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Post by truthteacher2007 on Dec 21, 2014 2:11:55 GMT -5
The article brought out many informant facts, but I'd like to caustion that in our effrots to make sure Anceint Egypt is not white washed, we not make the mistake to white wash Modern Egypt. Contrary to what many believe and what was implied in the article, Egypt is NOT a white country by any stretch of the imagination. While it it true that years of mixing and migration due to colonization have altered the phenotypic landscap of Egypt, there was no"replacement", or "migration" of population from Egypt. All that happened is that there was an addition to the native diversity was already there. Therefore, the claim that the ancient physical types are no long visible in Egypt or that they are only found in Southern Egypt is not true. They are alive and well and living all of=ver Egypt, even in the much mixed northern cities and towns of the Delta. On my very first trip to Egypt in 1988, I was one of 3 people of African descent in the group. My friend and I hung out together a lot, ('cause the other chick was bat shit crazy). this particular day we stopped at Dr Regab's papyrus shop. We had wandered off from the group and were looking around the store when an Egyptian lady quietly approached the two of us. "Did you go to Luxor to see our culture?" She made it quite emphatic that she was including the two of US in here statement "OUR", as she grabbed our arms and pointed to our skin. "It is very important for YOU to see and understand what we, Our people did. They try to ignore us, but we will never forget, we are STILL here, we never left. You must know this and tell our people back in the West when you go home. Do you understand? This is very important. I assumed she was Nubian, so I asked her. Are you Nubian? "No, I'm from here, pointing to the ground. Yes I know, but are you from Luxor? No, I'm from right here, Cairo. I'm not from the south, I'm from right here, this time pinting with both hands. She once again admonished us to never forget that Egypt was a civilization created by people who were dark skinned just like us and how important it was that we never forget that. Over the years I have made the mistake of assuming that people I met were either Nubians or southerners, based on their skin color. Some of the blackest Egyptians I know are from Northern Egypt. Even many of the ones I know who have a sterotypical "Arab" look, often have brothers and sisters, cousins and relatives who look East African. By and large, if you had to compare the average Egyptian, regardless of color to another population, it would be Afro Brazilians or Dominicans. In other words, despite thousands of years of mixing and migration, the African stamp is still visible. Let me put it this way, the overwhelming majority of Egyotians today would have been riding the back of the bus back in the day. So while there has been a degree of change, believe me when I tell you, if you pay attention, it is very common to see the faces of the ancient monuments walking around the streets of Alexandria and Cairo today. Even an aquaintance of mine who is Jordanian Arab coomented to me the last time I was in Egypt in Manshiya Alexandria, how out of place he felt. "They all black. I feel like I stick out. They look more like you than they do me." Theat pretty much sums it up in a nut shell! |
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Post by karem on Dec 21, 2014 12:44:59 GMT -5
I noticed this online - www.youtube.com/watch?v=_3U4OzOaz5U. Thought there were some good ideas for who should of been cast in the movie instead but wasn't really convinced about their choice of having Oded Fehr as Moses. The bible informs us that Moses was mistaken for an Egyptian. Therefore it would surely make sense to have someone play him that fits that description. Its really annoying that people think that the idea of a black/mixed race person playing Moses is 'far fetched' or 'extreme' in some way. |
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Post by nebsen on Dec 21, 2014 19:30:24 GMT -5
I noticed this online - www.youtube.com/watch?v=_3U4OzOaz5U. Thought there were some good ideas for who should of been cast in the movie instead but wasn't really convinced about their choice of having Oded Fehr as Moses. The bible informs us that Moses was mistaken for an Egyptian. Therefore it would surely make sense to have someone play him that fits that description. Its really annoying that people think that the idea of a black/mixed race person playing Moses is 'far fetched' or 'extreme' in some way. Very interesting cast that this video provides as an alternative, compared to what Scott chose . I'm not familiar with the Middle eastern looking actors, but I feel is a much better visuals than what Scott again choose. This looks like the cast for a future film about ancient Egypt & the Levant ! Their are other themes & historical stories, that could be made into a wonderful historical films , other than a strictly biblical tale from the bible." The Rescue Of Jerusalem "by Henry T. Abuin, I believe would be a knock out stunner as a film, with the right director, actors/cast, & financing . Mr Abuin has also written a book for young people esp. Black boys & of color; called, " The Rise Of The Golden Cobra " that I could see turned into a film. I sense that the tide has turned, with what people are willing to put up with, around ancient Egypt & Africa as a whole in the 21Century . Exodus: Gods & Kings, was the straw that broke the camel's back, " And Their Is No Turning Back Now" ! |
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Post by kaskata on Dec 21, 2014 21:06:18 GMT -5
Hollywood is not done distorting African history. There is another movie being made called the gods of Egypt. Guess what studio is producing the movie? Yep Fox studios. The tide is definitely turning. Even Europeans (at least the young ones) are getting tired of the same old nonsense. All the recent movies that have been whitewashed have not done well, for example, the prince of Persia or the last air bender.
The Sony hack has shown that old Hollywood habits have changed little.
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Post by nebsen on Dec 21, 2014 22:29:49 GMT -5
Hollywood is not done distorting African history. There is another movie being made called the gods of Egypt. Guess what studio is producing the movie? Yep Fox studios. The tide is definitely turning. Even Europeans (at least the young ones) are getting tired of the same old nonsense. All the recent movies that have been whitewashed have not done well, for example, the prince of Persia or the last air bender. The Sony hack has shown that old Hollywood habits have changed little. Yes, I see. I just goggled" Gods Of Egypt" & it's due 2015; it sounds more like some fantasy involving the Gods of ancient Egypt, one more poor attempt by Hollywood to appropriate all things of ancient Egypt. But like you stated even the younger white audiences are not that intrigued with all these white washed films about ancient Egypt. Something really big, & different, I'm sensing people are ready for . I hope, if a film in the near future is made with a cast of people of African descent, & others is made about" Egypt, " they break with all the Greek words like" Egypt "& use Khemt- Kemet instead . let white supremacy Hollywood, have the Greek version of ancient Egypt, & give the us the people, the Metu Neter ,it would be a paradigm shift & a real break from the past ! |
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Post by MorolongDithabeng on Dec 22, 2014 7:31:54 GMT -5
Look at that guy and the young lady on the far right, something in them just do not agree with what is being portrayed. If one was to put words to their expressions it would be something like; "Why do you keep doing this to us? Why? " Just study the two characters and you will fill their discontentment. This for me is a sign that the Zulu in us black people is gradually being awakened and we will see through all their lies.  |
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Post by anansi on Dec 22, 2014 8:26:34 GMT -5
Look at that guy and the young lady on the far right, something in them just do not agree with what is being portrayed. If one was to put words to their expressions it would be something like; "Why do you keep doing this to us? Why? " Just study the two characters and you will fill their discontentment. This for me is a sign that the Zulu in us black people is gradually being awakened and we will see through all their lies. |
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Post by MorolongDithabeng on Dec 22, 2014 8:49:04 GMT -5
I got a call recently from Charles Wood who wanted to introduce me to Film Investment, documentaries to be specific. As you all know documentaries are the domain where most opinions that influence Hollywood Movies are formed. The returns are very promising but my uBuntu does not allow me to support an industry that purports lies. I will gladly support any course that is willing to consider the tremendous efforts put by both the Egyptsearch and Egyptserchreloaded communities and other similar styled forums. If Charles considers my advice and creates an invest opportunity in Documentaries that speaks of our True Ancient past, I have this crazy idea that its production and filming could be made possible by a joint effort from both communities through an investment account. This definitely won't happen over night but if members and guests are made aware of this initiative we might finally have a couple of documentaries running in the next 5 years. Wikipedia rely's on donations to grow and every once in a while it sends or post pledges for donations, I'm thinking the same fund-raising model could be adopted.
Invest in Documentaries 5 Step guideHow does it work? |
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Post by karem on Dec 22, 2014 11:23:47 GMT -5
Look at that guy and the young lady on the far right, something in them just do not agree with what is being portrayed. If one was to put words to their expressions it would be something like; "Why do you keep doing this to us? Why? " Just study the two characters and you will fill their discontentment. This for me is a sign that the Zulu in us black people is gradually being awakened and we will see through all their lies. That actress does look kind of baffled/annoyed. Can you school me on the link between Zulu's and AE ? |
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Post by nebsen on Dec 22, 2014 17:40:38 GMT -5
www.annickpress.com/Rise-of-the-Golden-CobraThe Rise Of The Golden Cobra, by Henry T. Aubin would make a powerful film , even though it was written for young people, it could also be tweeked for a more mature audience. Attachments:
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Post by MorolongDithabeng on Dec 24, 2014 2:31:25 GMT -5
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Post by truthteacher2007 on Dec 26, 2014 11:22:53 GMT -5
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Post by nebsen on Dec 26, 2014 18:10:01 GMT -5
Just saw this on BBC World News. It seems this picture is pissing off a number of folks; for the government of Egypt, they site inaccuracies, one being that the Jews( Hebrews) did not build the pyramids of ancient Egypt. So why now ? Their have been other films such as " The Ten Commandments" in 1956 with such inaccuracies, did they ban this film & others ?. So this make me wonder, if a film about ancient Egypt in the future was made with a cast mostly of persons of African descent in leading roles, would they ban such a film, because of so called historical inaccuracies ? ? |
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Post by kaskata on Dec 26, 2014 22:56:17 GMT -5
"So this make me wonder, if a film about ancient Egypt in the future was made with a cast mostly of persons of African descent in leading roles, would they ban such a film, because of so called historical inaccuracies." I am going to make a prediction. By the time such a movie is release, it's when Ancient Egypt would be viewed in it's African context by the masses.
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Post by nebsen on Dec 27, 2014 2:24:50 GMT -5
"So this make me wonder, if a film about ancient Egypt in the future was made with a cast mostly of persons of African descent in leading roles, would they ban such a film, because of so called historical inaccuracies." I am going to make a prediction. By the time such a movie is release, it's when Ancient Egypt would be viewed in it's African context by the masses. Kaskata, could you be a little more specific . What time frame do you see, 5,10, 15, 20 years into the future ; what masses are you referring too ? What country would be the first to make such a film, America , Britain, a country in Africa etc ? |
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