Egypt , but No. It's the same old white people parading around as Africans, & Hebrews. The director Ridely Scott should know better, but as one can see by the trailer he does not !


Good to be back !

Like I said Nesben I for one will not pluck down hard earn yen to go see it,but if I said I am not curious that would be a lie,and truth be told we need an alternative we have the money and the talent in our community to pull it off,this is not the 50ts/60ts but no one as far as I know have shown any inclination to so.

[rivertemz]

Jul 22, 2014 20:10:25 GMT -5 anansi said:

Jul 22, 2014 19:49:13 GMT -5 anansi said:

Originally posted by Nesben Boycott Exodus





A new film called" Exodus" coming later in 2014, is the same old" white wash" of ancient Egypt. Their is a movement to Boycott Exodus,called # Boycott Exodus . One would think in 2014 we would see a more color friendly ancient Egypt , but No. It's the same old white people parading around as Africans, & Hebrews. The director Ridely Scott should know better, but as one can see by the trailer he does not !


Good to be back !

Like I said Nesben I for one will not pluck down hard earn yen to go see it,but if I said I am not curious that would be a lie,and truth be told we need an alternative we have the money and the talent in our community to pull it off,this is not the 50ts/60ts but no one as far as I know have shown any inclination to so.

Lol can we ask Tyler Perry to try something ??  looool  kiddin

But someone like the world renown cinematic director, Spike Lee, could get on board.
Who remembers MJ's music video to remember the time;

Directed by John Singleton and choreographed by Fatima Robinson, the video was an elaborate production and became one of Jackson's longest videos at over nine minutes. It was set in Ancient Egypt and featured groundbreaking visual effects and appearances by Eddie Murphy, Iman, The Pharcyde, Magic Johnson, Tom "Tiny" Lister, Jr. and Wylie Draper...

The music video was generally well received by music critics. Ira Robbins of Entertainment Weekly described "Remember the Time" as being a "gorgeous ancient Egyptian extravaganza" video.

wiki

I found this video very refreshing, this was a great attempt for an Ancient Egyptian short-film, the amateur crops on the music video were far more fitting than the ones seen on the Exodus trailer.

Whilst Iman, the Famous Somali Model, played the queen of Egypt and Eddie played the Pharaoh, I just felt inspired by the casting, that its enough to praise the director. (although I wished Arsenio Hall played the pharoah, he would have look more like an akhenaten than eddie does ).

[nebsen]

blogs.indiewire.com/shadowandact/will-you-join-the-boycott-exodus-movement-20140720

I see that here on ESR that this film & it's shorts comings have been discussed. So in the future I will really check before posting a" New Thread " Any way this is where (link) I got my primary information about Exodus.

This is a great site for all you who are interested in Black Cinema , I just love this site, Shadows & Acts: Iniewire

[anansi]

Posted by journeytothesource:

Yet again, Hollywood has depicted the ancient Egyptians as White in the movie Exodus: Gods and Kings, despite all of the objective evidence against this ridiculous notion.

Directed by Ridley Scott of Gladiator fame, and staring Joel Edgerton as the Egyptian pharaoh Ramesses, and Christian Bale as the prophet Moses. It is an interpretation of the exodus of the Israelites from Egypt as led by Moses and related in the Old Testament Book of Exodus.

Joel Edgerton who plays the Egyptian pharaoh Ramesses couldn’t be more European, looking as though he would be more at home playing a role in a Polish movie than one about a North African king. He simply looks absurd and way out of place, at least to the honest and educated. What’s more none of the other Egyptians in the movie appear to be Black, although admittedly, I haven’t seen the full movie yet.

This epic has a top line up too, and also stars the likes of Sigourney Weaver and Ben Kingsley, and by the looks of it no money has been spared in the production of this trash.
I’ve attached a couple of videos, one of the trailer, and the other is my very own emphatically showing that the ancient Egyptians were actually Black Africans.

THE HOLLYWOOD FANTASY

THE HISTORICAL REALITY!

[anansi]

Lucy: Why I'm Tired of Seeing White People on the Big Screen

I'm tired of seeing white people on the silver screen.

First, let me note that I am white. I am a white woman who goes to the theater to see probably a dozen films (if not more) in a given year, a white woman who readily consumes TV shows and series and often blogs/tweets about them. I love film. I love what Hollywood could be, but I must say that I don't love what it is, and that is a machine generating story after story in which the audience is asked to root for a white (usually male) hero over and over and over (and over) again. I'm tired. I'm tired of directors pretending that white actors are the default and that people of color are a distraction when it comes to filmmaking. I'm tired of black women in Hollywood being relegated to roles of slaves and "the help" over and over again. I'm tired of films convincing themselves that they are taking on something fresh and new, the likes of which the world has never seen, but in actuality adhering to tired tropes and stereotypes.

One example that comes to mind is Avatar, a "groundbreaking" film about aliens and humanity, which, underneath it all, is the same old White Savior story. But more recently is Lucy, the film starring Scarlett Johansson in which a woman named Lucy evolves and is able to use 100 percent of her brain's capacity after she unwittingly ingests a massive amount of drugs.

Lucy is about what humankind could be -- it's about possibilities. As Lucy's brainpower grows stronger and the volume of knowledge she is able to access increases, she delivers monologues about how little humans understand about death, existence, and the universe, mediating on time and history. The film likes to think of itself as reimagining everything that we think we know about humanity, and presents to us their vision of what the most evolved woman on earth looks like:

A blonde white woman.

See, I just can't get right with that.

You see, I was an anthropology major in high school and by the time I was 16 I'd learned all about Lucy (Australopithecus), the collection of bones found in Hadar and thought to have lived 3.2 million years ago, one of the oldest hominids we know of. Lucy the film doesn't try to hide how cute they thought they were being by naming the supreme evolved being in their film "Lucy" -- they show an ape-like creature crouched by a stream to illustrate just how far human beings have come, and say as much in the opening lines, depicting vast cities built up to show our progress. The original Lucy was not really an ape, though. She had small skull capacity like apes, but her skeleton shows she was bipedal and walked upright like humans. Hadar, by the way, is in the Awash Valley of Ethiopia.

So I guess what's sticking in my craw is the assertion that while human life originated in Africa -- a detail the film neatly skims over, placing the ape-like Lucy that Johansson sees in North America -- somehow the way we imagine the most evolved human being is blonde and white. Even more, when Lucy gets surges of knowledge in the film, her eyes flash brightly blue. Because blue eyes, we all know, are the universal symbol of superiority, right?

How is it that in a film whose premise rests on the idea of reimagining the past, present and future, we still end up with a blonde white woman with flashing blue eyes as the stand-in for what personifies evolution and supremely fulfilled human potential? At one point the Ape-like Lucy and Evolved Lucy meet face-to-face as Evolved Lucy does a bit of time-traveling. Their fingers touch, and we see them deliberately posed to mimic the famous Creation of Adam painting, and in that moment I saw what I suppose we were supposed to see: humanity at its beginning, and then humanity at its end, at its most perfect. Blonde, white and blue-eyed.

I can't accept that. I can't accept that there was only one black woman in the entire film, who delivered one line and who we never saw again. I can't accept that the bad guys were Asian and that although in China, Lucy's roommate says, "I mean, who speaks Chinese? I don't speak Chinese!" I can't accept that in Hercules, which I also saw this weekend, there were no people of color except for Dwayne Johnson himself and his mixed-race wife, whose skin was almost alabaster. I can't accept that she got maybe two lines and was then murdered. I can't accept that the "primitive tribe" in Hercules consisted of dark-haired men painted heavily, blackish green, to give their skin (head-to-toe) a darker appearance, so the audience could easily differentiate between good and bad guys by the white vs. dark skin. I can't accept that during the previews, Exodus: Gods and Kings, a story about Moses leading the Israelite slaves out of Egypt, where not a single person of color is represented, casts Sigourney Weaver and Joel Edgerton to play Egyptians. I can't accept that in the preview for Kingsman: The Secret Service, which takes place in London, features a cast of white boys and not a single person of Indian descent, which make up the largest non-white ethnic group in London. I can't accept that in stories about the end of the world and the apocalypse, that somehow only white people survive. I can't accept that while my daily life is filled with black and brown women, they are completely absent, erased, when I look at a TV or movie screen.

I can't accept that. And I can't accept that when we think about the potential of humankind and what our brains are capable of doing and thinking and feeling, that people of color would be absent from that imagining. I can't accept that. And I won't. I'm tired of seeing people that look like me crowding screens both big and small: I am not what the world looks like. Hollywood, stop whitewashing characters. Give us more films like this year's Annie. I'm no Lucy -- like everyone else I'm only using a tiny amount of my brain's capacity. But you don't need to be a superhuman logic-machine to see that Hollywood has a major problem with depicting people of color, and it's time to actually reimagine what the world can and should be.

--

Olivia Cole writes a blog at oliviaacole.wordpress.com and published her novel, Panther in the Hive, in 2014.

Follow Olivia Cole on Twitter: www.twitter.com/RantingOwl

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Like was said earlier in a post by Rivertemz some non Blk folks are also tired of the same ol same old.

[rivertemz]

^^ anansi I saw your post link on this other article written recently;

www.smh.com.au/entertainment/movies/ridley-scotts-exodus-film-cops-complaints-about-racist-casting-of-joel-edgerton-and-sigourney-weaver-20140729-zxxqh.html

Ridley Scott's Exodus film cops complaints about 'racist' casting of Joel Edgerton and Sigourney Weaver

Director Ridley Scott's new biblical blockbuster, Exodus: Gods and Kings, has come under fire for "whitewashing" African history, casting four white leads to tell a story of Israelities and Egyptians.
Sydney's Joel Edgerton, a blue-eyed blond from Blacktown, has a shaved head and a deep tan to play the lead Egyptian role of pharaoh Ramses II.
A porcelain-pale Sigourney Weaver plays his mother, Queen Tuya.
US Breaking Bad star Aaron Paul features as Israelite leader Joshua and the English-born Christian Bale takes on the role of Moses.
Tariq Nasheed, a director of the race documentary series Hidden Colors, has campaigned against the film for "redefining history".

"The storyline takes place in ancient Africa, but all the African Kings and Gods are portrayed by white actors and all the slaves, thieves and 'lower class' Egyptians are played by Black actors," he wrote on Facebook.

"When I saw they have Sigourney Weaver playing an African queen, I was done."
A screenshot of the cast list on movie website IMDB, contrasting the roles of the black and white actors, has been retweeted more than 1100 times.
Some on Twitter have also taken aim at the set, particularly the nose on the Great Sphinx of Giza, saying it gives the statue a European profile.
The Exodus casting is the latest in a long Hollywood history of making actors play different ethnicities, no matter how much dark make-up is required.

Another Exodus actor, Englishman Ben Kinglsey, was rebuked for the heavy whole-body make-up he wore to play Gandhi, even though Kingsley has Indian heritage.
Anthony Hopkins went very orange as Shakespeare's Moor Othello in a 1981 BBC production while Charlton Heston stood up for the right of a white actor to play a Eurasian role in Miss Saigon.
The US legend declared the casting block "obscenely racist" and resigned from the Actors Equity labour union in protest.

(twitter pic) Check this imdb screenshot of the casts...

[anansi]

So basically the blacks in the cast are non royal gofers or man in the streets,maybe one will be a fan waver..

[A Boy Named KING]

WOW!!!!,

White people crack me up with their blatant theft of History.

So now we are to believe that Egypt a Hot Country in Africa, was home to euros who wore armor from the romans time and whites who ran around baked in the sun?


I'm glad SOME Whites aren't oblivious to the disrespect and blatant at that.

You can't hope on whites changing, so you gotta put the leg work in yourself. Black People gotta create their own movies and not be fearful of losing money...This is the way people learn these days. Sadly not with books, but with pictures and videos...So use them to your advantage. Africans like Angola are doing their own movies so why can't AA's do the same? It seems though that Black Rich rather horde their wealth for themselves, then do something of value for it. Their could be real good movies on Black history that is not being shown simply because of "fear" "greed" etc. None want to put themselves on the line and bend over and take the heat to free the people and support knowledge for Black children.

I will watch that video of fans who see the bias.

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total hypocrisy blacks are moaning when they've been stealing celtic/nordic history movies and popular tv programmes for years:



uk.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20110611194929AAQBoOB

The actress that plays the character of Guinevere in the BBC tv show Merlin is Black!! Why would they cast a Black woman to play the role of a mythical BRITISH princess

A black or mixed race princess in Arthurian england?



lmao.

black actor 'defends' his role as Norse deity Heimdall in the film Thor

www.theguardian.com/culture/2010/apr/27/idris-elba-thor-race-debate

[anansi]

Jul 30, 2014 13:16:48 GMT -5 @ben said:

total hypocrisy blacks are moaning when they've been stealing celtic/nordic history movies and popular tv programmes for years:



uk.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20110611194929AAQBoOB

The actress that plays the character of Guinevere in the BBC tv show Merlin is Black!! Why would they cast a Black woman to play the role of a mythical BRITISH princess

A black or mixed race princess in Arthurian england?



lmao.

black actor 'defends' his role as Norse deity Heimdall in the film Thor

www.theguardian.com/culture/2010/apr/27/idris-elba-thor-race-debate

Who is the "they"!! I am reasonably certain that black folks did not write produce direct any of the above,and I as well thought Hiemdall was miscast.but unlike 100yrs of movie making pop mags and illustration that turned any classical African civilizations as alabaster white doesn't compare.

It may surprise you to know that the Arthurian legends is spiced with Black characters.

The Romance of Morien.
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Morien is a metrical romance of about five thousand lines extant in a single 14th century Dutch manuscript of the
Lancelot
Like Saint Maurice, the name
“
Morien
”

is derived from the word “Moor”.
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Morien is the son of Camelot’s
Sir Agloval and a Moorish princess with whom he had aliaison while questing in the Land of the Moors. Thirteen years later Morien, now a self-made knight, seeks his father to rescue his mother who has been disinherited.
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Morien’s overall blackness and resemblance to the devil
are recurrently emphasized inthe text. He is called
o

“black as a raven”
(Weston, 8).
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“
black as pit
ch”
and black as burnt brands”
(Weston, 10).


And though Morien is Christian, Sir Gawain
“deemed that
[he]
was a devil”
(Weston, 8).
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And, the common folk
“deemed they had seen the Foul Fiend himself”
(Weston, 23).
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In England, Morien meets and challenges Lancelot and Gawain, and eventually gainstheir goodwill by promising to behave courteously (since he behaved
“savagely” at
their first meeting). He has a few adventures, and
…Ultimately unites with his father, Agloval. They return to the Land of the Moors,
where Agloval weds Morien’s mother and proclaims her the Queen of the Moors.
www.academia.edu/2494445/_Black_in_Camelot_Africans_in_Arthurian_Legend_Revised_2013-05-14_
So as far as having Black characters in Arthurian England and legends that is well within a historical reality.