E1b1b is north african and not negroid...scientists says

[thamm1]

[thamm1]

[thamm1]

"Genetic studies have emphasized the contrast between North African and sub-Saharan populations, but the particular affinities of the North African mtDNA pool to that of Europe, the Near East, and sub-Saharan Africa have not previously been investigated. We have analysed 268 mtDNA control-region sequences from various Northwest African populations including severalSenegalese groups and compared these with the mtDNAdatabase. We have identified a few mitochondrial motifs that are geographically specific and likely predate the distribution and diversification of modern language families in North and West Africa. A certain mtDNA motif (16172C, 16219G), previously found in Algerian Berbers at high frequency, is apparently omnipresent in Northwest Africa and may reflect regional continuity of more than 20,000 years. The majority of the maternal ancestors of the Berbers must have come from Europe and the Near East since the Neolithic..."

Departamento de Genética, Universidad de La Laguna, Tenerife.

[djoser-xyyman]

Brada...here they come. you got this? AMRTU can deal with clowns like these.

Fool has no idea what he is talking about and quotes outdated studies. long retracted and debunked.



I don't have time for this..I got more serious research to get into.

For starters...The Negroid eh Caucasoid Amarna's were SSA. lol!




The raw data. Just plug it into the on-lne data



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[thamm1]

I have provided real data and pictures prove my point. There was no black people in North Africa. They came later as slaves.

[thamm1]

I knew once I provided this information you people could not provide a legitimate response. The truth hurts.

[anansi]

Feb 13, 2016 15:30:53 GMT -5 thamm1 said:

North African ancestors are both the cro-magnon Mechtoids people and men of Taforalt present in north africa since the mesolithic 25 000 years before the present; whose the mtDNA was found to be H, V, and U6 which are Eurasian lineages, as well as the proto-mediterranean Capsians who came from the mliddle east with Afro-Asiatic and the north african E1b1b lineage.

You tried to tie in some folks of probable Eurasian phenotype and claim that they represent the original complete with lite or white skin but..NASA you have a problem..There were no white skinned ppl before 7kys ago to link them to it matters little in the point you are trying to make,
egyptsearchreloaded.proboards.com/thread/2129/e1b1b-north-african-negroid-scientists?page=2&scrollTo=13456
Go here^

The original East African

indigenous people of Carthage courtesy of Djehuti:

See what I told you about cherry picking^ in all of your collage you flood the space with Roman era pics of people who may very well be displaced Romans or even earlier Greek colonist, welcome to ESR son lets get on with your education.

Compare the flora and Fauna of the wet phase sahara and east African grass lands of today

Maps of the wet phase Sahara going back over 7kyrs ago that stretched right across east Africa to west African linking a vast region Before there was anything called white ppl,even in Eurasia much less North Africa or any parts of Africa.

You then tried to link language with features which is rubbish the above is a Fulani whose language is Niger Congo which YOU labeled Negro based solely on the featues of some of it's ppl yet below it is the Broad featured Hausa who are the Afroasitic speaker.

[anansi]

Pre-historic rock art paintings from Tassili,
Sahara Desert of North Africa

From the wet phase Sahara note the type of loin cloth later seen in KMT and the Nile in general

Note the loin cloth as in the Saharan bowman centuries earlier.








Saharan cattle keepers of the wet phase

East African Cattle keepers today, why am I show you this?? to reinforce the point that there was a continuous communities unbroken by any barrier see map above, that people spread from the east and came west and traveled back and forth to this day,that Haplotype E is very African with outlairs in the nearby near East and even parts of Europe proper.


Catal Huyuk
Anatolian first farmers,Black and dark skinned folks with pepper corned hair dressed in Leopard skins.

[thamm1]

I provided true DNA analysis and pictures of ancient moors to prove their was no black people in North Africa. It has always been whites and Arabs only.

[anansi]

Feb 13, 2016 22:56:03 GMT -5 thamm1 said:

I provided true DNA analysis and pictures of ancient moors to prove their was no black people in North Africa. It has always been whites and Arabs only.

You provided dick! look at the above klik the links given that you asked for, at the time Black ppl were in Africa Europe and the so called Near East there were NOO!! white ppl not before 7kyrs ago.

Abstract

Many human craniofacial dimensions are largely of neutral adaptive significance, and an analysis of their variation can serve as an indication of the extent to which any given population is genetically related to or differs from any other. When 24 craniofacial measurements of a series of human populations are used to generate neighbor-joining dendrograms, it is no surprise that all modern European groups, ranging all of the way from Scandinavia to eastern Europe and throughout the Mediterranean to the Middle East, show that they are closely related to each other. The surprise is that the Neolithic peoples of Europe and their Bronze Age successors are not closely related to the modern inhabitants, although the prehistoric/modern ties are somewhat more apparent in southern Europe. It is a further surprise that the Epipalaeolithic Natufian of Israel from whom the Neolithic realm was assumed to arise has a clear link to Sub-Saharan Africa. Basques and Canary Islanders are clearly associated with modern Europeans. When canonical variates are plotted, neither sample ties in with Cro-Magnon as was once suggested. The data treated here support the idea that the Neolithic moved out of the Near East into the circum-Mediterranean areas and Europe by a process of demic diffusion but that subsequently the in situ residents of those areas, derived from the Late Pleistocene inhabitants, absorbed both the agricultural life way and the people who had brought it.
link
Read more: egyptsearchreloaded.proboards.com/thread/1753/phoenicians-levant#ixzz4070rEWZ8

Scholars show early Middle Easterners like the Natufians, while not absolutely identical, had clear links to tropical sub-Saharan African types. The Natufians were key players in the Neolithic advance. Key early migrations into the Levant & parts of Europe would be by these tropicals not Asiatics, Europeans, or Arab types.

"From the Mesolithic to the early Neolithic period different lines of evidence support an out-of-Africa Mesolithic migration to the Levant by northeastern African groups that had biological affinities with sub-Saharan populations. From a genetic point of view, several recent genetic studies have shown that subSanaran genetic lineages (affiliated with the Y-chromosome PN2 clade; Underhill et al. 2001) have spread through Egypt into the Near East, the Mediterranean area, and, for some lineages, as far north as Turkey (E3b-M35 Y lineage; Cinniogclu et al. 2004; Luis et al. 2004), probably during several dispersal episodes since the Mesolithic (Cinniogelu et al. 2004; King et al. 2008; Lucotte and Mercier 2003; Luis et al. 2004; Quintana-Murci et al. 1999; Semino et al. 2004; Underhill et al. 2001). This finding is in agreement with morphological data that suggest that populations with sub-Saharan morphological elements were present in northeastern Africa, from the Paleolithic to at least the early Holocene, and diffused northward to the Levant and Anatolia beginning in the Mesolithic…
This northward migration of northeastern African populations carrying sub-Saharan biological elements is concordant with the morphological homogeneity of the Natufian populations (Bocquentin 2003), which present morphological affinity with sub-Saharan populations (Angel 1972; Brace et al. 2005).

In addition, the Neolithic revolution was assumed to arise in the late Pleistocene Natufians and subsequently spread into Anatolia and Europe (Bar-Yosef 2002), and the first Anatolian farmers, Neolithic to Bronze Age Mediterraneans and to some degree other Neolithic-Bronze Age Europeans, show morphological affinities with the Natufians (and indirectly with sub-Saharan populations; Angel 1972; Brace et al. 2005), in concordance with a process of demie diffusion accompanying the extension of the Neolithic revolution (Cavalli-Sforza et al. 1994)."
-- Ricaut et al 2008. Cranial Discrete Traits in a Byzantine Popion Hum Bio 80:5 535-64


“..one can identify Negroid (Ethiopic or Bushmanoid?) traits of nose and prognathism appearing in Natufian latest hunters (McCown, 1939) and in Anatolian and Macedonian first farmers, probably from Nubia via the unknown predecesors of the Badarians and Tasians....". (Angel 1972. Biological Relations of Egyptians and Eastern Mediterranean Populations.. JrnHumEvo 1:1, p307


"Analyses showed that the Natufian dentiton was much like the more recent Southern Levant people as well as Holocene Nubians.” -- Turner (2008) "A dental anthropological hypothesis relating to the ethnogenesis. p. 21-25.

Read more: egyptsearchreloaded.proboards.com/thread/1411/who-natufian-pioneers-neolithic#ixzz4072lzWVf

And what do a late date Southern Laventine looked like by historical times??



Now If I wanted to I could have just leave the above as is and give the impression that was all there is to historical levantinss which would be lying by omission as you attempted to do.



Here is a more well rounded view of late Levantine era.

Btw that's the Phoenicians before they left to found Kharthadass.


These are all North Africans most of the signet rings were discovered in colonies in Europe .

“When tired of each noblest matron, (Gildo) hands her over to the Moors. These Sidonian mothers, married in Carthage City, must needs be mate with barbarians. He thrusts upon me an Ethiopian son-in-law. This hideous hybrid affects the cradle.”

Claudian.

Read more: egyptsearchreloaded.proboards.com/thread/25#ixzz407GXCOo6

[thamm1]

BS...for one all your pics you posted didn't come through which are unreliable. And two I posted pics of ancient Libyan's who are direct descendants of North African and they are all white.

[thamm1]

And like I said earlier E1b1b originated North Africa with white and Arab people that's a fact. Why do you think when you go to North Africa you see mostly white and Arab people? Why? Indigenous.

[Tukuler al~Takruri]

Those are not Carthaginians nor did Djehuti
post them. Like I told him when he first
misrepresented them, those ladies who are
season avatars are Algerian, Timgad Numidia ns
to be precise.



See ES thread Mechta or the Mechta-Afalou pg2.

www.egyptsearch.com/forums/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=8;t=003435;p=2#000084

[thamm1]

You people misrepresent everything about North Africa and the Moors because the indigenous population and the Moors have always been white. The people there now are same that has been there for thousands of years.

[Tukuler al~Takruri]

I have nothing to say to you.
As I waste not my time on
the wilfully ignorant.